It will be interesting to see how Boise State does in football after he leaves. Was it all a dream? Will the success continue? Would he have stayed had Boise State gotten into a AQ conference?

(12-06-2013 09:48 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 09:43 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 09:37 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 09:22 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 08:34 AM)Maize Wrote:  Huge blow to the MWC...Good news for the rest of the GoF especially the American.

BSU will be fine and get a great coach. Coach Bryan Harsin or Brent Pease may be on the phone with BSU. They were under coach Pete and were part of the success of BSU in the last 8 years.

I am not sure Boise can afford Harsin. ASU has enough in the coffers to pay Harsin fairly close to what Boise would probably offer, and we have a 2 million dollar buyout attached to him.

That's a lot of cash for an MWC school...even Boise to come up with.

I've seen its only $1 million. Either way BSU does have the $$ to get if they want him that bad.

We made a bowl game, so the buyout stays 1.75 million until a week after our bowl game. It drops to 1 million in Mid January.

Boise could probably pay for it...but the question is are they willing to pay that much, when coaches that are just as good will be cheaper.

Boise still has to pay the Big East exit fee I believe . There is also reports of a lot of debt for stadium and football facility upgrades . The new coach gets to face a tougher schedule. FSU and MSU are future home games along with MWC being better than the WAC .

(12-06-2013 10:38 AM)MJG Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 09:48 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 09:43 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 09:37 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 09:22 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  BSU will be fine and get a great coach. Coach Bryan Harsin or Brent Pease may be on the phone with BSU. They were under coach Pete and were part of the success of BSU in the last 8 years.

I am not sure Boise can afford Harsin. ASU has enough in the coffers to pay Harsin fairly close to what Boise would probably offer, and we have a 2 million dollar buyout attached to him.

That's a lot of cash for an MWC school...even Boise to come up with.

I've seen its only $1 million. Either way BSU does have the $$ to get if they want him that bad.

We made a bowl game, so the buyout stays 1.75 million until a week after our bowl game. It drops to 1 million in Mid January.

Boise could probably pay for it...but the question is are they willing to pay that much, when coaches that are just as good will be cheaper.

Boise still has to pay the Big East exit fee I believe . There is also reports of a lot of debt for stadium and football facility upgrades . The new coach gets to face a tougher schedule. FSU and MSU are future home games along with MWC being better than the WAC .

I know when I went looking around the Boise board today, several of their fans were saying that Harsin's buyout was a no go.

Boise has money, but its not like it grows on trees in the MWC. On a side note, Harsin's buyout is nearly 1/5 of what ASU's total athletic budget was in 2009.

(12-06-2013 08:17 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...te-broncos

Pac 12 has a pretty strong coaching lineup

Agreed. I think this is a perfect fit for both parties as well. Chris Petersen finally leaving Boise makes sense...the illusion that Boise State would eventually work it's way into a BCS conference is all but dead.

(12-06-2013 08:49 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I'm totally perplexed by this. Maybe it wasn't true that Petersen turned down USC because I can't imagine why he would not take USC and then take U-Dub.

The prior head coach got fired on the tarmac at the airport and expectations in USC are out of control. Who would want to walk into that mess unless USC is their dream job?

This move makes complete sense, and for anyone that has been watching college football for more than 10 years understands that UW is a sleeping giant in the PAC.

So the glory days at Boise are over.

(12-06-2013 10:11 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 10:08 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 09:10 AM)TerryD Wrote:  That is a big middle finger to Southern Cal.

Might be the other way around. An article yesterday suggested that Haden didn't offer the USC job to Petersen because during their meeting it turned out they had significant disagreements about how the football program should be run and Haden didn't like what he heard.

Link?

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2013/12/05...sen-a.html

I can't say that I'm shocked in any fashion. Petersen stays in the NW.

Pac 12 just loaded with coaches. Mora, Sark, Rich Rod, Graham, Shaw, Leach, Petersen, etc.

(12-06-2013 11:34 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I can't say that I'm shocked in any fashion. Petersen stays in the NW.

Pac 12 just loaded with coaches. Mora, Sark, Rich Rod, Graham, Shaw, Leach, Petersen, etc.

Agreed. You've really got to up your game in the Pac if you want to keep up. Too early to judge MacIntyre & Dykes but I'm wondering if Whittingham can get it done anymore.

Live in Seattle rather than LA, cost of living is better, salary is probably comparable, stays in the region that he seems to love and knows how to recruit, much less scrutiny by media and fans... makes sense to me.

(12-06-2013 11:00 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  So the glory days at Boise are over.

Not making the MWC champ game in its first year of existence was the first real telling point that those days are over.

Peterson leaving may be the nail in the coffin.

They'll be a good program that will contend for the MWC title most years, but the unbeaten season strings and national relevance is likely a thing of the past.

I like the move by Peterson, its his territory and he likely got a glimpse of his future when Boise was blown out by Washington 38-6 earlier this year.

one thing that he'll like is he gets 4 OOC games next year- as they go to Hawaii. He gets Stanford, Arizona St, and UCLA at home in conference play, only real tough roadie is at Oregon- though dangerous ones at Arizona, Washington St. Roadies also Colorado, Cal. Other home game is Oregon St. Real favorable schedule I think.

(12-06-2013 11:45 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:00 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  So the glory days at Boise are over.

Not making the MWC champ game in its first year of existence was the first real telling point that those days are over.

Peterson leaving may be the nail in the coffin.

They'll be a good program that will contend for the MWC title most years, but the unbeaten season strings and national relevance is likely a thing of the past.

I like the move by Peterson, its his territory and he likely got a glimpse of his future when Boise was blown out by Washington 38-6 earlier this year.

I think it could get ugly for them. There are rumbling around the program of financial issues.

(12-06-2013 11:54 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:45 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:00 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  So the glory days at Boise are over.

Not making the MWC champ game in its first year of existence was the first real telling point that those days are over.

Peterson leaving may be the nail in the coffin.

They'll be a good program that will contend for the MWC title most years, but the unbeaten season strings and national relevance is likely a thing of the past.

I like the move by Peterson, its his territory and he likely got a glimpse of his future when Boise was blown out by Washington 38-6 earlier this year.

I think it could get ugly for them. There are rumbling around the program of financial issues.

He was getting paid like $3 mill a year or something...you can bet there are financial issues with a 35K stadium and having to finance upgrades. Coaches salaries, debt service, etc...and Boise has been playing some one and done's in the past to help pay for it all. Maybe we'll see Boise sign up to play at Michigan next for $1.5 mill.

(12-06-2013 09:43 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 09:37 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 09:22 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 08:34 AM)Maize Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 08:17 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...te-broncos

Pac 12 has a pretty strong coaching lineup

Huge blow to the MWC...Good news for the rest of the GoF especially the American.

BSU will be fine and get a great coach. Coach Bryan Harsin or Brent Pease may be on the phone with BSU. They were under coach Pete and were part of the success of BSU in the last 8 years.

I am not sure Boise can afford Harsin. ASU has enough in the coffers to pay Harsin fairly close to what Boise would probably offer, and we have a 2 million dollar buyout attached to him.

That's a lot of cash for an MWC school...even Boise to come up with.

I've seen its only $1 million. Either way BSU does have the $$ to get if they want him that bad.

Boise will be getting $750,000 from UW for Petersen's buyout (which UW can pay out of the $1.5 million USC owes them for Sarkisian's buyout).

(12-06-2013 11:41 AM)Hokie4Skins Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:34 AM)stever20 Wrote:  I can't say that I'm shocked in any fashion. Petersen stays in the NW.

Pac 12 just loaded with coaches. Mora, Sark, Rich Rod, Graham, Shaw, Leach, Petersen, etc.

Agreed. You've really got to up your game in the Pac if you want to keep up. Too early to judge MacIntyre & Dykes but I'm wondering if Whittingham can get it done anymore.

The talk here locally in SLC is that Coach Witt needs to get Utah back to a bowl game next year to hold on. The season ending injuries the last 2 years at the QB position have really hurt, so there is some patience.

Great move for Petersen, Washington has great facilities, Seattle is a fantastic city and he recruits the WA, OR, CA areas quite successfully.

Hard luck for Boise State, I think most were surprised how long Petersen stayed on, and the program and university benefited greatly. Boise, you had a hell of a great run, but the outlook is less than stellar.

MWC will be okay in the long run, but I'm not sure the media exposure will be there if Boise slips into a regular diet of 8-4 or 7-5 seasons (or worse). I forget the deal Boise had with the conference, but I thought it was unique to only them - that's not good for the MWC.

Good luck MWC, you're a solid G5 league but you may have put too much stock into smallish, mediocre school with a phenomenal football run. Hopefully Fresno State keeps its form going and the conference gets better results from USU, SDSU, CSU and AFA (those are decent programs that need to do well/better).

(12-06-2013 08:17 AM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...te-broncos

Pac 12 has a pretty strong coaching lineup

I approve of this hire.

(12-06-2013 11:54 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:45 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 11:00 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  So the glory days at Boise are over.

Not making the MWC champ game in its first year of existence was the first real telling point that those days are over.

Peterson leaving may be the nail in the coffin.

They'll be a good program that will contend for the MWC title most years, but the unbeaten season strings and national relevance is likely a thing of the past.

I like the move by Peterson, its his territory and he likely got a glimpse of his future when Boise was blown out by Washington 38-6 earlier this year.

I think it could get ugly for them. There are rumbling around the program of financial issues.

Boise or Washington?

(12-06-2013 12:52 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Boise or Washington?

Washington does not have any money problems, One of the few programs that can fund its AD entirely without tapping into the general fund.