Aggies edge past Longhorns in Texas popularity contest.

A recent survey by Public Policy Polling found 22 percent of Texas voters identified themselves as Aggies sports fans, compared with 20 percent who declared their loyalty for the Longhorns.

http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/sports...ge-sports/

I think the bigger surprise is Houston and Baylor being more popular than Tech...

(12-29-2013 07:37 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I think the bigger surprise is Houston and Baylor being more popular than Tech...

This thread is about to get ugly.

(12-29-2013 07:35 PM)Lurker Above Wrote:  Aggies edge past Longhorns in Texas popularity contest.

A recent survey by Public Policy Polling found 22 percent of Texas voters identified themselves as Aggies sports fans, compared with 20 percent who declared their loyalty for the Longhorns.

http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/sports...ge-sports/

For pete's sake people, its a survey of 500 voters. Not exactly the best methodology.

Better one to compare UT vs A&M- Facebook pre-season top 25 county leaders:
http://mashable.com/2013/08/30/college-f...ebook-map/



That tells a much more statistically sound story than 500 random schmucks.

(12-29-2013 07:37 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I think the bigger surprise is Houston and Baylor being more popular than Tech...

Yeah totally believable.

Lets see, Baylor is going from a 50K seat stadium to a 45K stadium. UH hasn't averaged 40K since the late 70's and capped capacity at 40K for their new stadium. Meanwhile, Tech has plans to expand to 70K in the very near future.

Let me know when either of those schools need a 60K seat stadium and then we can talk about popularity in the state of Texas. As it sits right now, Texas is 1st, A&M 2nd and Tech 3rd.

(12-29-2013 07:44 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-29-2013 07:37 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I think the bigger surprise is Houston and Baylor being more popular than Tech...

This thread is about to get ugly.

It is a troll thread and should be moved.

It isn't a troll thread and the number of self proclaimed fans has nothing to do with stadium size.

I'd say this really has most to do with the amount of perceived success each team etc has. Texas has fallen on harder times and has slipped while A&M has done much better and created excitement. The same can be said for Baylor and Houston relative to Tech.

We have lots of fans

UT has lots of fans.

The unaligned general public waxes and wanes as fortunes climb and fall. They supported A&M in the 80s/90s and the UT the last 15 years. Texans love having an SEC to root for now so it's not surprising our popularity is picking up again.

All one has to do is look at the TV ratings from this year.

(12-29-2013 08:03 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It isn't a troll thread and the number of self proclaimed fans has nothing to do with stadium size.

I'd say this really has most to do with the amount of perceived success each team etc has. Texas has fallen on harder times and has slipped while A&M has done much better and created excitement. The same can be said for Baylor and Houston relative to Tech.

If their so popular, where the heck are they on game day?

2013 2,012 2,011 2,010 Avg
Texas 98,976 100,884 100,524 100,654 100,260
A&M 87,125 87,014 87,183 82,477 85,950
Tech 57,933 57,209 55,347 57,108 56,899
Baylor 45,948 41,494 41,368 40,043 42,213
TCU 43,598 46,047 33,686 42,466 41,449
UTSA 29,214 29,214
Houston 24,256 27,247 31,731 31,728 28,741
UTEP 28,375 29,374 26,498 29,350 28,399
SMU 18,725 21,292 20,894 26,515 21,857
Rice 18,785 20,325 17,329 25,571 20,503
N. Texas21,030 18,927 18,864 17,718 19,135
Tx State 18,062 18,062

(12-29-2013 08:31 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(12-29-2013 08:03 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It isn't a troll thread and the number of self proclaimed fans has nothing to do with stadium size.

I'd say this really has most to do with the amount of perceived success each team etc has. Texas has fallen on harder times and has slipped while A&M has done much better and created excitement. The same can be said for Baylor and Houston relative to Tech.

If their so popular, where the heck are they on game day?

2013 2,012 2,011 2,010 Avg
Texas 98,976 100,884 100,524 100,654 100,260
A&M 87,125 87,014 87,183 82,477 85,950
Tech 57,933 57,209 55,347 57,108 56,899
Baylor 45,948 41,494 41,368 40,043 42,213
TCU 43,598 46,047 33,686 42,466 41,449
UTSA 29,214 29,214
Houston 24,256 27,247 31,731 31,728 28,741
UTEP 28,375 29,374 26,498 29,350 28,399
SMU 18,725 21,292 20,894 26,515 21,857
Rice 18,785 20,325 17,329 25,571 20,503
N. Texas21,030 18,927 18,864 17,718 19,135
Tx State 18,062 18,062

It's irrelevant to the question of which school does some random person claim to be a fan of.

Top 50 TV games according to the Houston Chronicle since 2008. Texas and Texas Tech will be fine especially when both of us get back to our 08 & 09 levels. The poll is a joke especially when you look at attendance and TV ratings.

09.17.2013 Bama-A&M CBS 17.3
2008 UT-Tech ABC 16.2
2009 UT-Neb ABC 15.7
2012-13 A&M-OU FOX 14.9 Cotton
2009 UT-A&M ESPN 13.8
2009 Flor-Ala CBS 12.3
2008 Tech-OU ABC 11.6
2008 UT-OU ABC 10.9
2009 Tech-UT ABC 10.9
2009 UT-OU ABC 10.8
2011 UH-USM ABC 10.6
2008 OSU-UT ABC 10.2
2012 A&M-Alabama CBS 9.6
2011 OU-UT ABC 9.5
2008 OSU-Tech ABC 9.4
2008 OU-OSU ABC 9.3
2008 Flor-Ala CBS 9.1
2009 KU-UT ABC 9
2009 UT-OSU ABC 8.9
2011 OSU-A&M ABC 8.4
2011 UT-Bay ABC 8.2
2012 Ala-Geor CBS 7.93
2011 UT-A&M ESPN 7.9
2009 Tech-Hou ESPN2 7.9
2009 UT-Mizz ABC 7.7
2011 OSU-UT ABC 7.7
2008 Mizz-OU ABC 7.6
11.09.2013 Miss St-Tx A&M CBS 7.5
11.09.2013 LSU-Alabama CBS 7.5
2011 LSU-GA CBS 7.4
2011 UT-UCLA ABC 7.3
2011 Okla-Flor St ABC 7.3
2012 Flo-A&M ESPN 7.1
10.14.2013 Texas-OU ABC 7.1
2012 UT-Oreg St ESPN 6.8 Alamo
2009 Flor-LSU CBS 6.8
2009 Tech-Neb ABC 6.7
2012 Ala-LSU CBS 6.7
2012 A&M-LSU ESPN 6.7
10.14.2013 A&M-Ole Miss ESPN 6.7
2011 OU-OSU ABC 6.6
2009 Col-UT ESPN 6.6
2009 LSU-Ala CBS 6.3
2012 Tex-Okla ABC 6.2
2012 Tex-Okla St Fox 6.2
2012 UT-K-State ABC 6.11
2008 Ala-LSU CBS 6.1
2013 K-State-Texas ABC 6.1
2012 ND-USC ABC 6
2011 Ore-LSU ABC 5.8

This year's ratings

Quote:
UT-BYU ............. 0.8 ..... 1,290,000
UT-Ole Miss ........ 0.1 ..... 130,000 (LHN)
UT-ISU ............. 1.5 ..... 2,400,000
UT-OU .............. 3.0, .... 4,710,000
UT-TCU ... ……..0.4, .... 676,000
UT-KU .............. 0.1 ..... 130,000 (LHN)
UT-WVU ............. 1.5 ..... 2,650,000
UT-OSU ............. 1.4 ..... 2,190,000
UT-Tech ............ 0.7 ..... 1,050,000

A&M-Rice ........... 2.7 ..... 4,200,000
A&M-'Bama .......... 8.5 ... 13,590,000
A&M-SMU ............ 0.5 ..... 809,000
A&M-Arky ........... 1.7 ..... 2,760,000
A&M-Ole Miss ....... 3.2 ..... 5,110,000
A&M-Auburn ......... 4.2 ..... 6,730,000
A&M-UTEP ........... 0.7 ..... 1,120,000
A&M-MSU ............ 2.9 ..... 4,530,000
A&M-LSU ............ 4.8 ..... 8,140,000
A&M-Mizzou ......... 3.6 ..... 5,730,000

Average share:

A&M ...... 3.28
UT ...... 1.06

Total viewers:

A&M ...... 52,719,000
UT ...... 15,181,000

(12-29-2013 08:57 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  Top 50 TV games according to the Houston Chronicle since 2008. Texas and Texas Tech will be fine especially when both of us get back to our 08 & 09 levels. The poll is a joke especially when you look at attendance and TV ratings.

09.17.2013 Bama-A&M CBS 17.3
2008 UT-Tech ABC 16.2
2009 UT-Neb ABC 15.7
2012-13 A&M-OU FOX 14.9 Cotton
2009 UT-A&M ESPN 13.8
2009 Flor-Ala CBS 12.3
2008 Tech-OU ABC 11.6
2008 UT-OU ABC 10.9
2009 Tech-UT ABC 10.9
2009 UT-OU ABC 10.8
2011 UH-USM ABC 10.6
2008 OSU-UT ABC 10.2
2012 A&M-Alabama CBS 9.6
2011 OU-UT ABC 9.5
2008 OSU-Tech ABC 9.4
2008 OU-OSU ABC 9.3
2008 Flor-Ala CBS 9.1
2009 KU-UT ABC 9
2009 UT-OSU ABC 8.9
2011 OSU-A&M ABC 8.4
2011 UT-Bay ABC 8.2
2012 Ala-Geor CBS 7.93
2011 UT-A&M ESPN 7.9
2009 Tech-Hou ESPN2 7.9
2009 UT-Mizz ABC 7.7
2011 OSU-UT ABC 7.7
2008 Mizz-OU ABC 7.6
11.09.2013 Miss St-Tx A&M CBS 7.5
11.09.2013 LSU-Alabama CBS 7.5
2011 LSU-GA CBS 7.4
2011 UT-UCLA ABC 7.3
2011 Okla-Flor St ABC 7.3
2012 Flo-A&M ESPN 7.1
10.14.2013 Texas-OU ABC 7.1
2012 UT-Oreg St ESPN 6.8 Alamo
2009 Flor-LSU CBS 6.8
2009 Tech-Neb ABC 6.7
2012 Ala-LSU CBS 6.7
2012 A&M-LSU ESPN 6.7
10.14.2013 A&M-Ole Miss ESPN 6.7
2011 OU-OSU ABC 6.6
2009 Col-UT ESPN 6.6
2009 LSU-Ala CBS 6.3
2012 Tex-Okla ABC 6.2
2012 Tex-Okla St Fox 6.2
2012 UT-K-State ABC 6.11
2008 Ala-LSU CBS 6.1
2013 K-State-Texas ABC 6.1
2012 ND-USC ABC 6
2011 Ore-LSU ABC 5.8

Your data is wrong. It's missing this years Auburn Alabama game which was about a 9.2, the Auburn Texas A&M game which was solidly in the 8 range, and the Auburn Georgia game.

The fact that you chose to go back to 08 and 09 shows the utter decline of the Big 12 since losing 4 key schools.

Times have changed forever for the Big 12. 2008&9 stats are now irrelevant.

Like I said, Tech and UT need to get back to 08 & 09 levels and aggy will once again be 2nd or 3rd fiddle in the state of Texas. The TV ratings show that and once autograph leaves, the hype of the SEC will wear off. Texans still want to see local big Texas teams play each other. After a few years, the newness of a&m in the SEC will mean nothing to Texans.

(12-29-2013 09:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-29-2013 08:57 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  Top 50 TV games according to the Houston Chronicle since 2008. Texas and Texas Tech will be fine especially when both of us get back to our 08 & 09 levels. The poll is a joke especially when you look at attendance and TV ratings.

09.17.2013 Bama-A&M CBS 17.3
2008 UT-Tech ABC 16.2
2009 UT-Neb ABC 15.7
2012-13 A&M-OU FOX 14.9 Cotton
2009 UT-A&M ESPN 13.8
2009 Flor-Ala CBS 12.3
2008 Tech-OU ABC 11.6
2008 UT-OU ABC 10.9
2009 Tech-UT ABC 10.9
2009 UT-OU ABC 10.8
2011 UH-USM ABC 10.6
2008 OSU-UT ABC 10.2
2012 A&M-Alabama CBS 9.6
2011 OU-UT ABC 9.5
2008 OSU-Tech ABC 9.4
2008 OU-OSU ABC 9.3
2008 Flor-Ala CBS 9.1
2009 KU-UT ABC 9
2009 UT-OSU ABC 8.9
2011 OSU-A&M ABC 8.4
2011 UT-Bay ABC 8.2
2012 Ala-Geor CBS 7.93
2011 UT-A&M ESPN 7.9
2009 Tech-Hou ESPN2 7.9
2009 UT-Mizz ABC 7.7
2011 OSU-UT ABC 7.7
2008 Mizz-OU ABC 7.6
11.09.2013 Miss St-Tx A&M CBS 7.5
11.09.2013 LSU-Alabama CBS 7.5
2011 LSU-GA CBS 7.4
2011 UT-UCLA ABC 7.3
2011 Okla-Flor St ABC 7.3
2012 Flo-A&M ESPN 7.1
10.14.2013 Texas-OU ABC 7.1
2012 UT-Oreg St ESPN 6.8 Alamo
2009 Flor-LSU CBS 6.8
2009 Tech-Neb ABC 6.7
2012 Ala-LSU CBS 6.7
2012 A&M-LSU ESPN 6.7
10.14.2013 A&M-Ole Miss ESPN 6.7
2011 OU-OSU ABC 6.6
2009 Col-UT ESPN 6.6
2009 LSU-Ala CBS 6.3
2012 Tex-Okla ABC 6.2
2012 Tex-Okla St Fox 6.2
2012 UT-K-State ABC 6.11
2008 Ala-LSU CBS 6.1
2013 K-State-Texas ABC 6.1
2012 ND-USC ABC 6
2011 Ore-LSU ABC 5.8

Your data is wrong. It's missing this years Auburn Alabama game which was about a 9.2, the Auburn Texas A&M game which was solidly in the 8 range, and the Auburn Georgia game.

The fact that you chose to go back to 08 and 09 shows the utter decline of the Big 12 since losing 4 key schools.

Times have changed forever for the Big 12. 2008&9 stats are now irrelevant.

Not according to the Houston Chronicle. The Bama-Auburn game drew a 6.6 in Houston. If you look at those ratings, Texas, Texas and Oklahoma still play in the Big 12. Nebraska, Colorado and Mizzou never had high TV ratings in Houston. In fact, until the 2010 season, A&M rarely high TV ratings unless they were playing Texas.

Edited to show the ratings for the Bama-Auburn game in Houston.

http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/2013/...18491101=0

Quote:Saturday – Rockets-Spurs, CSNH, 1.5; Texas A&M-Missouri, ESPN, 6.0; Baylor-TCU, ESPN2, 1.0; Alabama-Auburn, Ch. 11, 6.6; Michigan-Ohio State, Ch. 13, 3.6; Georgia-Georgia Tech, Ch. 13, 1.9; UCLA-USC, Ch. 13, 1.6; Notre Dame-Stanford, Ch. 26, 1.0; Grambling-Southern, Ch. 2, 1.1; Florida State-Florida, ESPN, 2.2; Penn State-Wisconsin, ESPN, 0.4; Duke-North Carolina, ESPN2, 0.3; Clemson-South Carolina, ESPN2, 0.5; New Mexico-Boise State, ESPN2, 0.2; Kansas State-Kansas, FS1, 0.2; Iowa State-West Virginia, FS1, 0.03; Louisiana Tech-UTSA, CSNH, 0.3; North Texas-Tulsa, FSSW, 0.01; West Brom-Newcastle, Ch. 2, 0.6; College Football GameDay, ESPN, 1.4; College Football Special, Ch. 11, 0.8; College Football Today, Ch. 11, 1.3; College Football Special, Ch. 26, 0.1

(12-29-2013 07:37 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I think the bigger surprise is Houston and Baylor being more popular than Tech...

I was thinking the same thing, it's about to turn into a total scorched earth effort by the tech fan.

Quote:Next in line was the University of Houston (10 percent), followed by Baylor University (8 percent), Texas Tech University (5 percent), Texas Christian University (4 percent), University of Texas at El Paso (3 percent) and Southern Methodist University (2 percent).

UH, BU and TCU are more popular than that juggernaut from the Buddy Holly Plateau?.

I jest, but it will be entertaining to say the least.

Need to grab the popcorn, this is going to get good!

Damn, the insecurity and defensive position by jml is already in full swing! Meaningless TV ratings and all!

Give me a minute please, I need to grab a beer and my popcorn only has 30 seconds to go.

(12-29-2013 09:19 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  

(12-29-2013 09:11 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-29-2013 08:57 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  Top 50 TV games according to the Houston Chronicle since 2008. Texas and Texas Tech will be fine especially when both of us get back to our 08 & 09 levels. The poll is a joke especially when you look at attendance and TV ratings.

09.17.2013 Bama-A&M CBS 17.3
2008 UT-Tech ABC 16.2
2009 UT-Neb ABC 15.7
2012-13 A&M-OU FOX 14.9 Cotton
2009 UT-A&M ESPN 13.8
2009 Flor-Ala CBS 12.3
2008 Tech-OU ABC 11.6
2008 UT-OU ABC 10.9
2009 Tech-UT ABC 10.9
2009 UT-OU ABC 10.8
2011 UH-USM ABC 10.6
2008 OSU-UT ABC 10.2
2012 A&M-Alabama CBS 9.6
2011 OU-UT ABC 9.5
2008 OSU-Tech ABC 9.4
2008 OU-OSU ABC 9.3
2008 Flor-Ala CBS 9.1
2009 KU-UT ABC 9
2009 UT-OSU ABC 8.9
2011 OSU-A&M ABC 8.4
2011 UT-Bay ABC 8.2
2012 Ala-Geor CBS 7.93
2011 UT-A&M ESPN 7.9
2009 Tech-Hou ESPN2 7.9
2009 UT-Mizz ABC 7.7
2011 OSU-UT ABC 7.7
2008 Mizz-OU ABC 7.6
11.09.2013 Miss St-Tx A&M CBS 7.5
11.09.2013 LSU-Alabama CBS 7.5
2011 LSU-GA CBS 7.4
2011 UT-UCLA ABC 7.3
2011 Okla-Flor St ABC 7.3
2012 Flo-A&M ESPN 7.1
10.14.2013 Texas-OU ABC 7.1
2012 UT-Oreg St ESPN 6.8 Alamo
2009 Flor-LSU CBS 6.8
2009 Tech-Neb ABC 6.7
2012 Ala-LSU CBS 6.7
2012 A&M-LSU ESPN 6.7
10.14.2013 A&M-Ole Miss ESPN 6.7
2011 OU-OSU ABC 6.6
2009 Col-UT ESPN 6.6
2009 LSU-Ala CBS 6.3
2012 Tex-Okla ABC 6.2
2012 Tex-Okla St Fox 6.2
2012 UT-K-State ABC 6.11
2008 Ala-LSU CBS 6.1
2013 K-State-Texas ABC 6.1
2012 ND-USC ABC 6
2011 Ore-LSU ABC 5.8

Your data is wrong. It's missing this years Auburn Alabama game which was about a 9.2, the Auburn Texas A&M game which was solidly in the 8 range, and the Auburn Georgia game.

The fact that you chose to go back to 08 and 09 shows the utter decline of the Big 12 since losing 4 key schools.

Times have changed forever for the Big 12. 2008&9 stats are now irrelevant.

Not according to the Houston Chronicle. The Bama-Auburn game drew a 6.6 in Houston. If you look at those ratings, Texas, Texas and Oklahoma still play in the Big 12. Nebraska, Colorado and Mizzou never had high TV ratings in Houston. In fact, until the 2010 season, A&M rarely high TV ratings unless they were playing Texas.

Bama Auburn, Auburn A&M should both be on that list and they are not, even in Houston, which by the way has the largest contingent of Auburn Alumni outside of Alabama besides Atlanta.

(12-29-2013 09:07 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  This year's ratings

Quote:
UT-BYU ............. 0.8 ..... 1,290,000
UT-Ole Miss ........ 0.1 ..... 130,000 (LHN)
UT-ISU ............. 1.5 ..... 2,400,000
UT-OU .............. 3.0, .... 4,710,000
UT-TCU ... ……..0.4, .... 676,000
UT-KU .............. 0.1 ..... 130,000 (LHN)
UT-WVU ............. 1.5 ..... 2,650,000
UT-OSU ............. 1.4 ..... 2,190,000
UT-Tech ............ 0.7 ..... 1,050,000

A&M-Rice ........... 2.7 ..... 4,200,000
A&M-'Bama .......... 8.5 ... 13,590,000
A&M-SMU ............ 0.5 ..... 809,000
A&M-Arky ........... 1.7 ..... 2,760,000
A&M-Ole Miss ....... 3.2 ..... 5,110,000
A&M-Auburn ......... 4.2 ..... 6,730,000
A&M-UTEP ........... 0.7 ..... 1,120,000
A&M-MSU ............ 2.9 ..... 4,530,000
A&M-LSU ............ 4.8 ..... 8,140,000
A&M-Mizzou ......... 3.6 ..... 5,730,000

Average share:

A&M ...... 3.28
UT ...... 1.06

Total viewers:

A&M ...... 52,719,000
UT ...... 15,181,000

Yeah, that move away from Bevo was excellent.

A&M for the win.

(12-29-2013 09:07 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  This year's ratings

Quote:
UT-BYU ............. 0.8 ..... 1,290,000
UT-Ole Miss ........ 0.1 ..... 130,000 (LHN)
UT-ISU ............. 1.5 ..... 2,400,000
UT-OU .............. 3.0, .... 4,710,000
UT-TCU ... ……..0.4, .... 676,000
UT-KU .............. 0.1 ..... 130,000 (LHN)
UT-WVU ............. 1.5 ..... 2,650,000
UT-OSU ............. 1.4 ..... 2,190,000
UT-Tech ............ 0.7 ..... 1,050,000

A&M-Rice ........... 2.7 ..... 4,200,000
A&M-'Bama .......... 8.5 ... 13,590,000
A&M-SMU ............ 0.5 ..... 809,000
A&M-Arky ........... 1.7 ..... 2,760,000
A&M-Ole Miss ....... 3.2 ..... 5,110,000
A&M-Auburn ......... 4.2 ..... 6,730,000
A&M-UTEP ........... 0.7 ..... 1,120,000
A&M-MSU ............ 2.9 ..... 4,530,000
A&M-LSU ............ 4.8 ..... 8,140,000
A&M-Mizzou ......... 3.6 ..... 5,730,000

Average share:

A&M ...... 3.28
UT ...... 1.06

Total viewers:

A&M ...... 52,719,000
UT ...... 15,181,000

Excellent post 10th! If nothing else it proves that the Big 12 spin doctors have a long way to go to put a Texas load of kittie litter on the data gathered by the pollsters and by your data listed above. If I could give you any more rep points I would.