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OT: Gary Kubiak fired
At a press conference this morning. I'm reading between the lines of what Bob McNair (Texans' owner) is saying, but it sounds like benching Case Keenum mid-game in favor of Schaub was the last straw on top of all the other 2-11 things. McNair seems very committed to giving Keenum a big chance, and seems out on Schaub. Wade Phillips will be the interim head coach and will get to interview for the permanent job.
I feel bad for Gary, he seems like a good guy. But it is the NFL I guess...
I hope he can come watch his son win a conference championship Saturday!
(This post was last modified: 12-06-2013 12:41 PM by Philoso-Owl.)
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
Maybe they can draft another Carr next year
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12-06-2013 12:40 PM |
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
I feel bad for Kubes but at the same time if I went the equivalent of 2-11 at my job I'm sure I'd have been let go.
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
If Reagan is going to Kansas... hey, it's worth a call.
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
I can hear the pressed now... It's been my dream job. My family always wanted to come back to Houston....
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12-06-2013 01:46 PM |
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
Well, his schedule has been cleared up...
Given Kubiak's stress-related health problems, the Rice OC might be a good lower-stress position for him, at least for a year or two. He's still coaching football, and he doesn't have to move. Even if it's just an interim thing, he would be a major step up from Reagan.
I will be so glad if Charlie Weis, of all people, takes Reagan off our hands.
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12-06-2013 02:11 PM |
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
The record was bad, but ultimately the continued PT for Schaub was just ridiculous. Play your rookie and find out what you have/need heading into a huge draft decision..
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
(12-06-2013 02:13 PM)At Ease Wrote: The record was bad, but ultimately the continued PT for Schaub was just ridiculous. Play your rookie and find out what you have/need heading into a huge draft decision..
I understand why he played him vs Oakland as Case was struggling wfula and they had a chance of turning the season around (although, not much of one). Playing him last night, I dunno, but Gary was gone regardless and whether the straw was being swept by Jax or playing Matt again probably was both. I still contend this season was going to be an issue when the o line which struggled last year (how many time was Arian hit in the backfield) was not fixed. Frankly, I think the NFL figgered the Texans out in mid season last year as to weak o line and transparent playcalling. This combined with the Cushing injuries and special teams ridiculousness just snowballed everything.
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12-06-2013 02:42 PM |
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
(12-06-2013 02:42 PM)texowl2 Wrote: (12-06-2013 02:13 PM)At Ease Wrote: The record was bad, but ultimately the continued PT for Schaub was just ridiculous. Play your rookie and find out what you have/need heading into a huge draft decision..
I understand why he played him vs Oakland as Case was struggling wfula and they had a chance of turning the season around (although, not much of one). Playing him last night, I dunno, but Gary was gone regardless and whether the straw was being swept by Jax or playing Matt again probably was both. I still contend this season was going to be an issue when the o line which struggled last year (how many time was Arian hit in the backfield) was not fixed. Frankly, I think the NFL figgered the Texans out in mid season last year as to weak o line and transparent playcalling. This combined with the Cushing injuries and special teams ridiculousness just snowballed everything.
I don't think you can have weak o line and good play calling. Ruowls may beg to differ, but even for a man of his talents that's difficult.
The Schaub extension killed them.
#1, he's not that good.
#2, to make the cap work they had to dump a bunch of depth, and tat has killed them when injuries occurred.
(This post was last modified: 12-06-2013 03:08 PM by Owl 69/70/75.)
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
Nice guy...all class....just didn't work out in the end.
Not sure about Keenum. Still think they need to draft a QB. Give him a chance to compete for #1 spot. Either way, you got some nice trade bait.
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12-06-2013 02:57 PM |
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
(12-06-2013 01:46 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote: I can hear the pressed now... It's been my dream job. My family always wanted to come back to Houston....
When I read that it brought images of the Toad hopping into the NFL.
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12-06-2013 04:12 PM |
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
The Special Teams coach Joe Marciano just got canned too. Special teams has been awful for YEARS.
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12-06-2013 04:16 PM |
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
(12-06-2013 04:12 PM)WMD Owl Wrote: (12-06-2013 01:46 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote: I can hear the pressed now... It's been my dream job. My family always wanted to come back to Houston....
When I read that it brought images of the Toad hopping into the NFL.
That was the point of my sad attempt at humor.
It was triggered by the list of potential replacements in the Chronicle on-line poll. Guz Malzahn is one of the names listed, not Toad thankfully, but the thought did cross my mind. Malzahn was Toad's OC and Asst. HC at Tulsa. Guilt by association?
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
(12-06-2013 04:16 PM)Baconator Wrote: The Special Teams coach Joe Marciano just got canned too. Special teams has been awful for YEARS.
Yeah, Marciano should have been fire 3 years ago. That Kubiak kept him around doesn't reflect well on him. Not the "final straw," but certainly a contributing factor.
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
(12-06-2013 02:53 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: I don't think you can have weak o line and good play calling. Ruowls may beg to differ, but even for a man of his talents that's difficult.
I am sure that John Elway would agree. And probably every other QB that has had to run for his life.
edit: speaking of Elway, I've always rooted for Kubiak - he was Elway's backup for much of his career, and OC for part of it, IIRC.
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
(12-06-2013 02:57 PM)colethan Wrote: Nice guy...all class....just didn't work out in the end.
Not sure about Keenum. Still think they need to draft a QB. Give him a chance to compete for #1 spot. Either way, you got some nice trade bait.
Yes - by the numbers Keenum's been no better than Schaub, so if Schaub's not the answer, Keenum isn't either.
The Texans still have a lot of the pieces when healthy. If the quarterback situation is resolved in the off-season, it would be no surprise at all if they did next season what the Kansas City Chiefs have done this season.
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
(12-06-2013 02:57 PM)colethan Wrote: Nice guy...all class....just didn't work out in the end.
Not sure about Keenum. Still think they need to draft a QB. Give him a chance to compete for #1 spot. Either way, you got some nice trade bait.
They still need to solve the O Line. Neither Peyton or Montana could do well behind that mess......
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
(12-06-2013 01:46 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote: I can hear the pressed now... It's been my dream job. My family always wanted to come back to Houston....
OMG! I think I'm having a heart attack with just the slightest scintilla of a thought that the Toad would even be considered for any NFL job, much less the Texans.
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
(12-06-2013 02:57 PM)colethan Wrote: Nice guy...all class....just didn't work out in the end.
Not sure about Keenum. Still think they need to draft a QB. Give him a chance to compete for #1 spot. Either way, you got some nice trade bait.
They still need to solve the O Line. Neither Peyton or Montana could do well behind that mess......
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RE: OT: Gary Kubiak fired
So, would you take an O-lineman with the first overall draft pick?
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12-06-2013 05:51 PM |
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