(12-27-2013 10:10 AM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  7,

What about your claim that you wouldn't want any other kicker in a big game situation? How did that turn out for ya last night? Looks like your the moron, too.

I said the same thing. He has been money for us until about the Toledo game. I also said we could compete with other teams after the top 5. Guess we are all morons.

(12-27-2013 10:20 AM)7 Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 10:02 AM)timxlydon Wrote:  7, it's fair to say that people calling for the coaching staff to be fired are being morons, but you shouldn't rag on people for getting frustrated when things are clearly going bad and then the team loses. You act like just as much of a moron when you make fun of someone about stupid their comments when the Huskies lose. You're not better than anyone here and lately you've been a real turd. OMG Carey is 12-0 as OC, durrr! Well Carey isn't the OC he is the HC, and he needs to act like it. You can't call out players on TV at halftime. Maybe the team is performing so poorly because Carey's terrible attitude is taking away all their confidence. If you're not worried about next season, that's fine, but don't be an ass to people who are.

Oh, there are absolutely questions about Carey and I have no problem with people being frustrated.

There have been multiple people calling for guys to be fired though. Come on.

What's even more hilarious is that people think it's even an option. NIU can't fire people with multiple years on their contract unless it's an absolute, end-of-the-world, type situation.

Carey does need to get better, yes. It was his first year, and as far as first years go, in totality, it was very good. It did end very badly.

And you're a moron if you think I didn't know I was a moron, moron.

(12-27-2013 10:10 AM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  7,

What about your claim that you wouldn't want any other kicker in a big game situation? How did that turn out for ya last night? Looks like your the moron, too.

+1

(12-27-2013 12:41 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 10:20 AM)7 Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 10:02 AM)timxlydon Wrote:  7, it's fair to say that people calling for the coaching staff to be fired are being morons, but you shouldn't rag on people for getting frustrated when things are clearly going bad and then the team loses. You act like just as much of a moron when you make fun of someone about stupid their comments when the Huskies lose. You're not better than anyone here and lately you've been a real turd. OMG Carey is 12-0 as OC, durrr! Well Carey isn't the OC he is the HC, and he needs to act like it. You can't call out players on TV at halftime. Maybe the team is performing so poorly because Carey's terrible attitude is taking away all their confidence. If you're not worried about next season, that's fine, but don't be an ass to people who are.

Oh, there are absolutely questions about Carey and I have no problem with people being frustrated.

There have been multiple people calling for guys to be fired though. Come on.

What's even more hilarious is that people think it's even an option. NIU can't fire people with multiple years on their contract unless it's an absolute, end-of-the-world, type situation.

Carey does need to get better, yes. It was his first year, and as far as first years go, in totality, it was very good. It did end very badly.

And you're a moron if you think I didn't know I was a moron, moron.

Oh yeah!? Well you're a moron then! Takes one to know one!

(12-27-2013 12:45 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 12:41 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 10:20 AM)7 Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 10:02 AM)timxlydon Wrote:  7, it's fair to say that people calling for the coaching staff to be fired are being morons, but you shouldn't rag on people for getting frustrated when things are clearly going bad and then the team loses. You act like just as much of a moron when you make fun of someone about stupid their comments when the Huskies lose. You're not better than anyone here and lately you've been a real turd. OMG Carey is 12-0 as OC, durrr! Well Carey isn't the OC he is the HC, and he needs to act like it. You can't call out players on TV at halftime. Maybe the team is performing so poorly because Carey's terrible attitude is taking away all their confidence. If you're not worried about next season, that's fine, but don't be an ass to people who are.

Oh, there are absolutely questions about Carey and I have no problem with people being frustrated.

There have been multiple people calling for guys to be fired though. Come on.

What's even more hilarious is that people think it's even an option. NIU can't fire people with multiple years on their contract unless it's an absolute, end-of-the-world, type situation.

Carey does need to get better, yes. It was his first year, and as far as first years go, in totality, it was very good. It did end very badly.

And you're a moron if you think I didn't know I was a moron, moron.

Oh yeah!? Well you're a moron then! Takes one to know one!

I don't even know how to respond to the moron'ed'ness of this post!

(12-27-2013 01:41 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 12:45 PM)thxjoenovak Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 12:41 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 10:20 AM)7 Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 10:02 AM)timxlydon Wrote:  7, it's fair to say that people calling for the coaching staff to be fired are being morons, but you shouldn't rag on people for getting frustrated when things are clearly going bad and then the team loses. You act like just as much of a moron when you make fun of someone about stupid their comments when the Huskies lose. You're not better than anyone here and lately you've been a real turd. OMG Carey is 12-0 as OC, durrr! Well Carey isn't the OC he is the HC, and he needs to act like it. You can't call out players on TV at halftime. Maybe the team is performing so poorly because Carey's terrible attitude is taking away all their confidence. If you're not worried about next season, that's fine, but don't be an ass to people who are.

Oh, there are absolutely questions about Carey and I have no problem with people being frustrated.

There have been multiple people calling for guys to be fired though. Come on.

What's even more hilarious is that people think it's even an option. NIU can't fire people with multiple years on their contract unless it's an absolute, end-of-the-world, type situation.

Carey does need to get better, yes. It was his first year, and as far as first years go, in totality, it was very good. It did end very badly.

And you're a moron if you think I didn't know I was a moron, moron.

Oh yeah!? Well you're a moron then! Takes one to know one!

I don't even know how to respond to the moron'ed'ness of this post!

Which proves you're a moron!

(There's really no good that come from a Thread that starts with: "You people....." )

^ ftw

(12-27-2013 03:13 PM)DogTracks Wrote:  

Such an underrated movie

People always overreact after a bad loss, let alone 2 bad losses in a row. I don't think Carey should be fired, but he needs to make a lot of improvements in decision making and game management before my faith in him will be restored.

More than anything, the biggest lesson to be learned over the past 2 games is that this team wasn't anywhere near being as good as we thought they were. Not even close, in fact. We were small, fairly one dimensional, and we stumbled through an easy schedule and got exposed badly by mediocre teams with the right defensive schemes.

Regardless though, these past few seasons have been like a dream for an NIU fan, as I don't think anyone could have ever expected the success that both Harnish and Lynch, among others, helped bring to the program. Maybe the problem is that along the way most of us really started to expect that success, which is why a 12-2 season seems like such a terrible disappointment.

As disappointed as I am in the outcome of our final two games, I'm probably more disappointed in the fact that over the course of those games the best player in MAC history looked absolutely terrible. I had hoped my final couple opportunities to watch him play (I don't see him ever playing in the NFL) would have been more representative of his career as a whole, but it just didn't turn out that way.

(12-27-2013 09:33 AM)7 Wrote:  They were the first team in the history of the conference to beat two Big Ten teams! You act like they rolled out of bed and it happened.

I mean my God.

BGSU did it back in 2003.


This years NIU team was good, but they tanked. Just like the 2008 BSU team. Last years NIU team was on par with 2009 CMU ranked #23. Yes, I know you hate hearing it. But 12-2 and finished the season ranked. All that really matters is where you finished ranked, not how high you were ranked at one point. BGSU was 11-3 and ranked #23 in 2003.

(12-27-2013 11:42 AM)Huskie George Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 09:33 AM)7 Wrote:  They were the first team in the history of the conference to beat two Big Ten teams! You act like they rolled out of bed and it happened.

I mean my God.

Iowa played "not to loose". And Purdue was one of the worst teams in the country. Doesn't that tell you something about the MAC that we were the first team since 1946 to accomplish beating two Big 10 teams?

Something else to think about. A Penn State coworker mentioned that last year they were 8-4 but couldn't play in a bowl, along with an undefeated Ohio State. That probably impacted Northern getting into a BCS bowl.

Quote:A Penn State coworker mentioned that last year they were 8-4 but couldn't play in a bowl, along with an undefeated Ohio State. That probably impacted Northern getting into a BCS bowl.

It didn't, actually. But certainly could have. Since Wisconsin got to go to the B10 champ game, despite being 3rd behind those two, and surprisingly WON the game (thus got to go to BCS Bowl), that would have allowed NIU just having to be in the Top 16 since Wisconsin was barely breaking Top 25.

However, NIU was ranked right above Louisville who was to win the Big East -- That, along with being over Wisconsin FAIRLY let them in, if NIU's ranking at #15 was a fair ranking.

It's not some wtf exception At All. If #20-something Wisconsin gets to go due to being head of their conference, and #18-20 Louisville gets to go due to being head of their conference, it's a 100% fair assessment to let an even Higher ranked team in the Top 16 get to go due to being head of their conference, regardless of what conference it is.

Quote:BGSU did it back in 2003.

Yes, they did, counting the Motor City Bowl, which should count. And BGSU only lost to Ohio State that year by 7, and their only two other losses were to Miami-OH w/ Rothlesberger -- twice (who I believe came to ~#10 in the country).

2003 was the Year of the MAC. We beat the p!ss out of BCS conferences in OOC play.

Last year, IMO, was seemingly the closest to that, but we bombed our bowls so it's not even comparable, really.

In 2008, we were 0-5 in all bowls.

In 2011, which I would put as #2 Year of the Mac -- we were 4-1 in bowls -- our best bowl appearance and ONLY above .500 bowl record since we were having more than 2 teams going to bowls.

IMO, NIU could have and should have been better. Lynch ran like a banshee against WMU but they were humbled somewhat by that soon to be 1-11 team. Lynch threw worse than WMU's really bad QBs. Against BGSU -- that was obvious, and against a team with the same level of D -- again, failed to prove himself in the latter part of the season.

BGSU? Too skitzo whether it be between one game and another, or within a game. Really odd team.

Ohio? They SHOULD have been much better. Good OOC wins, and their opening collapse against Louisville. Then having a few decent wins in the MAC (good margin of victory over should-be easy wins) but also getting beat by CMU and also collapsing in other games. They should have been a solid, disciplined team playing well each game on both sides.

Toledo? Owens took a turn for the worse, as he didn't improve but got worse later. They should have been more solid. Giving up 40 points to Buffalo in the 2nd half? Wow. Then losing to Akron showed how they went below-par on what they can do.

Kent State? You had Dri Archer. Yes, last year your wins were riding off of turnover creation, much like Buffalo's team several years ago. BUT take that away, and you were still a decent team. Not this year -- you dropped like a freaking rock. Thanks for making the MAC look swell - lol.

WMU? OMG, don't get me started. PJ Fleck, even if not a good coach but a good speaker -- it's not rocket science to be at least an OK coach, even 1st year on a team that has some talent. It's not like he took over UMass. He was taking over a team that would be 5-7 to 7-5 depending on luck, coaching, and development. MAYBE 4-8 at worst if the conference was up to par with all teams (which it was not) + the injuries they had. Instead, PJ has WMU lose to a D1AA bottom feeder -- at HOME, for his home opener. And to not come close to beating teams, except more near the end of the season where they could compete with sleeping teams (or EMU & UMass). Made the MAC look worse.

Miami-OH? NO excuse to be THAT bad. NO Excuse. Wow. Be a 3-9 team, not a pathetic deadbeat of a team.

What has helped the MAC?
- Ball State : Very good, solidity, consistency
- Buffalo : They have their issues of not being up to par, but compared to expectations coming in? Helped the conference them being a decent, competitive team.
- Akron : Moving up from Miami-OH levels to be competitive in many games and to be close to .500!

(12-27-2013 10:10 AM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  7,

What about your claim that you wouldn't want any other kicker in a big game situation? How did that turn out for ya last night? Looks like your the moron, too.

+1. 7 hasn't been taught to state his opinion in a civilized manner yet. Maybe next year.

(12-27-2013 10:45 AM)thehappyhuskie Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 10:10 AM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  7,

What about your claim that you wouldn't want any other kicker in a big game situation? How did that turn out for ya last night? Looks like your the moron, too.

ill agree with you since he's been injured/out. prior to that, the dude was ice. responsible for three NIU wins in clutch situations.

He missed like 3 FGs against Arkansas State. And they weren't long ones. The only reason people don't remember is that it didn't matter. Even in the 2011 MACC he missed an extra point.

(12-27-2013 10:20 AM)7 Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 10:02 AM)timxlydon Wrote:  7, it's fair to say that people calling for the coaching staff to be fired are being morons, but you shouldn't rag on people for getting frustrated when things are clearly going bad and then the team loses. You act like just as much of a moron when you make fun of someone about stupid their comments when the Huskies lose. You're not better than anyone here and lately you've been a real turd. OMG Carey is 12-0 as OC, durrr! Well Carey isn't the OC he is the HC, and he needs to act like it. You can't call out players on TV at halftime. Maybe the team is performing so poorly because Carey's terrible attitude is taking away all their confidence. If you're not worried about next season, that's fine, but don't be an ass to people who are.

Oh, there are absolutely questions about Carey and I have no problem with people being frustrated.

There have been multiple people calling for guys to be fired though. Come on.

7-

I'm with you here to a point. I for one am not even close to calling for Carey's head, not even remotely. I am proud of what our program accomplished this year. I will continue my belief, however, that Carey was a true knee jerk reaction hire, and I cannot say with certainty that it will pan out long term. He doesn't strike me as a head coach. I think in all likelyhood, they could have given the job to most guys on this staff and the results this season would have been very, very similar. I still believe that. Good for Carey that he kept it together, but next year will speak volumes as to this hire. It seems earily similar to the Gregg Brandon hire at BG some years ago. I hope I'm wrong. We did what we were supposed to do this season. I hope we mirror it next year, but we will see. Next year at this time, we will have a clear vision of the direction of this program. Congrats to the Huskies staff and players on a great year. I am a Huskie through good and bad. Always will be, but I am disappointed in the last two games. I feel like we were out prepared both games.

(12-27-2013 08:08 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  +1. 7 hasn't been taught to state his opinion in a civilized manner yet. Maybe next year.

Yep. If he doesn't agree with you, he'll just talk down to you and call you a moron and (try to) make you feel little.

(12-27-2013 09:17 AM)7 Wrote:  The last two games were inexusable and terrible, but if you're calling for the coach to be fired after a 12 win season or the OC to be fired after having the BEST OFFENSE IN THE HISTORY OF THE CONFERENCE, you're a real moron.

And no, there's no other way to put it.

Idiots. All of you.

Zzzzzz this from the same troll that was bashing the team during the game

(12-27-2013 08:08 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(12-27-2013 10:10 AM)MidnightBlueGold Wrote:  7,

What about your claim that you wouldn't want any other kicker in a big game situation? How did that turn out for ya last night? Looks like your the moron, too.

+1. 7 hasn't been taught to state his opinion in a civilized manner yet. Maybe next year.

Sorry. There's no disagreeing in a civilized manner here. If you think anybody on the coaching staff should be fired after going 12-2, you're an idiot.

If that's too strong of a statement for anyone, well, I really don't give a ****.