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(12-26-2013 09:24 AM)Sheldon Cooper Wrote:  Who picked out the Lisa Marie when Elvis purchased it?

The planes are a book within themselves.

Elvis had made a $75,000 deposit on a Boeing 707 "owned" by fugitive financier Robert Vesco. When he learned that the plane could be repossessed he found the Convair 880, which had been used by Delta airlines and had a clean title.

I have never heard any other named mentioned in the selection process. Once it was purchased it was sent to Meacham Airport just north of Fort Worth for Elvis's custom refurbishment. He paid $250K for the jet and another $800K for the refurbishment.

In 75 alone Elvis paid for 5 other jets. He bought a Gulfstream for the Col, who turned it down. He paid $850K for a Jet Commander, He paid almost $900K for the Jet Star, known as Hound Dog II and still at Graceland, and he purchased a Falcon Jet (guess at about $600K) for an investment.

Once he started using the Lisa Marie for tour and pleasure, his dad Vernon entered into an agreement with some other crooks who gave Vernon the angle that they would lease out the jets and pay Vernon monthly, more than what the expenses were. The Presley's never received a penny (other than a couple of bad checks) for this venture and eventually got the FBI involved which became a case known as Operation Fountain Pen. This got nasty and several people have assumed that this led to a Federal Witness Protection status for Elvis and he disappeared and the death was hoaxed. Vernon's first instinct was that Elvis had been killed inside Graceland and an eventual internal investigation determined that security was lax that night.

I had a friend, now deceased, who was a federal court reporter and she told me some 20 years after the fact that Vernon testified via video tape to a grand jury the night before Elvis died. Elvis was never involved in the case although he took great pleasure in reading all of the FBI Files that were available at the time regarding the ongoing investigation of this fraud.
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(12-26-2013 09:47 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  If Elvis dies on August 16, 2017, had he been living in Memphis still (as his primary residence)?

If he is still living in Memphis, where is he living (Desoto county? Collierville? Shelby Forest?)

Elvis was thinking about building a house out in East Memphis. He owned houses and leased houses in Hollywood and Palm Springs and from what he saw in those houses he thought a new house could have a lot of amenities that Graceland didn't. But he would have wanted even more land than Graceland had and that project just never progressed. But Memphis was always going to be home for him.

If Elvis is still living, it would be in Vegas or Hawaii. Anyone who thinks that he might be alive and if you live in Memphis I would keep and eye on Graceland from Christmas Eve through Jan 8.
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(12-25-2013 09:11 PM)21-17 Best Time I Ever Ha Wrote:  Who was the attorney who sued Elvis's estate to fulfill Elvis's promise to Ginger to pay off her mother's mortgage? Who defended Elvis's estate?

Who was Mary Jenkins' attorney when she had a car wreck?

At some point Beecher Smith became one of the main attorneys and it seems like he took care of this, as well as helping Ginger's mom get a divorce!! I don't know who the Alden attorney was. Dewey, Cheatam and Howe?

I don't have any knowledge of Mary's incident. But I met her once and she was a character.
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(12-24-2013 02:39 PM)SayWhat? Wrote:  
(12-24-2013 11:52 AM)presskh Wrote:  
(12-24-2013 11:44 AM)Tiger21 Wrote:  I think the nickname SayWhat? was referring to that E had for Tom Jones regarded a supposed trick that Jones used to make hisself appear more "well endowed" to the woman seated in the front rows of his shows. Had to do with wrapping a sock around his ****. Therefore the nickname sock****.

Rather than actually wrapping a sock around himself, I think Elvis thought he just stuffed a sock down his pants leg to "enhance" his manhood image.

Testimonies abound that TJ didn't need the help of a sock to enhance his package. Elvis had heard the "rumors" about TJ. The story goes that they were going to go to dinner before their shows and Elvis arrived at TJ's suite a bit early. Jones was still in the shower and EP decided to sneak into the bathroom and peeked. TJ caught him in the act and supposedly asked if he saw what he came for? It was at dinner EP gave him the nickname "sock****."

That event did occur but the main reason Elvis was there was to pitch a song to Tom that the Col wouldn't let Elvis record. From Tom's version of this story Elvis sang the song to Tom while he was in the shower, much to Tom's surprise.
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(12-24-2013 11:48 AM)presskh Wrote:  
(12-24-2013 11:36 AM)Tiger21 Wrote:  presskh had the restaurant I was thinking of. The Colorado Mine Company in Glendale CO. Elvis was hosting a party at Graceland in Feb. 75 and Elvis was describing these giant sandwiches called Fools Gold, made of peanut butter and jelly and a pound of bacon spread over a loaf of french bread. One of his guest at the party made the comment that they sure would like to have one. Not one to dissapoint, Elvis had the Lisa Marie fired up and headed toward Denver in no time. In flight, they awoke the owners of the restaurant and ordered a whole bunch of the sandwiches as well as a case of champagne and a case of Perrier. They catered the plane in a private hangar and after a couple hours the party returned to Memphis. The bill from the Mine Co. supposedly topped 16K.

Yum! I believe the recipe was one french loaf, split in half and grilled in butter, a large jar of peanut butter, a large jar of jelly, and a pound of cooked bacon. It was supposed to feed about 8 - I read where Elvis said it was the best sandwich he ever had (ate it all by himself!). I believe the whole trip cost about $50K, including the Lisa Marie flight costs.

I wonder if that is still on the menu? My wife and I split a peanut butter and banana sandwich at Elvis Presley's when it was open on Beale. My wife said her Mom (from just outside Tupelo) used to make those all the time, the exact same way.
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(12-24-2013 08:43 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  
(12-23-2013 09:29 PM)presskh Wrote:  
(12-23-2013 04:07 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  
(12-23-2013 03:59 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Do you think Elvis related revenue will decline now that many of his original fans have passed away or are elderly?

I am surprised at the stamina of the Elvis phenomenon, but it cannot last forever.

No one can explain it. Ironically the only one who dreamed of such potential revenue in the future was the Col. But they kicked him out pretty quick. It is an amazing phenomenon. It is sort of perpetual right now with the royalties from songs, movies and concert DVDs.

Mainly, because no one has come along with the talent, looks, and charisma to replace him. Timberlake, Beiber, and any of the rap artists are all relative flashes-in-the-pan.

Not my favorite but JT is no flash in the pan. But you should be shot and dismembered for mentioning the B kid in an Elvis thread. Shame, shame, shame, shame.

JT is a unique talent and has been around for a while and will go on to have an extraordinary career. But as big as he is, he will never be an icon.
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(12-24-2013 08:35 AM)herkermer Wrote:  Zippin Pippin... Front seat or very last seat?

Usually the first. On more than one occasion he would step out of the car somewhere where the ride would slow down, to freak out those waiting at the bottom when the ride came down the slope and he wasn't there.
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(12-26-2013 09:58 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  
(12-26-2013 09:24 AM)Sheldon Cooper Wrote:  Who picked out the Lisa Marie when Elvis purchased it?

The planes are a book within themselves.

Elvis had made a $75,000 deposit on a Boeing 707 "owned" by fugitive financier Robert Vesco. When he learned that the plane could be repossessed he found the Convair 880, which had been used by Delta airlines and had a clean title.

I have never heard any other named mentioned in the selection process. Once it was purchased it was sent to Meacham Airport just north of Fort Worth for Elvis's custom refurbishment. He paid $250K for the jet and another $800K for the refurbishment.

In 75 alone Elvis paid for 5 other jets. He bought a Gulfstream for the Col, who turned it down. He paid $850K for a Jet Commander, He paid almost $900K for the Jet Star, known as Hound Dog II and still at Graceland, and he purchased a Falcon Jet (guess at about $600K) for an investment.

Once he started using the Lisa Marie for tour and pleasure, his dad Vernon entered into an agreement with some other crooks who gave Vernon the angle that they would lease out the jets and pay Vernon monthly, more than what the expenses were. The Presley's never received a penny (other than a couple of bad checks) for this venture and eventually got the FBI involved which became a case known as Operation Fountain Pen. This got nasty and several people have assumed that this led to a Federal Witness Protection status for Elvis and he disappeared and the death was hoaxed. Vernon's first instinct was that Elvis had been killed inside Graceland and an eventual internal investigation determined that security was lax that night.

I had a friend, now deceased, who was a federal court reporter and she told me some 20 years after the fact that Vernon testified via video tape to a grand jury the night before Elvis died. Elvis was never involved in the case although he took great pleasure in reading all of the FBI Files that were available at the time regarding the ongoing investigation of this fraud.

He sent Joe down to Texas and told him to pick a plane and buy it. Elvis never saw the plane until after he had bought it.
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What other airline has a plane named Lisa Marie?
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(12-26-2013 10:54 AM)Sheldon Cooper Wrote:  
(12-26-2013 09:58 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  
(12-26-2013 09:24 AM)Sheldon Cooper Wrote:  Who picked out the Lisa Marie when Elvis purchased it?

The planes are a book within themselves.

Elvis had made a $75,000 deposit on a Boeing 707 "owned" by fugitive financier Robert Vesco. When he learned that the plane could be repossessed he found the Convair 880, which had been used by Delta airlines and had a clean title.

I have never heard any other named mentioned in the selection process. Once it was purchased it was sent to Meacham Airport just north of Fort Worth for Elvis's custom refurbishment. He paid $250K for the jet and another $800K for the refurbishment.

In 75 alone Elvis paid for 5 other jets. He bought a Gulfstream for the Col, who turned it down. He paid $850K for a Jet Commander, He paid almost $900K for the Jet Star, known as Hound Dog II and still at Graceland, and he purchased a Falcon Jet (guess at about $600K) for an investment.

Once he started using the Lisa Marie for tour and pleasure, his dad Vernon entered into an agreement with some other crooks who gave Vernon the angle that they would lease out the jets and pay Vernon monthly, more than what the expenses were. The Presley's never received a penny (other than a couple of bad checks) for this venture and eventually got the FBI involved which became a case known as Operation Fountain Pen. This got nasty and several people have assumed that this led to a Federal Witness Protection status for Elvis and he disappeared and the death was hoaxed. Vernon's first instinct was that Elvis had been killed inside Graceland and an eventual internal investigation determined that security was lax that night.

I had a friend, now deceased, who was a federal court reporter and she told me some 20 years after the fact that Vernon testified via video tape to a grand jury the night before Elvis died. Elvis was never involved in the case although he took great pleasure in reading all of the FBI Files that were available at the time regarding the ongoing investigation of this fraud.

He sent Joe down to Texas and told him to pick a plane and buy it. Elvis never saw the plane until after he had bought it.

There was a broker involved, they knew to look for something equivalent in size to a 707 and they found the Convair. Elvis went a lot of places that people don't know about or wouldn't be told about in advance. In 55 you couldn't force Elvis inside a plane. In 75 he couldn't think of anything but jets. He wanted his own Air Force One. After renovation started, he visited Meacham about once a month unannounced around his busy schedule, usually taking the one hour flight from Memphis to Fort Worth on the Jet Star with a couple of the guys.

Elvis gave Joe a lot of responsibility and his checkbook. Joe lived a great life that he couldn't have dreamt of. I was a bit disappointed in his books.
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(12-26-2013 10:56 AM)Sheldon Cooper Wrote:  What other airline has a plane named Lisa Marie?

I'm stumped!!
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Was Elvis good friends with Spudnik Monroe, Jackie Fargo, Jerry Jarrett, or Jerry Lawler?
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(12-26-2013 11:37 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  
(12-26-2013 10:56 AM)Sheldon Cooper Wrote:  What other airline has a plane named Lisa Marie?

I'm stumped!!

The very first DC10 Fedex got was named Lisa Marie. Though it was for an employees daughter, not Elvis's daughter.
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Wasn't E supposed to partner with Dr. Nick in the raqcuetball club that used to be across from Halle Stadium? Forget the name.
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(12-26-2013 11:59 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  Was Elvis good friends with Spudnik Monroe, Jackie Fargo, Jerry Jarrett, or Jerry Lawler?

Not that I know of, but Elvis did want to have an exhibition karate/boxing match with Ali in Memphis, but then word got out and all the wrong promoters got involved. They wanted to do it for charity, much like the Aloha concert, but once the Col got wind of it and sniffed the money, couldn't come to terms and it never got off the ground.
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(12-26-2013 12:35 PM)TiggerFan Wrote:  Wasn't E supposed to partner with Dr. Nick in the raqcuetball club that used to be across from Halle Stadium? Forget the name.

Supreme Courts?

Yes Elvis loaned out about $250K for that, the Col insisted that Elvis's name could not be used. They planned a chain of them across the country as the sport was really growing then. But every business estimate made came in way high especially after people found out Elvis was involved, then everything became gold plated. It wasn't a nice business failure between Elvis and Dr Nick.
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(12-26-2013 12:42 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  
(12-26-2013 12:35 PM)TiggerFan Wrote:  Wasn't E supposed to partner with Dr. Nick in the raqcuetball club that used to be across from Halle Stadium? Forget the name.

Supreme Courts?

Yes Elvis loaned out about $250K for that, the Col insisted that Elvis's name could not be used. They planned a chain of them across the country as the sport was really growing then. But every business estimate made came in way high especially after people found out Elvis was involved, then everything became gold plated. It wasn't a nice business failure between Elvis and Dr Nick.

Yep, Supreme Courts. Don Kessinger had a racquetball club on June Rd back then. That is where Red saw me play his oldest son Brent. After that he started taking me out to play at Graceland, usually around 10:30 at night. On school nights! My mother was horrified.
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What was the name of Elvis' karate trainer? He had a karate place in Memphis and his name just won't come to me.
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(12-26-2013 12:53 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  What was the name of Elvis' karate trainer? He had a karate place in Memphis and his name just won't come to me.

Kang Rhee
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(12-26-2013 12:53 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  What was the name of Elvis' karate trainer? He had a karate place in Memphis and his name just won't come to me.

Kang Rhee

oh yea

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