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(12-20-2013 11:11 AM)TerryD Wrote:  2014
Aug. 30 RICE

Heard this on the radio driving into South Bend today. Very glad to see my school playing in my hometown. We'll be there with as many people as Rice lets me buy tickets for.
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(12-20-2013 04:14 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Notre Dame's "Conference" is Navy, USC, Stanford, and 5 ACC games. If the ACC would be willing to add Navy for football only and guarantee that game to Notre Dame every year, we would be up to 6 ACC games.

From what I can gather, Notre Dame is not going to give up annual matchups with USC and Stanford for two additional ACC games

Heck no!
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(12-20-2013 04:40 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  
(12-20-2013 03:44 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-20-2013 03:01 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  
(12-20-2013 02:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  FWIW, I like the "non-ACC" schedule better. 07-coffee3

Says a guy that would take an ACC invite in a heartbeat.

Yes, but what's your point? 03-confused

The point is quit being so negative about a group you want to be a part of.

Not much of a point. 07-coffee3
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RE: ND released its 2014-16 schedules
(12-20-2013 04:14 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Notre Dame's "Conference" is Navy, USC, Stanford, and 5 ACC games. If the ACC would be willing to add Navy for football only and guarantee that game to Notre Dame every year, we would be up to 6 ACC games.

From what I can gather, Notre Dame is not going to give up annual matchups with USC and Stanford for two additional ACC games

Why would they have to?

8 ACC games+ Stanford+ USC + Navy still doesn't fill up their schedule.
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(12-20-2013 09:40 PM)Melky Cabrera Wrote:  
(12-20-2013 04:14 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Notre Dame's "Conference" is Navy, USC, Stanford, and 5 ACC games. If the ACC would be willing to add Navy for football only and guarantee that game to Notre Dame every year, we would be up to 6 ACC games.

From what I can gather, Notre Dame is not going to give up annual matchups with USC and Stanford for two additional ACC games

Why would they have to?

8 ACC games+ Stanford+ USC + Navy still doesn't fill up their schedule.


What about these?

Texas
Oklahoma
Arizona State

BYU


Shamrock Series game

Michigan State

SEC team---Swarbrick says ND is trying to schedule SEC home/home games.
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(12-20-2013 10:26 PM)TerryD Wrote:  BYU

Looks like ND has pushed those games with BYU out to the 12th of Never. None are scheduled. They haven't even assigned a year to any of those maybe-games.
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I can hear the spin in 2016 and 2017 if the lack of more big and B1G programs is killing their tv ratings and ticket demand home and neutral site... It'll be their rallying cry for cutting the number of games, as its negatively impacting their media payout and strength of schedule.
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(12-21-2013 12:25 AM)IceJus10 Wrote:  I can hear the spin in 2016 and 2017 if the lack of more big and B1G programs is killing their tv ratings and ticket demand home and neutral site... It'll be their rallying cry for cutting the number of games, as its negatively impacting their media payout and strength of schedule.

Odds are that half of the ACC games will be against winning teams, should be well attended and the TV ratings should hold up. Add them to a strong non-ACC schedule and I imagine their overall ratings will be as strong or better.
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RE: ND released its 2014-16 schedules
(12-20-2013 04:14 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Notre Dame's "Conference" is Navy, USC, Stanford, and 5 ACC games. If the ACC would be willing to add Navy for football only and guarantee that game to Notre Dame every year, we would be up to 6 ACC games.

From what I can gather, Notre Dame is not going to give up annual matchups with USC and Stanford for two additional ACC games
Notre Dame wants a national schedule. The USC/Stanford pair lets them end their season in California every year. They want to play in Texas. They want to play in the Northeast and in Florida. They want to play in the Southeast.

The ACC gives Notre Dame the "Eastern Exposure" that they crave, but the crux of the bargain is that five games against the ACC (the four that would be necessary for the scheduling freedom ND wants, and one extra to buy Notre Dame's other sports a conference home) still allows Notre Dame to play their "national schedule", while the bargain where the ACC specifies the match-ups and Notre Dame sets the date means that Notre Dame gets the home dates in the second half of the season that are hard for an independent to otherwise arrange.

The upshot is that normally there is space for one Big Ten game on the schedule, and that will normally be either MSU or Purdue because of histories extending well before the 80s.

(12-21-2013 12:25 AM)IceJus10 Wrote:  I can hear the spin in 2016 and 2017 if the lack of more big and B1G programs is killing their tv ratings and ticket demand home and neutral site... It'll be their rallying cry for cutting the number of games, as its negatively impacting their media payout and strength of schedule.
And the ACC can answer ~ "let us set the dates, and we'll let you drop down to four". And Notre Dame will say, "uh, no, we'll keep the present deal, thanks".

The reason there were two conferences willing to make a scheduling deal on these terms with ND is that those five ND games were of sufficient value to the Big12 and ACC to concede setting the dates to Notre Dame. And the reason Notre Dame went with the ACC is because it covers more target areas for their "national schedule" than the Big12 would have done.

Both sides getting things they want from the deal is the foundation for an agreement both sides are going to want to stick to.
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RE: ND released its 2014-16 schedules
(12-21-2013 12:25 AM)IceJus10 Wrote:  I can hear the spin in 2016 and 2017 if the lack of more big and B1G programs is killing their tv ratings and ticket demand home and neutral site... It'll be their rallying cry for cutting the number of games, as its negatively impacting their media payout and strength of schedule.

Complete bullcrap.
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(12-20-2013 11:21 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(12-20-2013 10:26 PM)TerryD Wrote:  BYU

Looks like ND has pushed those games with BYU out to the 12th of Never. None are scheduled. They haven't even assigned a year to any of those maybe-games.

They are going to play those games. They just played two years in a row, the rest of the series will pick up after 2016.
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(12-21-2013 07:35 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(12-20-2013 04:14 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Notre Dame's "Conference" is Navy, USC, Stanford, and 5 ACC games. If the ACC would be willing to add Navy for football only and guarantee that game to Notre Dame every year, we would be up to 6 ACC games.

From what I can gather, Notre Dame is not going to give up annual matchups with USC and Stanford for two additional ACC games
Notre Dame wants a national schedule. The USC/Stanford pair lets them end their season in California every year. They want to play in Texas. They want to play in the Northeast and in Florida. They want to play in the Southeast.

The ACC gives Notre Dame the "Eastern Exposure" that they crave, but the crux of the bargain is that five games against the ACC (the four that would be necessary for the scheduling freedom ND wants, and one extra to buy Notre Dame's other sports a conference home) still allows Notre Dame to play their "national schedule", while the bargain where the ACC specifies the match-ups and Notre Dame sets the date means that Notre Dame gets the home dates in the second half of the season that are hard for an independent to otherwise arrange.

The upshot is that normally there is space for one Big Ten game on the schedule, and that will normally be either MSU or Purdue because of histories extending well before the 80s.

(12-21-2013 12:25 AM)IceJus10 Wrote:  I can hear the spin in 2016 and 2017 if the lack of more big and B1G programs is killing their tv ratings and ticket demand home and neutral site... It'll be their rallying cry for cutting the number of games, as its negatively impacting their media payout and strength of schedule.
And the ACC can answer ~ "let us set the dates, and we'll let you drop down to four". And Notre Dame will say, "uh, no, we'll keep the present deal, thanks".

The reason there were two conferences willing to make a scheduling deal on these terms with ND is that those five ND games were of sufficient value to the Big12 and ACC to concede setting the dates to Notre Dame. And the reason Notre Dame went with the ACC is because it covers more target areas for their "national schedule" than the Big12 would have done.

Both sides getting things they want from the deal is the foundation for an agreement both sides are going to want to stick to.


I am liking the shunning of the Big Ten.

Given that ND is "not a reliable partner", that you "can't trust the priests" and that ND is "chicken" it probably is for the best.

I would like the schedules to go this way going forward, with only an occasional game against Michigan State and Purdue.

If it were me, I would drop Purdue completely but so it goes.......
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(12-20-2013 10:26 PM)TerryD Wrote:  What about these?

Texas
Oklahoma
Arizona State

BYU


Shamrock Series game

Michigan State

SEC team---Swarbrick says ND is trying to schedule SEC home/home games.



Would be sick to see a South Carolina/ND matchup.
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What you saying Gamecock, just come back to the ACC!


(12-21-2013 12:48 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(12-20-2013 10:26 PM)TerryD Wrote:  What about these?

Texas
Oklahoma
Arizona State

BYU


Shamrock Series game

Michigan State

SEC team---Swarbrick says ND is trying to schedule SEC home/home games.



Would be sick to see a South Carolina/ND matchup.
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having a 13 game regular season and navy being #16(in football) could help if notre dame ever had the desire or were somehow forced by playoffs or whatever to join the acc fulltime under a 9 game conference schedule with navy guaranteed every year and then 4 games to schedule : USC, Stanford and 2 rotating opponents.


I know its not happening thru at least 2026 but humor me.

Miami----------------------------------------------Florida State
Notre Dame---------------------------------------Georgia Tech
Boston College------------------------------------Clemson
Pittsburgh-----------------------------------------Louisville
Syracuse------------------------------------------NC State
Virginia--------------------------------------------North Carolina
Virginia Tech--------------------------------------Duke
Navy-----------------------------------------------Wake Forest
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(12-21-2013 12:48 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  
(12-20-2013 10:26 PM)TerryD Wrote:  What about these?

Texas
Oklahoma
Arizona State

BYU


Shamrock Series game

Michigan State

SEC team---Swarbrick says ND is trying to schedule SEC home/home games.



Would be sick to see a South Carolina/ND matchup.

Yep! But only AFTER you re-join.
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BTW, If Notre Dame has a long term interest in keeping Purdue on its schedule, it's not good news for the future prospects of Cincinnati.
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