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Morning After
Morning after. Coffee in hand.

Will likely be my family's last bowl game for a while since the new batch of bowls don't look like anything that will interest us. Too bad my 7th one was such a debacle. And no, I do not think this staff is capable of earning a team that G5 access bowl spot in the new system.

Was on the fence about renewing to watch the bad slate of home games at PBS. We will make a roadie and a game if we get UCF or ECU at home. But unless the Big12 announcement takes place this offseason, probably not paying for season tix to watch a poorly prepared play a bunch of cruddy teams. And that was a poorly prepared team again.

Saw the same things yesterday that have had me scratching my head about the guys in golf shirts all season. More pattern than trend. Horrendous competition may have just masked it some. Might be an interesting couple of years in Bearcat Land.

Safe travels on the rainy drive home, folks.
 
12-29-2013 09:05 AM
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RE: Morning After
well that's one take on things Rath...

Here's another one, copy and pasted from another UC site:

While the score didn't favor the Bearcats last night, just wanted to say thanks to the growing number of people who care for and support UC Football. Thanks to everyone who made the trip down to Charlotte. No, I did not read the game thread before making this post biggrin

In what can be described as a 'unique' season in several ways, UC Football saw a 9% increase in attendance (a proud accomplishment in a time where many programs are going the other way) and broke a single game attendance/revenue record. The 1200 Club and Grid saw record support. Oh... and the Nippert Stadium plans became a reality -> http://www.gobearcats.com/nippert

Soon, UC will be sending information in the mail about Paul Brown Stadium in 2014. I'm pretty sure everyone here knows how important next season is for the UC program and the entire department of athletics. UC will need the support of it's season ticket holders and UCATS members more than ever before. Fans will have the ability to personally select their season ticket tier and location. Season ticket holders will also have the ability to sit with your neighbors at Nippert and select seats at the same time. Many more details to come in the next few weeks.

UC has already started selling NEW season ticket deposits for anyone that you know who might want to join the team. If you cannot buy tickets, I would encourage you to join UCATS (Scholarship support). For those of you that are currently not a member of UCATS, Scholarship support starts at $50 annually. It matters.

This is a program that is doing great things on and off the field. 10 wins is now an expectation. Many of our supporters do expect UC to win every game. That's unrealistic, but not a bad thing. It's OK to be frustrated when UC loses, but you can also be proud that your program has set the bar that high moving forward. There are a lot of programs and fans around the country that would love to experience our culture of winning.




Point is, things don't have to be seen as the beginning of the end Rath.
 
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RE: Morning After
We will renew our season tickets again. I get tired of the overreaction to every loss or big win and wish fans of all teams were level headed.

The team started slow in just about game that mattered this season, the coaching staff early in the season did not implement a scheme that put our players in position to win games, this group struggled away from Nippert outside of a two games late in the season, and our special steams were awful.

On the flip side this coaching still won nine games in their first season including two solid wins on the road against Rutgers and Houston, this coaching staff adjusted midway through the season and the offense started to click, this team had enough injuries throughout the year that would have crippled most teams, its difficult to win a bowl game with a makeshift offensive line, and this coaching overcame a tragedy with class and grace.

Overall its fair to be critical of this team but you can't forget the good with the bad. I think Tommy T is a great face of the program; however, I do have my concerns going forward. I feel this team can compete in the American next season but they to improve if they want to be compete with Ohio State and Miami (fl) on the road next season.
 
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RE: Morning After
(12-29-2013 09:14 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  This is a program that is doing great things on and off the field. 10 wins is now an expectation. Many of our supporters do expect UC to win every game. That's unrealistic, but not a bad thing. It's OK to be frustrated when UC loses, but you can also be proud that your program has set the bar that high moving forward. There are a lot of programs and fans around the country that would love to experience our culture of winning.

10 wins is now an expectation? Sorry. I no longer "expect" 10 wins from this team. After this season and last night, going bowling is about the best I expect out of next year. (ie. 6-7 wins).

If you think this is headed in the right direction, I don't know really what to say. The biggest win we had this season was against Houston. Think about that for just a moment. Houston was the only team with a winning record we actually defeated. Is that "the high bar" that is set for "moving forward"?

I know, I know... Some, maybe a lot, of you are going to say "Just another band-wagon fan" or "Just another chicken little saying the sky is falling..." Well, I'll be cheering for the Bearcats next season, win or lose. And maybe I'm just cynical and jaded. But I get a view on the season as much as anyone else. Yes, it was a "transition" year. Yes, it was a season marked by tragedy. Yes, we got beat-up over the course of the season. But that happens to a lot of teams.

Sorry, I just don't see the reason for optimism. Looking at things, I think we demonstrated that UC FB belongs in the AAC, that we're cannon fodder for any team from the middle-or-above of a "Power Conference." We had a window to do something, the window is closed. The question that remains is will the fan base persevere or will we return to the CUSA levels in terms of attendance and support.

But in terms of wins... 10? Nope. I'll be happy with 7 or more going forward.
 
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The game absolutely sucked and the season was positively mediocre. But we'll be there next season hoping things are better. Today I woke up feeling glad this season is over.
 
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(12-29-2013 09:31 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  I'll be happy with 7 or more going forward.

You have to be capable of being happy in order for that to happen.
 
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Hey, we can't win them all and every team falls on their face. That was extremely painful but we have to remember that UC has been, historically, a 6-7 win team with low fan support. It's been just over the past ~7 years that the program and fan interest turned around.

We (fans and alumni) have raised our expectations and, perhaps, overlooked reality. We've come to expect 9+ wins per year and conference championships. We started the year feeling the same, but reality proved otherwise - we were good, just not that good.

If the current coaching staff stays for more than 3 years (I expect they will), I'm confident team performance will improve and we'll be competing for American championships.

And, I do expect an invitation when conferences look to realign again. Overall, I'm bullish on the program and continue to be a fan. 04-cheers
 
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This season was better than 10 years of Rick Minter and 2 of the 3 yers of Mark Dantonio. This was better than BJ 1st year. I won't mention BK because he won he 1st bowl, so that is probably enough to buy season tickets at PBS,even though M Brown is alredy getting too much of my money. Thanks Tommy and crew for a good, entertaining first year and more to come. 02-13-banana
 
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Everything seemed to go UNC's way but we were outcoached as well. I went back to watch the film again and I was really surprised at how well Fedora was at managing the game. Simply an unacceptable effort. Our special teams play was atrocious
 
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Haha GOLFGATE!!!!!!!! This guys a riot.
P5 conference says "Part of showing us you belong is strong fan support."
Cincy fan says "WAHHH! I won't go back until we are in a major conference!!!"
 
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(12-29-2013 10:48 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  Haha GOLFGATE!!!!!!!! This guys a riot.
P5 conference says "Part of showing us you belong is strong fan support."
Cincy fan says "WAHHH! I won't go back until we are in a major conference!!!"

FTW!!!

Please, any fan that looks at the future and says they'll withhold support until the administration does the things they like......GTFOH.

This program doesn't need those type of fans.

I'm a Bearcat fan. I don't care who we play, i watch to see MY team win. If I lived in Cincy I'd go to PBS to watch MY team play and anxiously look fwd to the new Nippert. PBS for a year is just that......PBS for a year.

Something tells me those that continually bish abt the program won't simply go away. Naah.....they'll continue to talk about how they're on the fence with respect to supporting the program. Recruiting sucks (damn the evidence), how we're just about on MAC level status, TT is more concerned with tee time, he didn't wear a headset, yadda yadda yadda.


rinse and repeat.


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As long as I can afford it and I live close, I will always be a season ticket holder. It's only 6 games, a fairly small time commitment for most. If you're a fan, why not do it?
 
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(12-29-2013 11:15 AM)marcuscan Wrote:  
(12-29-2013 10:48 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  Haha GOLFGATE!!!!!!!! This guys a riot.
P5 conference says "Part of showing us you belong is strong fan support."
Cincy fan says "WAHHH! I won't go back until we are in a major conference!!!"

FTW!!!

Please, any fan that looks at the future and says they'll withhold support until the administration does the things they like......GTFOH.

This program doesn't need those type of fans.

I'm a Bearcat fan. I don't care who we play, i watch to see MY team win. If I lived in Cincy I'd go to PBS to watch MY team play and anxiously look fwd to the new Nippert. PBS for a year is just that......PBS for a year.

Something tells me those that continually bish abt the program won't simply go away. Naah.....they'll continue to talk about how they're on the fence with respect to supporting the program. Recruiting sucks (damn the evidence), how we're just about on MAC level status, TT is more concerned with tee time, he didn't wear a headset, yadda yadda yadda.


rinse and repeat.


mc

Great post. Most college football teams that fall somewhere between 20 and 60 in the rankings are pretty much a mixed bag. UC was probably a top 40 team this season overall but that probably depends on which game you looked at.
 
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(12-29-2013 09:57 AM)subflea Wrote:  
(12-29-2013 09:31 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  I'll be happy with 7 or more going forward.

You have to be capable of being happy in order for that to happen.

Jeez, Sub... Cut me a little slack here. I said I would be happy with something. 03-lmfao

I get criticized for "expecting too much" and then I get nailed for what... Saying that I'll be happy with 7 wins or more.
 
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If you arent going to come out and support the team next year, than don't bother calling yourself a UC fan. They **** the bed against UNC, something that happens to good teams, but really played well as the season went on and showed that there is a hell of a lot of potential within the program. There were plenty of reasons this year to believe the Bearcats will be top of the G5 year in and year out.

If any of you came out and supported UC this year, thank you. I had a fun year and will always remember the heartbreak in that UL game. But next year, the team needs you. We had a good showing at the Belk Bowl and i want to see that continued along with the rise in attendance at home games. If that happens, along with Nippert's expansion, i promise you we will be in the Power 5 before you know it. But, if you actually are going to throw all that away because a team went 9-4 with a new coach, than don't call yourself a UC fan. You aren't. No matter how much you've convinced yourself that you are.

Go Bearcats
 
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BJ. Sub ...I pm you guys heard some interesting scoop after the game
 
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(12-29-2013 09:31 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  If you think this is headed in the right direction, I don't know really what to say. The biggest win we had this season was against Houston. Think about that for just a moment. Houston was the only team with a winning record we actually defeated. Is that "the high bar" that is set for "moving forward"?


this is ridiculous. Houston is the 3rd best team we played this year. so what do you expect? even if we beat Illinois or USF as we should have and lost to Louisville and UNC, we would have finished 11-2, with our best win being over...Houston. Houston's good. lets not dismiss that game. We only defeated one team with a winning record because we only played 3!!!! and if we won last night we would have only played 2!

next year we are at OSU, at The U and play UCF somewhere. plus bowl teams like Houston, ECU, Tulane. So our schedule will be much tougher and provides a chance for real wins and more natl attention.

Butch's first season, our schedule was insane. this was a good way for the new staff to come in and get acclimated, with such a weak schedule. after a full season and now off-season I fully expect players and coaches to be on same page and for everything to go better next year
 
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I had 2 season tickets for 2 years, and a single season ticket for the last 2 years. I've not missed a home game in that time and went to the Orange and Sugar Bowls.

Partly for financial reasons, I'm probably not going to renew my season ticket, but I suspect I'll wind up going to most of the home games next year. I will get a mini plan and a single ticket for other games.

The bowl game was disappointing. We have become spoiled in expecting 10 win seasons. UC certainly had the ability to do that this year but came up short. Let's see if any coaching staff or philosophy adjustments will be made.
 
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All this did was confirm that Butch Jones was one of the most inept and weak recruiter as was his MO when he got to UC...First "car wash" he went through up in Bristol was all telling. He fumed over the pundits asking over and over about winning with BK's recruits....Now we are entering the Jones era, and you'll notice Tubbs has never thrown any of his kids under the bus ala BJ.
Dan Enos went through the same crap after he followed jones at CMU..Total rebuild.
Butchers famous quote of his inherited team after going 4-8 the first year and taking an absolute wrecking ball to the program "I was left a empty bare cupboard"
What a douche ! He only had about 10 guys who played ,or are still playing in the NFL!
Tubbs has to get the Johnnies and joes for his scheme, and he'll bring UC back to where it should be for a great debut at the rebuilt NIP.
And for what it's worth Gran hopefully learned a lot from this season, because there's room to grow..His first year as O Cord was sub- par.
 
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(12-29-2013 12:06 PM)bearcat14 Wrote:  BJ. Sub ...I pm you guys heard some interesting scoop after the game

Don't leave the rest of us hanging.....05-nono
 
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