The Big Twelve does not have any candidates that bring twenty million a year.


Simple solution add four schools and give each a half share of revenue until the current TV contract runs out .

A school like UCF or New Mexico will gain value in the eight years left on the contract. A ten year transition is even fine vs staying in a G5 conference for the new members .

-while i do agree with you that schools particularly large land grants can be great long term adds as a building project. however to add 4 of them at once would water down the quality of the league too quickly.

-second, to have that much of an unequal revenue sharing model is just asking for resentment and a lot of internal disputes.

-third to add 4 programs like that will discredit the strength of the league for some time. In this situation it is better to be small with high quality schools than to be large with medium quality schools.

from a "building project perspective" I think their options are best with

1. CSU
2. New Mexcio
3. UCF
4. BYU (not really a building project)
5. USF
6. Cincy
7. Houston
8. rice
9. Wyoming
10. Utah state

*if you add wyo csu byu & NM then you have to add Air Force

The Big XII isn't adding New Mexico or any of the schools John listed, gentlemen.

Add Arky State and Missouri State and give them nothing for 10 years. Nothing!

they can make their own tv deal! They get nothing !

I love how we get left out of all the hypotheticals even while throwing around New Mexico, Wyo, and Rice.... Good grief

(12-11-2013 08:53 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  The Big XII isn't adding New Mexico or any of the schools John listed, gentlemen.

umm......

they almost added NM & BYU in the 90s

(12-11-2013 08:55 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  I love how we get left out of all the hypotheticals even while throwing around New Mexico, Wyo, and Rice.... Good grief

um should i mention a lil thing called geography? doesnt take a genius to realize that my list had a strong emphasis on that

You had me going until you said "The".

(12-11-2013 09:19 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  You had me going until you said "The".

(12-11-2013 08:53 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  The Big XII isn't adding New Mexico or any of the schools John listed, gentlemen.

I could see BYU, Cincinnati, and maybe USF and UCF if the b12 wants to get into Florida and they can't get FSU. The rest of the teams are not going to happen, or if they do it's because Texas and OU has left.

(12-11-2013 08:14 PM)john01992 Wrote:  -while i do agree with you that schools particularly large land grants can be great long term adds as a building project. however to add 4 of them at once would water down the quality of the league too quickly.

-second, to have that much of an unequal revenue sharing model is just asking for resentment and a lot of internal disputes.

-third to add 4 programs like that will discredit the strength of the league for some time. In this situation it is better to be small with high quality schools than to be large with medium quality schools.

from a "building project perspective" I think their options are best with

1. CSU
2. New Mexcio
3. UCF
4. BYU (not really a building project)
5. USF
6. Cincy
7. Houston
8. rice
9. Wyoming
10. Utah state

*if you add wyo csu byu & NM then you have to add Air Force

This list to the Big 12 makes sense as replacements, not additions. For example, lose Oklahoma, add CSU. Lose Texas, add New Mexico. Lose Kansas, add BYU. If done in that way, those additions make sensible adds next to the lower teams of the Big 12. A conference of Colorado State, Kansas State, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, New Mexico, Wyoming, Air Force, Texas Tech, BYU, Baylor, and TCU makes more sense than Colorado State and Texas in the same conference.

(12-11-2013 09:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 08:53 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  The Big XII isn't adding New Mexico or any of the schools John listed, gentlemen.

umm......

they almost added NM & BYU in the 90s

Aw come on John you know better than that... and we were doing so well.

(12-12-2013 01:23 PM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 08:14 PM)john01992 Wrote:  -while i do agree with you that schools particularly large land grants can be great long term adds as a building project. however to add 4 of them at once would water down the quality of the league too quickly.

-second, to have that much of an unequal revenue sharing model is just asking for resentment and a lot of internal disputes.

-third to add 4 programs like that will discredit the strength of the league for some time. In this situation it is better to be small with high quality schools than to be large with medium quality schools.

from a "building project perspective" I think their options are best with

1. CSU
2. New Mexcio
3. UCF
4. BYU (not really a building project)
5. USF
6. Cincy
7. Houston
8. rice
9. Wyoming
10. Utah state

*if you add wyo csu byu & NM then you have to add Air Force

This list to the Big 12 makes sense as replacements, not additions. For example, lose Oklahoma, add CSU. Lose Texas, add New Mexico. Lose Kansas, add BYU. If done in that way, those additions make sensible adds next to the lower teams of the Big 12. A conference of Colorado State, Kansas State, Iowa State, Oklahoma State, New Mexico, Wyoming, Air Force, Texas Tech, BYU, Baylor, and TCU makes more sense than Colorado State and Texas in the same conference.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!
(glad to see all hope isnt lost for this board)

(12-11-2013 08:55 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  I love how we get left out of all the hypotheticals even while throwing around New Mexico, Wyo, and Rice.... Good grief

I think mostly that happens because Big 12 fans don't want ECU fans on their message boards.

(12-12-2013 03:03 PM)jarmzet Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 08:55 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  I love how we get left out of all the hypotheticals even while throwing around New Mexico, Wyo, and Rice.... Good grief

I think mostly that happens because Big 12 fans don't want ECU fans on their message boards.

if your school was picked last to join the big east/aac ==> dont expect any 1st round invites to the b12

(12-11-2013 09:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 08:53 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  The Big XII isn't adding New Mexico or any of the schools John listed, gentlemen.

umm......

they almost added NM & BYU in the 90s

And the SEC considered adding both A&M and Houston in the early 90's.

It's a different world now.

(12-12-2013 03:03 PM)jarmzet Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 08:55 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  I love how we get left out of all the hypotheticals even while throwing around New Mexico, Wyo, and Rice.... Good grief

I think mostly that happens because Big 12 fans don't want ECU fans on their message boards.

What boards? The one on here is INACTIVE..........

I thought I read that Maryland and Rutgers do not start out with a full share of revenue .

the argument against adding schools is none of the schools are worth sharing twenty million.

So take the best four and give them half shares their value will increase .

A half share would still be a big increase to any G5 school and a full share would come later . The conference gets four new markets for the cost of two and a championship game .

(12-12-2013 03:57 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 09:10 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(12-11-2013 08:53 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  The Big XII isn't adding New Mexico or any of the schools John listed, gentlemen.

umm......

they almost added NM & BYU in the 90s

And the SEC considered adding both A&M and Houston in the early 90's.

It's a different world now.

Arkansas wanted Rice to leave the SWC to the SEC with them in 1989! What a mistake to believe tu and TAMU and their assurances that Rice would be better off remaining with them in the SWC.