Maybe the question is not "can" but how often a team from CUSA will be in that spot? The talk amongst AAC and MWC posters is that slot will belong to those two conferences 90% of the time.

AAC, MWC, and MAC will get the spot way more often than C-USA or 'Belt.

(12-06-2013 11:43 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  AAC, MWC, and MAC will get the spot way more often than C-USA or 'Belt.

You really don't like CUSA do ya?

Whether or not I like C-USA is irrelevant. It is the worst FBS conference.

http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/...f_Men.html
http://warrennolan.com/football/2013/conferencenpi

(12-06-2013 11:47 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Whether or not I like C-USA is irrelevant. It is the worst FBS conference.

http://realtimerpi.com/college_football/...f_Men.html
http://warrennolan.com/football/2013/conferencenpi

I seem to remember Boise getting to a BCS Bowl game being in the WAC. What is your point?

I think we can, but I also think it will take an undefeated team to do it. But that is probably the case with all G5, except that I do think that a 11-1/12-1 AAC or MWC champ could go without being undefeated. Like it or not, I think the perception of those two conferences today, is that they are the upper rank of the G5 and CUSA, SBC and MAC are lower rung.

1. The WAC had been stronger than C-USA.
2. Strength of schedule and "the eye test" become a bigger factor next year.

What are you guys talking about. The playoff is going to have four teams. And as long as its four it will never include a G5 school.

(12-06-2013 11:56 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  What are you guys talking about. The playoff is going to have four teams. And as long as its four it will never include a G5 school.

I assume we're talking about the 'access bowl' slot.

(12-06-2013 12:09 PM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:56 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  What are you guys talking about. The playoff is going to have four teams. And as long as its four it will never include a G5 school.

I assume we're talking about the 'access bowl' slot.

Yes.

The access bowl slot will go to the team with the best record in almost all circumstances, with ranking being the tiebreaker. The only way that changes is if an unexpected team feasts on a crummy non-con schedule and a weak conference while someone else goes 11-1 with two wins over top 25 teams or something.

(12-06-2013 11:51 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  1. The WAC had been stronger than C-USA.
2. Strength of schedule and "the eye test" become a bigger factor next year.

Well if team s like UAB and FIU werent so bad.

Just went to the BCS site to find the highest ranked G5 team for each year as a proxy for the slot in the access bowl. Here is what I've found.

Conference listed is each school's destination.

2012 15. Northern Illinois MAC
2011 7. Boise State MWC
2010 10. Boise State MWC
2009 3. Cincinnati AAC
2008 9. Boise State MWC
2007 10. Hawaii MWC
2006 8. Boise State MWC
2005 NONE
2004 9. Boise State MWC
2003 11 Miami (OH) MAC

Only T15 listed earlier
2002 NONE
2001 NONE
2000 NONE
1999 12. Marshall CUSA
1998 10. Tulane AAC

MWC - 6
MAC - 2
AAC - 2
CUSA - 1
Sun Belt - 0

MWC is the majority. AAC is pretty much in the same boat as everyone else.

(12-06-2013 12:22 PM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:51 AM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  1. The WAC had been stronger than C-USA.
2. Strength of schedule and "the eye test" become a bigger factor next year.

Well if team s like UAB and FIU werent so bad.

And if you could beat us every year.

(12-06-2013 11:41 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Maybe the question is not "can" but how often a team from CUSA will be in that spot? The talk amongst AAC and MWC posters is that slot will belong to those two conferences 90% of the time.

The hilarious part to that statement is without the auto bid for the AAC this season the slot would go to Northern Illinois for the 2nd straight time.

Cinny was not G5 in 09, BCS AQ.

(12-06-2013 12:25 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  Cinny was not G5 in 09, BCS AQ.

I understand that. This is a simple guess based on future conference alignment.

(12-06-2013 12:25 PM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:41 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Maybe the question is not "can" but how often a team from CUSA will be in that spot? The talk amongst AAC and MWC posters is that slot will belong to those two conferences 90% of the time.

The hilarious part to that statement is without the auto bid for the AAC this season the slot would go to Northern Illinois for the 2nd straight time.

Not necessarily…SOS will be a much bigger factor in the new ranking system. Not saying that it would not be NIU but I do not think it would be a slam dunk either. It will be interesting to see how much SOS plays a role in the new ranking system. I can see a scenario where conferences like the MWC and the AAC cannibalize themselves as it will be very difficult to run through either of those conferences undefeated. I could see a scenario where CUSA, Sun Belt, or the MAC could end up with a program that is able to separate themselves from the rest of their conference mates and go on a Boise St like run and if that happens it would be hard for the MWC or the AAC to beat that team out.

(12-06-2013 12:32 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  I could see a scenario where CUSA, Sun Belt, or the MAC could end up with a program that is able to separate themselves from the rest of their conference mates and go on a Boise St like run and if that happens it would be hard for the MWC or the AAC to beat that team out.

My thoughts exactly.

Answer to the question in the thread-title: Yes.

(12-06-2013 12:32 PM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 12:25 PM)BleedsGreen33 Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:41 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Maybe the question is not "can" but how often a team from CUSA will be in that spot? The talk amongst AAC and MWC posters is that slot will belong to those two conferences 90% of the time.

The hilarious part to that statement is without the auto bid for the AAC this season the slot would go to Northern Illinois for the 2nd straight time.

Not necessarily…SOS will be a much bigger factor in the new ranking system. Not saying that it would not be NIU but I do not think it would be a slam dunk either. It will be interesting to see how much SOS plays a role in the new ranking system. I can see a scenario where conferences like the MWC and the AAC cannibalize themselves as it will be very difficult to run through either of those conferences undefeated. I could see a scenario where CUSA, Sun Belt, or the MAC could end up with a program that is able to separate themselves from the rest of their conference mates and go on a Boise St like run and if that happens it would be hard for the MWC or the AAC to beat that team out.

I was just looking at the rankings as of now. It will be interesting to see how much SS effects scheduling from all schools going forward.