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RE: Defining Choke vs a Loss
(12-27-2013 11:21 PM)DoubleHuskie84 Wrote: (12-27-2013 05:18 PM)7 Wrote: They've ran that play 1000 times the last two years and it works 95% of the time.
Wrong. Go back and count 'em.
No thanks. That's been the most effective play in the playbook the last two years.
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RE: Defining Choke vs a Loss
(12-28-2013 09:34 PM)7 Wrote: (12-27-2013 11:21 PM)DoubleHuskie84 Wrote: (12-27-2013 05:18 PM)7 Wrote: They've ran that play 1000 times the last two years and it works 95% of the time.
Wrong. Go back and count 'em.
No thanks. That's been the most effective play in the playbook the last two years.
Correct.
It is also correct that in the MACC & even more so vs. USU, we were either unprepared or unwilling to make adjustments to our play calling when confronted with a defensive scheme to shut that play down.
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RE: Defining Choke vs a Loss
(12-28-2013 10:42 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote: (12-28-2013 09:34 PM)7 Wrote: (12-27-2013 11:21 PM)DoubleHuskie84 Wrote: (12-27-2013 05:18 PM)7 Wrote: They've ran that play 1000 times the last two years and it works 95% of the time.
Wrong. Go back and count 'em.
No thanks. That's been the most effective play in the playbook the last two years.
Correct.
It is also correct that in the MACC & even more so vs. USU, we were either unprepared or unwilling to make adjustments to our play calling when confronted with a defensive scheme to shut that play down.
So as an outside observer, I keep reading all these comments about the play calling by NIU, what sort of plays would you have liked to see the Huskies call?
I only ask because I'm not sure how the USU defense can be successfully attacked over the course of an entire game. At the first of the year I would have said go deep and attack the safeties but as the season wore on that became less of an option for opposing QB's. The LB's are the strength of the Aggie D (all of them made the all-league 1st or 2nd team) and are strong enough to stop the run up the middle, fast enough to contain the edges and drop back in coverage, and can blitz from all sides. The only teams that had remote success against us were Boise St. and BYU and I would chalk that up to team shock over losing Keeton and all the other starters in a matter of 2 weeks.
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12-29-2013 01:07 AM |
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RE: Defining Choke vs a Loss
The playcalling should have been adjusted so that every play works at all times. Duh.
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RE: Defining Choke vs a Loss
(12-29-2013 03:09 AM)7 Wrote: The playcalling should have been adjusted so that every play works at all times. Duh.
Let me tell you something, I've won several Superbowls in Madden and several national championships in the NCAA series, I KNOW playcalling.
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RE: Defining Choke vs a Loss
(12-29-2013 01:49 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote: (12-29-2013 03:09 AM)7 Wrote: The playcalling should have been adjusted so that every play works at all times. Duh.
Let me tell you something, I've won several Superbowls in Madden and several national championships in the NCAA series, I KNOW playcalling.
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RE: Defining Choke vs a Loss
(12-29-2013 05:50 PM)DogTracks Wrote: (12-29-2013 01:49 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote: (12-29-2013 03:09 AM)7 Wrote: The playcalling should have been adjusted so that every play works at all times. Duh.
Let me tell you something, I've won several Superbowls in Madden and several national championships in the NCAA series, I KNOW playcalling.
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RE: Defining Choke vs a Loss
(12-29-2013 01:07 AM)Aglicious Wrote: (12-28-2013 10:42 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote: (12-28-2013 09:34 PM)7 Wrote: (12-27-2013 11:21 PM)DoubleHuskie84 Wrote: (12-27-2013 05:18 PM)7 Wrote: They've ran that play 1000 times the last two years and it works 95% of the time.
Wrong. Go back and count 'em.
No thanks. That's been the most effective play in the playbook the last two years.
Correct.
It is also correct that in the MACC & even more so vs. USU, we were either unprepared or unwilling to make adjustments to our play calling when confronted with a defensive scheme to shut that play down.
So as an outside observer, I keep reading all these comments about the play calling by NIU, what sort of plays would you have liked to see the Huskies call?
I only ask because I'm not sure how the USU defense can be successfully attacked over the course of an entire game. At the first of the year I would have said go deep and attack the safeties but as the season wore on that became less of an option for opposing QB's. The LB's are the strength of the Aggie D (all of them made the all-league 1st or 2nd team) and are strong enough to stop the run up the middle, fast enough to contain the edges and drop back in coverage, and can blitz from all sides. The only teams that had remote success against us were Boise St. and BYU and I would chalk that up to team shock over losing Keeton and all the other starters in a matter of 2 weeks.
We're kind of predictable and it worked against 12 teams. but against better defenses, I think you need to change it up. A few more times in the middle of the field with the tight end or slot receiver. I only watched the game once, but it appeared the middle was open. Not to say if we had sent someone there he wouldn't have been covered, but our passing game tends to always be near the sidelines. And a few times you stacked the line and we try to run Lynch or Stingly. And 1 play of Stingly around end is 1 too many. I don't recall 1 of those all season making positive yards. It's a running joke (pun intended) around here. They try it once or twice a game.
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RE: Defining Choke vs a Loss
(12-29-2013 09:30 PM)NIU17 Wrote: (12-29-2013 01:07 AM)Aglicious Wrote: (12-28-2013 10:42 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote: (12-28-2013 09:34 PM)7 Wrote: (12-27-2013 11:21 PM)DoubleHuskie84 Wrote: Wrong. Go back and count 'em.
No thanks. That's been the most effective play in the playbook the last two years.
Correct.
It is also correct that in the MACC & even more so vs. USU, we were either unprepared or unwilling to make adjustments to our play calling when confronted with a defensive scheme to shut that play down.
So as an outside observer, I keep reading all these comments about the play calling by NIU, what sort of plays would you have liked to see the Huskies call?
I only ask because I'm not sure how the USU defense can be successfully attacked over the course of an entire game. At the first of the year I would have said go deep and attack the safeties but as the season wore on that became less of an option for opposing QB's. The LB's are the strength of the Aggie D (all of them made the all-league 1st or 2nd team) and are strong enough to stop the run up the middle, fast enough to contain the edges and drop back in coverage, and can blitz from all sides. The only teams that had remote success against us were Boise St. and BYU and I would chalk that up to team shock over losing Keeton and all the other starters in a matter of 2 weeks.
We're kind of predictable and it worked against 12 teams. but against better defenses, I think you need to change it up. A few more times in the middle of the field with the tight end or slot receiver. I only watched the game once, but it appeared the middle was open. Not to say if we had sent someone there he wouldn't have been covered, but our passing game tends to always be near the sidelines. And a few times you stacked the line and we try to run Lynch or Stingly. And 1 play of Stingly around end is 1 too many. I don't recall 1 of those all season making positive yards. It's a running joke (pun intended) around here. They try it once or twice a game.
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RE: Defining Choke vs a Loss
a "choke" is what arm-chair, never competed, "fans" call a loss they took for granted was a win. A loss is when the other team scores more, most times through no lack of trying like hell to win.
You will rarely, if ever, hear a player or coach (other than right after a frustrating game when the emotions overwhelm the brain) talk of "choking"......most often, a team just gets beaten....
Is it a "choke" when the 111 loss Astros beat the World Champion Red Sox? this is why they play the games--most of us wouldn't watch if we already knew the outcome of games as in if the FAVORITE always won or, worse yet, if OUR favorite always won....
This is sports and why they play the games....athletic contests are not won on paper but on the field where the most vicious complainers likely have never ventured.
(This post was last modified: 12-29-2013 11:57 PM by cagy cager.)
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