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RE: Pinstripe Official: Notre Dame vs Rutgers
(12-08-2013 04:52 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
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(12-08-2013 12:45 AM)brista21 Wrote:  Makes me want to pule. Rutgers is going to get just wrecked by a mediocre Notes Dame team. This is a very poorly coached 6-6 team that should be nowhere near postseason play. I just hope Flood still ends up fired.

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Rutgers doesn't have 4 million to buy out Flood and his staff. Rutgers does not want any more negative press either. Also Rutgers has all of its cash tied up in the previous chaos with the BB coach and the AD.
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Rutgers just fired their DC,OL and QB coach.
This is another bad joke on Rutgers



If we don't have $4 Million (and its actually like $3.5 million) to can these morons who are destroying the foundation of the program rather than building it, then we shouldn't be entering the Big Ten period.

If thats a bad joke then what do you call what is happening up in Stoors?
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RE: Pinstripe Official: Notre Dame vs Rutgers
(12-08-2013 08:40 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Many people used to ***** when ND accepted a bowl bid.

Many people used to ***** when ND turned down a bowl bid.
Example?
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Are you kidding? Fans of other schools bitched about every BCS bowl bid that ND ever accepted.


http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php...5083.0;wap


http://www.dawgsports.com/2007/5/26/103552/453

Big East fans bitched every time that ND accepted a Gator Bowl or other Big East bowl slot.

From 2000:

"Max also has sniffed out the usual poll bias for Notre Dame, which actually doesn't belong in contention for any major bowl but which the media -- to say nothing of the bowl sponsors -- would love to see play on New Year's Day because of the TV audience the Irish command. "

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB97...6659129422


Even back in 1991, people were bitching about ND accepting a Sugar Bowl bid.

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1991-11...-bowl-city

The joke in 1991 was "What is the difference between ND and Cheerios? Cheerios belong in a bowl."

That was before Jerome Bettis ran for about 200 yards and ND destroyed Steve Spurrier and the Florida Gators in the Sugar Bowl.


"I can't wait to get back to the restaurant and see the waiter who said, 'Cheerios and Notre Dame are different. Cheerios belong in a bowl.'"
--Lou Holtz, after Notre Dame upset Florida in the 1992 Sugar Bowl



Then, there are several occasions where ND was criticized for declining to go to a bowl:


http://www.secfanatics.com/vbulletin/sho...a2ade6f0c5

http://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/general-...l-bid.html

http://espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4713316

http://voices.yahoo.com/notre-dame-refus...18026.html

http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/12/05/n...barrassed/

http://chat.virginiatech.sportswar.com/m.../50012.php

http://www.fark.com/comments/4823846/Not...ame-anyway

http://www.unathleticmag.com/2009/12/03/...-bowl-bid/


http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-...opper-bowl

"After the 1996 season, a three loss Irish team turned down bowl bids for lesser tier bowls."

http://www.uhnd.com/blog/notre-dame-foot...-bowl-bid/

http://articles.latimes.com/1996-12-01/s...notre-dame


Here is an article critical of ND for its bowl stance from 1925 up to and including 1969:


http://www.goldsheet.com/gs_new/readmore.php?id=2131

For background, ND had a self imposed bowl ban from 1925 until 1969. They felt bowls interfered with the players' academics/finals.


There are many more examples. I just got tired of looking.
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RE: Pinstripe Official: Notre Dame vs Rutgers
(12-08-2013 10:47 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  
(12-08-2013 04:52 PM)Rich52c Wrote:  
(12-08-2013 04:40 PM)brista21 Wrote:  
(12-08-2013 01:43 PM)carolinaknights Wrote:  
(12-08-2013 12:45 AM)brista21 Wrote:  Makes me want to pule. Rutgers is going to get just wrecked by a mediocre Notes Dame team. This is a very poorly coached 6-6 team that should be nowhere near postseason play. I just hope Flood still ends up fired.

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Rutgers doesn't have 4 million to buy out Flood and his staff. Rutgers does not want any more negative press either. Also Rutgers has all of its cash tied up in the previous chaos with the BB coach and the AD.
07-coffee3
Rutgers just fired their DC,OL and QB coach.
This is another bad joke on Rutgers



If we don't have $4 Million (and its actually like $3.5 million) to can these morons who are destroying the foundation of the program rather than building it, then we shouldn't be entering the Big Ten period.

If thats a bad joke then what do you call what is happening up in Stoors?

First of all, it's "Storrs". But UConn is doing fine:

1) Men's BB is #12, undefeated, and moving up.
2) Women's BB is on cruise control, headed for an 8th national championship.
3) The field hockey team just won the national championship.
4) The men's soccer team just made the national quarterfinals (Elite Eight) for the third straight year.
5) The FB team is on a three game winning streak (including a win over Rutgers). They've finally found a solid QB, and they're about to make a great HC hire.

Academically & athletically, UConn is doing well. Maybe we could take your spot in the Big 10 while you get your act together.
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(12-09-2013 09:19 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  2) Women's BB is on cruise control, headed for an 8th national championship.

A UConn fan doesn't know you already have 8? 03-lmfao
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(12-10-2013 07:44 AM)TerryD Wrote:  An Offer ND Couldn't Refuse:

http://notredame.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1585267

Plus, the Pinstripe let Notre Dame pick its foe. They chose 6-6 Rutgers over 8-4 Houston.

Scared of the Coogs . . .
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(12-09-2013 08:49 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Are you kidding? Fans of other schools bitched about every BCS bowl bid that ND ever accepted.
That was an impressive list, Terry. I admit I did not read every single comment on every single link, but I read a lot of them. Based on the comments I did see, we will have to disagree that fans of other schools b*tched about Notre Dame accepting bowl bids. What they b*tched about, IMHO, was bowls (especially BCS bowls) inviting Notre Dame when other teams with higher rankings and/or with better W-L records were passed over for those invitations.


Quote:Then, there are several occasions where ND was criticized for declining to go to a bowl
Most of those links seemed to focus on one particular season (2009) when Notre Dame was 6-6 and had just fired the HC. I will readily concede -- if the point is really in dispute -- that no team should ever be obligated to accept the invitation to participate in a bowl game or other exhibition game. And I also think that a decision to decline such an invitation does not require any explanation or elaboration by the school making the decision.

With that said, I also believe that teams which do decline bowl invitations in this day and age do so overwhelmingly for one reason: the expectation/belief/concern that they are likely to lose in embarrassing circumstances. And I believe that was the main motivating factor in Notre Dame deciding to stay home in December 2009. It is natural that internet-trolls are going to ridicule such a decision, no matter what school is making it.



Quote:For background, ND had a self imposed bowl ban from 1925 until 1969. They felt bowls interfered with the players' academics/finals.
It is remarkable how college football has gone from a 9-or-10 game season to a 12-or-13 game season (14 for a handful of teams). Notre Dame is no worse in that regard than anyone else.
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(12-09-2013 08:49 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Are you kidding? Fans of other schools bitched about every BCS bowl bid that ND ever accepted.


http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php...5083.0;wap


http://www.dawgsports.com/2007/5/26/103552/453

Big East fans bitched every time that ND accepted a Gator Bowl or other Big East bowl slot.

From 2000:

"Max also has sniffed out the usual poll bias for Notre Dame, which actually doesn't belong in contention for any major bowl but which the media -- to say nothing of the bowl sponsors -- would love to see play on New Year's Day because of the TV audience the Irish command. "

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB97...6659129422


Even back in 1991, people were bitching about ND accepting a Sugar Bowl bid.

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1991-11...-bowl-city

The joke in 1991 was "What is the difference between ND and Cheerios? Cheerios belong in a bowl."

That was before Jerome Bettis ran for about 200 yards and ND destroyed Steve Spurrier and the Florida Gators in the Sugar Bowl.


"I can't wait to get back to the restaurant and see the waiter who said, 'Cheerios and Notre Dame are different. Cheerios belong in a bowl.'"
--Lou Holtz, after Notre Dame upset Florida in the 1992 Sugar Bowl



Then, there are several occasions where ND was criticized for declining to go to a bowl:


http://www.secfanatics.com/vbulletin/sho...a2ade6f0c5

http://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/general-...l-bid.html

http://espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4713316

http://voices.yahoo.com/notre-dame-refus...18026.html

http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/12/05/n...barrassed/

http://chat.virginiatech.sportswar.com/m.../50012.php

http://www.fark.com/comments/4823846/Not...ame-anyway

http://www.unathleticmag.com/2009/12/03/...-bowl-bid/


http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-...opper-bowl

"After the 1996 season, a three loss Irish team turned down bowl bids for lesser tier bowls."

http://www.uhnd.com/blog/notre-dame-foot...-bowl-bid/

http://articles.latimes.com/1996-12-01/s...notre-dame


Here is an article critical of ND for its bowl stance from 1925 up to and including 1969:


http://www.goldsheet.com/gs_new/readmore.php?id=2131

For background, ND had a self imposed bowl ban from 1925 until 1969. They felt bowls interfered with the players' academics/finals.


There are many more examples. I just got tired of looking.
You'd miss all that persecution if it disappeared, Terry. Sometimes I think you thrive on it. 04-cheers
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(12-11-2013 03:35 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(12-09-2013 08:49 AM)TerryD Wrote:  Are you kidding? Fans of other schools bitched about every BCS bowl bid that ND ever accepted.


http://www.hogville.net/yabbse/index.php...5083.0;wap


http://www.dawgsports.com/2007/5/26/103552/453

Big East fans bitched every time that ND accepted a Gator Bowl or other Big East bowl slot.

From 2000:

"Max also has sniffed out the usual poll bias for Notre Dame, which actually doesn't belong in contention for any major bowl but which the media -- to say nothing of the bowl sponsors -- would love to see play on New Year's Day because of the TV audience the Irish command. "

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB97...6659129422


Even back in 1991, people were bitching about ND accepting a Sugar Bowl bid.

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1991-11...-bowl-city

The joke in 1991 was "What is the difference between ND and Cheerios? Cheerios belong in a bowl."

That was before Jerome Bettis ran for about 200 yards and ND destroyed Steve Spurrier and the Florida Gators in the Sugar Bowl.


"I can't wait to get back to the restaurant and see the waiter who said, 'Cheerios and Notre Dame are different. Cheerios belong in a bowl.'"
--Lou Holtz, after Notre Dame upset Florida in the 1992 Sugar Bowl



Then, there are several occasions where ND was criticized for declining to go to a bowl:


http://www.secfanatics.com/vbulletin/sho...a2ade6f0c5

http://cyclonefanatic.com/forum/general-...l-bid.html

http://espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4713316

http://voices.yahoo.com/notre-dame-refus...18026.html

http://www.scoresreport.com/2009/12/05/n...barrassed/

http://chat.virginiatech.sportswar.com/m.../50012.php

http://www.fark.com/comments/4823846/Not...ame-anyway

http://www.unathleticmag.com/2009/12/03/...-bowl-bid/


http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-...opper-bowl

"After the 1996 season, a three loss Irish team turned down bowl bids for lesser tier bowls."

http://www.uhnd.com/blog/notre-dame-foot...-bowl-bid/

http://articles.latimes.com/1996-12-01/s...notre-dame


Here is an article critical of ND for its bowl stance from 1925 up to and including 1969:


http://www.goldsheet.com/gs_new/readmore.php?id=2131

For background, ND had a self imposed bowl ban from 1925 until 1969. They felt bowls interfered with the players' academics/finals.


There are many more examples. I just got tired of looking.
You'd miss all that persecution if it disappeared, Terry. Sometimes I think you thrive on it. 04-cheers


Why sure, Bit. It is called "embrace the hate". Us vs. Them.

Part of the enjoyment that I get from an ND win is the knowledge that it just pissed a lot of other people off. :)
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