(12-21-2013 02:08 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(12-21-2013 12:32 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(12-21-2013 12:27 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(12-21-2013 11:36 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(12-21-2013 01:16 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Thanks MGG. That's a classy response from someone who obviously looks at things objectively.

There can be no doubt that to many teams/fans/coaches the Belt has been viewed as nothing more than a transitional conference.....a stepping stone so-to-speak to a better home. If that's its function, then I'd have to say it's done a pretty good job. C-USA has certainly taken its share Belt teams when it desperately needed new members and those teams all seem to hit the ground running here. Both UNT and MTSU played good ball this year and gave C-USA's best all they could handle. WKU will most definitely kick some butt in both football and basketball next year and I wish them all the luck. Again, a testament to the kind of ball (at least football) that I believe is routinely played in the Belt.

The Cajuns will move on some day; don't have a clue where. But one thing's for certain. Despite all its warts, the Belt has been a decent home for the Cajuns in more than one sport and this is one fan who won't be blaming the conference for the deficiencies of the Cajun athletic program.

Your problem is going to be that there is nowhere left to move on to. You guys will likely be stuck in the Sunbelt for quite some time. Next year will be very telling for the Sunbelt. The replacements for UT, FIU, MT, FAU, and WKU will need to be competitive quickly if the Sunbelt is to retain any respect at all as an FBS conference.

I'm probably one of the few Cajun fans who don't view us as being "stuck" in the Sunbelt. I think it's a pretty decent football conference and believe it will improve each year. We caught a lot of crap this year for having 6 bowl-eligible teams but landing only 2 bowl spots. Agree. It sucked. But then last year we had 4 teams in post season play. Next year should be better.

And I agree that there's no where to move on to, other than a conference like C-USA which basically amounts to a lateral move at this point. Personally, I'd be against a lateral move; rather just stay put and help build a name for the conference on the field.

You are correct though, next year will be telling for the Belt, but let's not kid ourselves, it will be telling for C-USA also. The additions of FIU and FAU haven't exactly boosted the conference's image in football and the loss of ECU, Tulsa and a bunch of others over the last couple of years obviously hurt, a lot. Rice will bolt at the first opportunity. A pile of teams sucked this year in C-USA. Most will recover nicely I suspect but there could be some surprises on the downside too. I think it'll be interesting to see how UNT performs next year for instance.

In the Belt, Georgia State sucked all year long but amazingly hung tough in just about every game. AppState shows up with a lot of tradition and fan support as does Georgia Southern from what I've heard. I haven't looked at the rosters of any of these teams but wont be surprised if they if they impact who wins the conference championship.

Sounds good and I agree that ULL is better off in the Belt.

Now please take your name debate comments over to the Belt board.

Whatever you say pendejo. Oh, and good luck to Lolly Polly in your bowl game.

Just clicked the link to check out Marshall's new facilities...I am completely !!! What an awesome look at the future of Marshall athletics...Sure wish UAB had a supportive, progressive governing body like you guys have at Huntington.

#EnjoyTomorrow

(12-21-2013 10:17 AM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(12-20-2013 09:37 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(12-20-2013 07:33 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  

(12-20-2013 06:07 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(12-20-2013 05:31 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  It's you who won't accept it. The name issue of using just Louisiana athletically was fully vetted by the university with the UL System board. It was determined that use of "Louisiana" IS LEGAL and there was nothing prohibiting our use. So, the university began officially branding itself athletically as Louisiana. It still uses its official name in academic matters. LA Tech and every university in the UL System is under the same requirement of having to use the city tag of Ruston, making the correct reference to it LTUR. Why isn't that violation pursued by any of you. By not using University in its name, it can remain branded as LA Tech without "at Ruston". We are doing the same thing. There is no basis to single out Louisiana. We will continue to use it. BTW, ONLY the university is required to use the official name academically. Alumni, fans, and media are not bound by this law. We can use the University of Louisiana reference at all times if we want to and sometimes do. If you think we are giving up our legal right to use Louisiana because a few people on this board disapprove, you are sadly mistaken. It is now who we are and we will use it at all times. If you want to make a name thread out of this every time one of our posters use whatever reference we want to and the university uses Louisiana, go ahead. But, it will be your doing and not ours. It is also puzzling why posters from out of state schools feel a need to chime in on this. It is LEGAL, we ARE using, and we will not stop using it, so why don't you just accept it?

The use of "Louisiana" is legal but thats generic and can be used by anyone. Louisiana Rajin Cajuns is legal, trademarked, and NO OTHER school can use that term. Problem is, however, that ANY school in the system can refer to themselves as "Louisiana" and I would suspect that you will see that happen down the road. Louisiana Warhawks (UL Monroe), Louisiana Cowboys (Mcneese State), and Louisiana Lions (SE La University) etc. I travel about the state regularly in my job and there is actually a lot of resentment building up over this UL Lafayette name thing and wouldnt be surprised if Louisiana wasnt adopted and used by most just to put ULL in its place.

I have a question for the UL Lafayette fans who post here. The Southern University System is one of the three university systems in Louisiana. Suppose the Board of Supervisors of the Southern University System allows Southern University-Baton Rouge to change their name to the University of Louisiana? What would be your response keeping in mind that board has the same status and same rights as administrators of that system just like the Board of Supervisors of the colleges and universities had when they thought they could allow ULL to change to UL way back when and was later reversed by the State Legislature?

We have a University of Louisiana System. All of the schools in the system have their names and are branded that way. Even Southern University goes by simply Southern. There are ONLY 2 universities with the University of Louisiana name, UL Monroe and UL Lafayette. UL Monroe attempted to use the Louisiana initially and it failed. So, they elected to brand themselves as ULM. No school would enter into an identity issue using Louisiana only at the risk of losing their current brand. Also, keep in mind that LSU, Louisiana, LA Tech, and ULM are the only public FBS programs in the state. They would not further confuse their name with multiple uses of Louisiana. Each school wants its own Identity and has worked at developing their brand. Further to that, in 1984, USL changed its name to the University of Louisiana (no city tag) with all schools in the then Board of Trustees voicing approval, including LA Tech and then NLU. Our obtaining the University of Louisiana name was also instrumental in later forming the UL System. This name change was achieved thru the very system in which LA Tech changed its name from Louisiana Polytechnic Institute and LSUNO changed its name to UNO. We had a graduating class with University of Louisiana diplomas. LSU, which had nothing to do with this Board as it has its own system, challenged the process in court. After several years of legal battles, we lost the name by 1 vote in the LA Supreme Court by an LSU alumnus judge. In 2000, we agreed to the name change along with ULMonroe in exchange for supporting their admittance into the Sun belt Conference. We were grandfathered with use of Louisiana's Ragin Cajuns and used that reference for 12 years. There were no objections from anyone to use of that brand. We recently chose to enhance our brand by dropping the " 's" and just use Louisiana. That was not an arbitrary decision. We first checked the legality of doing so, then had no objections of its use by the UL System board. We are still officially the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Our use of Louisiana is only for athletics.

No other school has the history we have of obtaining the name and fighting a legal battle for 20+ years and created the UL system. We were the first public college in Louisiana to become a university other than LSU. Only ULM agreed to change as two schools were needed for the change and we agreed to their admission to the SBC. Wonder why we are so passionate about our name?

The UL System does not have a flagship as currently LSU is deemed the only flagship university of the state. LSU has publicly stated that they do not have a problem with our using Louisiana as it has no bearing on them. We are not trying to be recognized as the flagship university as that is not achievable. We only seek a recognizable brand that is reflective of our university which is the 2nd largest in the state doubling enrollment of every school except SE Louisiana. We are very near reaching Doc I status. We are growing quickly and have just spent almost $500M on campus buildings and dorm improvements and new construction. We are spending another $125M on athletic upgrades and stadium enlargement. We were held back by a dinosaur president who didn't retire until he was 80 years old. He held back athletics and we were non-productive for many years. But, he left the university debt free, so we are now able to greatly accelerate our growth and expansion. We now have a full commitment to athletics which is why football has gone 9-4 for 3 years and we are trying to win our 3rd bowl in a row. This sleeping giant is awakening.

Lafayette and surrounding area has just surpassed Shreveport as the 3rd largest in the state. It has the lowest unemployment in the country and we have many very wealthy alumni who are just starting to give to the university now that that see our commitment to excellence under our new president.

Look, we are deserving of having the Louisiana name athletically and we will continue our fight to maintain our legal branding. Those of you who still don't get it or have a personal agenda against us will never change their mind on this. Even people from out of state schools and a private university see fit to question what we are doing in something that has no impact on them. If this history of our name and our legal right to use the Louisiana brand doesn't convince you, then I doubt anything will. Fox calls us Louisiana, CBS has called us Louisiana, Phil Steele and other publications call us Louisiana. ESPN is the one network that has not yet come on board, but it will happen sooner rather than later. That just may be the key element to universal acceptance.

You responded with a long list of opinions and statements but did not answer my question. The Southern University System has equal standing with the other university groups in this state therefore how would the ULL fans respond if that system changed the name of Southern University -Baton Rouge to the University of Louisiana?

IF a frog had wings.... Southern has one of the best branded name of all the historically black universities. Why would it ever want to change? The University of Louisiana name falls within the University of Louisiana System. The name will not evolve in another system. And, the law now requires the legislature to change the name of a school, not the system board as it did in the past. So, no that will never happen.
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Thats so lame how about Texas Southern changing there name to Texas University. Frankly I don't care what anyone calls themselves I only care about what they call us.

The use of "Louisiana" is legal but thats generic and can be used by anyone. Louisiana Rajin Cajuns is legal, trademarked, and NO OTHER school can use that term. Problem is, however, that ANY school in the system can refer to themselves as "Louisiana" and I would suspect that you will see that happen down the road. Louisiana Warhawks (UL Monroe), Louisiana Cowboys (Mcneese State), and Louisiana Lions (SE La University) etc. I travel about the state regularly in my job and there is actually a lot of resentment building up over this UL Lafayette name thing and wouldnt be surprised if Louisiana wasnt adopted and used by most just to put ULL in its place.
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I have a question for the UL Lafayette fans who post here. The Southern University System is one of the three university systems in Louisiana. Suppose the Board of Supervisors of the Southern University System allows Southern University-Baton Rouge to change their name to the University of Louisiana? What would be your response keeping in mind that board has the same status and same rights as administrators of that system just like the Board of Supervisors of the colleges and universities had when they thought they could allow ULL to change to UL way back when and was later reversed by the State Legislature?
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We have a University of Louisiana System. All of the schools in the system have their names and are branded that way. Even Southern University goes by simply Southern. There are ONLY 2 universities with the University of Louisiana name, UL Monroe and UL Lafayette. UL Monroe attempted to use the Louisiana initially and it failed. So, they elected to brand themselves as ULM. No school would enter into an identity issue using Louisiana only at the risk of losing their current brand. Also, keep in mind that LSU, Louisiana, LA Tech, and ULM are the only public FBS programs in the state. They would not further confuse their name with multiple uses of Louisiana. Each school wants its own Identity and has worked at developing their brand. Further to that, in 1984, USL changed its name to the University of Louisiana (no city tag) with all schools in the then Board of Trustees voicing approval, including LA Tech and then NLU. Our obtaining the University of Louisiana name was also instrumental in later forming the UL System. This name change was achieved thru the very system in which LA Tech changed its name from Louisiana Polytechnic Institute and LSUNO changed its name to UNO. We had a graduating class with University of Louisiana diplomas. LSU, which had nothing to do with this Board as it has its own system, challenged the process in court. After several years of legal battles, we lost the name by 1 vote in the LA Supreme Court by an LSU alumnus judge. In 2000, we agreed to the name change along with ULMonroe in exchange for supporting their admittance into the Sun belt Conference. We were grandfathered with use of Louisiana's Ragin Cajuns and used that reference for 12 years. There were no objections from anyone to use of that brand. We recently chose to enhance our brand by dropping the " 's" and just use Louisiana. That was not an arbitrary decision. We first checked the legality of doing so, then had no objections of its use by the UL System board. We are still officially the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Our use of Louisiana is only for athletics.

No other school has the history we have of obtaining the name and fighting a legal battle for 20+ years and created the UL system. We were the first public college in Louisiana to become a university other than LSU. Only ULM agreed to change as two schools were needed for the change and we agreed to their admission to the SBC. Wonder why we are so passionate about our name?

The UL System does not have a flagship as currently LSU is deemed the only flagship university of the state. LSU has publicly stated that they do not have a problem with our using Louisiana as it has no bearing on them. We are not trying to be recognized as the flagship university as that is not achievable. We only seek a recognizable brand that is reflective of our university which is the 2nd largest in the state doubling enrollment of every school except SE Louisiana. We are very near reaching Doc I status. We are growing quickly and have just spent almost $500M on campus buildings and dorm improvements and new construction. We are spending another $125M on athletic upgrades and stadium enlargement. We were held back by a dinosaur president who didn't retire until he was 80 years old. He held back athletics and we were non-productive for many years. But, he left the university debt free, so we are now able to greatly accelerate our growth and expansion. We now have a full commitment to athletics which is why football has gone 9-4 for 3 years and we are trying to win our 3rd bowl in a row. This sleeping giant is awakening.

Lafayette and surrounding area has just surpassed Shreveport as the 3rd largest in the state. It has the lowest unemployment in the country and we have many very wealthy alumni who are just starting to give to the university now that that see our commitment to excellence under our new president.

Look, we are deserving of having the Louisiana name athletically and we will continue our fight to maintain our legal branding. Those of you who still don't get it or have a personal agenda against us will never change their mind on this. Even people from out of state schools and a private university see fit to question what we are doing in something that has no impact on them. If this history of our name and our legal right to use the Louisiana brand doesn't convince you, then I doubt anything will. Fox calls us Louisiana, CBS has called us Louisiana, Phil Steele and other publications call us Louisiana. ESPN is the one network that has not yet come on board, but it will happen sooner rather than later. That just may be the key element to universal acceptance.
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You responded with a long list of opinions and statements but did not answer my question. The Southern University System has equal standing with the other university groups in this state therefore how would the ULL fans respond if that system changed the name of Southern University -Baton Rouge to the University of Louisiana?
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IF a frog had wings.... Southern has one of the best branded name of all the historically black universities. Why would it ever want to change? The University of Louisiana name falls within the University of Louisiana System. The name will not evolve in another system. And, the law now requires the legislature to change the name of a school, not the system board as it did in the past. So, no that will never happen.
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Thats so lame how about Texas Southern changing there name to Texas University. Frankly I don't care what anyone calls themselves I only care about what they call us.
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Talk about lame. I asked a simple question and have never seen such political evasion, etc, the ULL folks must be mostly politicians. How about give us an answer to the question, What would be the ULL fans reaction if Southern University=Baton Rouge changed their name to the University of Louisiana? They have the same right to claim that name as do any other schools in the state. Why doesnt everyone just agree to give them that name and settle this matter once and for all.

(12-23-2013 10:03 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  Why doesnt everyone just agree to give them that name and settle this matter once and for all.

Uhhhh, maybe because they haven't asked for it?

(12-23-2013 12:30 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(12-23-2013 10:03 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  Why doesnt everyone just agree to give them that name and settle this matter once and for all.

Uhhhh, maybe because they haven't asked for it?

Well, what about giving them the name whether they ask or not. That was not the original question though which was what would be the ULL fans response IF they were designated as the University of Louisiana. Can you, as an obvious ULL fan, answer that question.

(12-23-2013 02:58 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  

(12-23-2013 12:30 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(12-23-2013 10:03 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  Why doesnt everyone just agree to give them that name and settle this matter once and for all.

Uhhhh, maybe because they haven't asked for it?

Well, what about giving them the name whether they ask or not. That was not the original question though which was what would be the ULL fans response IF they were designated as the University of Louisiana. Can you, as an obvious ULL fan, answer that question.

And IF my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle, right?

How about we do this. I'll call them Southern University of Louisiana from here forward and IF they request that the 'southern' part be dropped and IF they request that they be called University of Louisiana, I promise to give you my honest response...........IF the preceeding ever happens.

(12-23-2013 10:03 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  The use of "Louisiana" is legal but thats generic and can be used by anyone. Louisiana Rajin Cajuns is legal, trademarked, and NO OTHER school can use that term. Problem is, however, that ANY school in the system can refer to themselves as "Louisiana" and I would suspect that you will see that happen down the road. Louisiana Warhawks (UL Monroe), Louisiana Cowboys (Mcneese State), and Louisiana Lions (SE La University) etc. I travel about the state regularly in my job and there is actually a lot of resentment building up over this UL Lafayette name thing and wouldnt be surprised if Louisiana wasnt adopted and used by most just to put ULL in its place.

I have a question for the UL Lafayette fans who post here. The Southern University System is one of the three university systems in Louisiana. Suppose the Board of Supervisors of the Southern University System allows Southern University-Baton Rouge to change their name to the University of Louisiana? What would be your response keeping in mind that board has the same status and same rights as administrators of that system just like the Board of Supervisors of the colleges and universities had when they thought they could allow ULL to change to UL way back when and was later reversed by the State Legislature?
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We have a University of Louisiana System. All of the schools in the system have their names and are branded that way. Even Southern University goes by simply Southern. There are ONLY 2 universities with the University of Louisiana name, UL Monroe and UL Lafayette. UL Monroe attempted to use the Louisiana initially and it failed. So, they elected to brand themselves as ULM. No school would enter into an identity issue using Louisiana only at the risk of losing their current brand. Also, keep in mind that LSU, Louisiana, LA Tech, and ULM are the only public FBS programs in the state. They would not further confuse their name with multiple uses of Louisiana. Each school wants its own Identity and has worked at developing their brand. Further to that, in 1984, USL changed its name to the University of Louisiana (no city tag) with all schools in the then Board of Trustees voicing approval, including LA Tech and then NLU. Our obtaining the University of Louisiana name was also instrumental in later forming the UL System. This name change was achieved thru the very system in which LA Tech changed its name from Louisiana Polytechnic Institute and LSUNO changed its name to UNO. We had a graduating class with University of Louisiana diplomas. LSU, which had nothing to do with this Board as it has its own system, challenged the process in court. After several years of legal battles, we lost the name by 1 vote in the LA Supreme Court by an LSU alumnus judge. In 2000, we agreed to the name change along with ULMonroe in exchange for supporting their admittance into the Sun belt Conference. We were grandfathered with use of Louisiana's Ragin Cajuns and used that reference for 12 years. There were no objections from anyone to use of that brand. We recently chose to enhance our brand by dropping the " 's" and just use Louisiana. That was not an arbitrary decision. We first checked the legality of doing so, then had no objections of its use by the UL System board. We are still officially the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Our use of Louisiana is only for athletics.

No other school has the history we have of obtaining the name and fighting a legal battle for 20+ years and created the UL system. We were the first public college in Louisiana to become a university other than LSU. Only ULM agreed to change as two schools were needed for the change and we agreed to their admission to the SBC. Wonder why we are so passionate about our name?

The UL System does not have a flagship as currently LSU is deemed the only flagship university of the state. LSU has publicly stated that they do not have a problem with our using Louisiana as it has no bearing on them. We are not trying to be recognized as the flagship university as that is not achievable. We only seek a recognizable brand that is reflective of our university which is the 2nd largest in the state doubling enrollment of every school except SE Louisiana. We are very near reaching Doc I status. We are growing quickly and have just spent almost $500M on campus buildings and dorm improvements and new construction. We are spending another $125M on athletic upgrades and stadium enlargement. We were held back by a dinosaur president who didn't retire until he was 80 years old. He held back athletics and we were non-productive for many years. But, he left the university debt free, so we are now able to greatly accelerate our growth and expansion. We now have a full commitment to athletics which is why football has gone 9-4 for 3 years and we are trying to win our 3rd bowl in a row. This sleeping giant is awakening.

Lafayette and surrounding area has just surpassed Shreveport as the 3rd largest in the state. It has the lowest unemployment in the country and we have many very wealthy alumni who are just starting to give to the university now that that see our commitment to excellence under our new president.

Look, we are deserving of having the Louisiana name athletically and we will continue our fight to maintain our legal branding. Those of you who still don't get it or have a personal agenda against us will never change their mind on this. Even people from out of state schools and a private university see fit to question what we are doing in something that has no impact on them. If this history of our name and our legal right to use the Louisiana brand doesn't convince you, then I doubt anything will. Fox calls us Louisiana, CBS has called us Louisiana, Phil Steele and other publications call us Louisiana. ESPN is the one network that has not yet come on board, but it will happen sooner rather than later. That just may be the key element to universal acceptance.
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You responded with a long list of opinions and statements but did not answer my question. The Southern University System has equal standing with the other university groups in this state therefore how would the ULL fans respond if that system changed the name of Southern University -Baton Rouge to the University of Louisiana?
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IF a frog had wings.... Southern has one of the best branded name of all the historically black universities. Why would it ever want to change? The University of Louisiana name falls within the University of Louisiana System. The name will not evolve in another system. And, the law now requires the legislature to change the name of a school, not the system board as it did in the past. So, no that will never happen.
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Thats so lame how about Texas Southern changing there name to Texas University. Frankly I don't care what anyone calls themselves I only care about what they call us.
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Talk about lame. I asked a simple question and have never seen such political evasion, etc, the ULL folks must be mostly politicians. How about give us an answer to the question, What would be the ULL fans reaction if Southern University=Baton Rouge changed their name to the University of Louisiana? They have the same right to claim that name as do any other schools in the state. Why doesnt everyone just agree to give them that name and settle this matter once and for all.
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Duh I did answer the question here you go again I DON'T CARE WHAT ANY OTHER SCHOOL CALLS THEMSELVES I ONLY ABOUT WHAT THEY CALL US. Louisiana Jaguars sounds good to me but the politics wouldn't let an HBCU carry the name let say Louisiana Cowboys nope to many people hate Dallas never would happen but Louisiana Warhawks they tried it no on complained heck they can do it again all I care about is what you call us.

The name change is a done deal, and it worked. All the Nowhere Techs and Middle Mississippis are just going to have to deal with it.

Why can't eager eagle figure out how to properly quote posts on this board? seriously, I have spent more time trying to figure out where his actual posts start than actually reading everyone else's posts in this thread.

(12-23-2013 10:03 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  The use of "Louisiana" is legal but thats generic and can be used by anyone. Louisiana Rajin Cajuns is legal, trademarked, and NO OTHER school can use that term. Problem is, however, that ANY school in the system can refer to themselves as "Louisiana" and I would suspect that you will see that happen down the road. Louisiana Warhawks (UL Monroe), Louisiana Cowboys (Mcneese State), and Louisiana Lions (SE La University) etc. I travel about the state regularly in my job and there is actually a lot of resentment building up over this UL Lafayette name thing and wouldnt be surprised if Louisiana wasnt adopted and used by most just to put ULL in its place.

I have a question for the UL Lafayette fans who post here. The Southern University System is one of the three university systems in Louisiana. Suppose the Board of Supervisors of the Southern University System allows Southern University-Baton Rouge to change their name to the University of Louisiana? What would be your response keeping in mind that board has the same status and same rights as administrators of that system just like the Board of Supervisors of the colleges and universities had when they thought they could allow ULL to change to UL way back when and was later reversed by the State Legislature?
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We have a University of Louisiana System. All of the schools in the system have their names and are branded that way. Even Southern University goes by simply Southern. There are ONLY 2 universities with the University of Louisiana name, UL Monroe and UL Lafayette. UL Monroe attempted to use the Louisiana initially and it failed. So, they elected to brand themselves as ULM. No school would enter into an identity issue using Louisiana only at the risk of losing their current brand. Also, keep in mind that LSU, Louisiana, LA Tech, and ULM are the only public FBS programs in the state. They would not further confuse their name with multiple uses of Louisiana. Each school wants its own Identity and has worked at developing their brand. Further to that, in 1984, USL changed its name to the University of Louisiana (no city tag) with all schools in the then Board of Trustees voicing approval, including LA Tech and then NLU. Our obtaining the University of Louisiana name was also instrumental in later forming the UL System. This name change was achieved thru the very system in which LA Tech changed its name from Louisiana Polytechnic Institute and LSUNO changed its name to UNO. We had a graduating class with University of Louisiana diplomas. LSU, which had nothing to do with this Board as it has its own system, challenged the process in court. After several years of legal battles, we lost the name by 1 vote in the LA Supreme Court by an LSU alumnus judge. In 2000, we agreed to the name change along with ULMonroe in exchange for supporting their admittance into the Sun belt Conference. We were grandfathered with use of Louisiana's Ragin Cajuns and used that reference for 12 years. There were no objections from anyone to use of that brand. We recently chose to enhance our brand by dropping the " 's" and just use Louisiana. That was not an arbitrary decision. We first checked the legality of doing so, then had no objections of its use by the UL System board. We are still officially the University of Louisiana at Lafayette. Our use of Louisiana is only for athletics.

No other school has the history we have of obtaining the name and fighting a legal battle for 20+ years and created the UL system. We were the first public college in Louisiana to become a university other than LSU. Only ULM agreed to change as two schools were needed for the change and we agreed to their admission to the SBC. Wonder why we are so passionate about our name?

The UL System does not have a flagship as currently LSU is deemed the only flagship university of the state. LSU has publicly stated that they do not have a problem with our using Louisiana as it has no bearing on them. We are not trying to be recognized as the flagship university as that is not achievable. We only seek a recognizable brand that is reflective of our university which is the 2nd largest in the state doubling enrollment of every school except SE Louisiana. We are very near reaching Doc I status. We are growing quickly and have just spent almost $500M on campus buildings and dorm improvements and new construction. We are spending another $125M on athletic upgrades and stadium enlargement. We were held back by a dinosaur president who didn't retire until he was 80 years old. He held back athletics and we were non-productive for many years. But, he left the university debt free, so we are now able to greatly accelerate our growth and expansion. We now have a full commitment to athletics which is why football has gone 9-4 for 3 years and we are trying to win our 3rd bowl in a row. This sleeping giant is awakening.

Lafayette and surrounding area has just surpassed Shreveport as the 3rd largest in the state. It has the lowest unemployment in the country and we have many very wealthy alumni who are just starting to give to the university now that that see our commitment to excellence under our new president.

Look, we are deserving of having the Louisiana name athletically and we will continue our fight to maintain our legal branding. Those of you who still don't get it or have a personal agenda against us will never change their mind on this. Even people from out of state schools and a private university see fit to question what we are doing in something that has no impact on them. If this history of our name and our legal right to use the Louisiana brand doesn't convince you, then I doubt anything will. Fox calls us Louisiana, CBS has called us Louisiana, Phil Steele and other publications call us Louisiana. ESPN is the one network that has not yet come on board, but it will happen sooner rather than later. That just may be the key element to universal acceptance.
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You responded with a long list of opinions and statements but did not answer my question. The Southern University System has equal standing with the other university groups in this state therefore how would the ULL fans respond if that system changed the name of Southern University -Baton Rouge to the University of Louisiana?
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IF a frog had wings.... Southern has one of the best branded name of all the historically black universities. Why would it ever want to change? The University of Louisiana name falls within the University of Louisiana System. The name will not evolve in another system. And, the law now requires the legislature to change the name of a school, not the system board as it did in the past. So, no that will never happen.
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Thats so lame how about Texas Southern changing there name to Texas University. Frankly I don't care what anyone calls themselves I only care about what they call us.
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Talk about lame. I asked a simple question and have never seen such political evasion, etc, the ULL folks must be mostly politicians. How about give us an answer to the question, What would be the ULL fans reaction if Southern University=Baton Rouge changed their name to the University of Louisiana? They have the same right to claim that name as do any other schools in the state. Why doesnt everyone just agree to give them that name and settle this matter once and for all.
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Or if southern university just wanted to be known as southern? Oh that's right, they are just know as southern athletically. We just want to be called Louisiana athletically. The official name of the school is university of louisiana at Lafayette... Just like several schools around the country. There has been no file to change our official name again. Even though we did it twice legally and judge over turned it not because there was a law that said we couldn't but he said because there was not a law that said we could. Typical political BS. But hey it's cool but if I was our opponents, I'd rather get embarrassed like Tulane just did by Louisiana rather than getting embarrassed in every phase by ulala lalaf ull or whatever else y'all think is funny. In the words of Billy Hoyle "you just got beat twice by a slow,white geeky chump"

Look, we are deserving of having the Louisiana name athletically and we will continue our fight to maintain our legal branding. Those of you who still don't get it or have a personal agenda against us will never change their mind on this. Even people from out of state schools and a private university see fit to question what we are doing in something that has no impact on them. If this history of our name and our legal right to use the Louisiana brand doesn't convince you, then I doubt anything will. Fox calls us Louisiana, CBS has called us Louisiana, Phil Steele and other publications call us Louisiana. ESPN is the one network that has not yet come on board, but it will happen sooner rather than later. That just may be the key element to universal acceptance.
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You responded with a long list of opinions and statements but did not answer my question. The Southern University System has equal standing with the other university groups in this state therefore how would the ULL fans respond if that system changed the name of Southern University -Baton Rouge to the University of Louisiana?
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IF a frog had wings.... Southern has one of the best branded name of all the historically black universities. Why would it ever want to change? The University of Louisiana name falls within the University of Louisiana System. The name will not evolve in another system. And, the law now requires the legislature to change the name of a school, not the system board as it did in the past. So, no that will never happen.
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Thats so lame how about Texas Southern changing there name to Texas University. Frankly I don't care what anyone calls themselves I only care about what they call us.
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Talk about lame. I asked a simple question and have never seen such political evasion, etc, the ULL folks must be mostly politicians. How about give us an answer to the question, What would be the ULL fans reaction if Southern University=Baton Rouge changed their name to the University of Louisiana? They have the same right to claim that name as do any other schools in the state. Why doesnt everyone just agree to give them that name and settle this matter once and for all.
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Or if southern university just wanted to be known as southern? Oh that's right, they are just know as southern athletically. We just want to be called Louisiana athletically. The official name of the school is university of louisiana at Lafayette... Just like several schools around the country. There has been no file to change our official name again. Even though we did it twice legally and judge over turned it not because there was a law that said we couldn't but he said because there was not a law that said we could. Typical political BS. But hey it's cool but if I was our opponents, I'd rather get embarrassed like Tulane just did by Louisiana rather than getting embarrassed in every phase by ulala lalaf ull or whatever else y'all think is funny. In the words of Billy Hoyle "you just got beat twice by a slow,white geeky chump"
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I just asked a simple question and received a lot of rhetoric but not one hint of how ULL fans would have responded if Southern University-Baton Rouge had changed their name to the University of Louisiana. If you dont want to answer just tell me otherwise I might just continue asking, it is a totally appropriate question.

Can a mod move this thread to the toilet because that's were it's gone because of the cajun name crap.

The question I always walk away from these discussions with is "what kind of a chicken **** state wouldn't want a 'University of' instead of a regional / teacher's college?".

And then I remember. David Duke. Mardi Gras. Da Tigaz. The full refrigerator / wrong-way-down-the-Interstate-at-full-French-Army-speed way we handled Katrina. Hollywood South. Bobby Jindal.

And finally, I understand the pain that ULL has endured, trying to hand bread to a starving imbecile who doesn't like the color of the plate on which it's offered.

Let 'em starve and watch LSU football the whole time.

(12-17-2013 03:14 PM)emeraldcoastwave Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 03:07 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  I bet 45,000 of those are going to be wearing red.

How much?? I'll take a $10,000.00 bet.

I want my $10 G's !!

So far, this is one of the 3 best bowl games I've watched so far this bowl season. The large turnout by fans of both schools made this game very "electric" and the players had to feed off of that energy.

(12-26-2013 03:16 PM)Matrix Wrote:  So far, this is one of the 3 best bowl games I've watched so far this bowl season. The large turnout by fans of both schools made this game very "electric" and the players had to feed off of that energy.

Without a doubt the best of the last 3 New Orleans Bowls was 2011 Louisiana vs SDSU. San Diego St was the clear favorite and ran into a 35 year in the waiting buzz saw.