wow…comments in the thread are brutal. You'd think we went 4-8 like we did in Lyle's first year. Folks we just went 9-3 with a new coaching staff. Not too long ago 9-3 would have been a dream season. Good lord, breathe people.

(12-08-2013 09:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  wow…comments in the thread are brutal. You'd think we went 4-8 like we did in Lyle's first year. Folks we just went 9-3 with a new coaching staff. Not too long ago 9-3 would have been a dream season. Good lord, breathe people.

I agree with your premise but would point out that only one win was against a team with a winning record. And 2 of the losses were to teams that won 3 combined conference games. So the 9-3 record is a bit of a misnomer. Not the end of the world but probably nothing to really celebrate given our opponents this year.

(12-08-2013 09:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  wow…comments in the thread are brutal. You'd think we went 4-8 like we did in Lyle's first year. Folks we just went 9-3 with a new coaching staff. Not too long ago 9-3 would have been a dream season. Good lord, breathe people.

I've found that if you're looking for optimistic (or even pragmatic) responses, Internet fan boards have not been very kind

I agree with you whole-heartily, say what you will about the schedule, this team was 9-3 with a lot of issues and they really looked good at the end of the year. Hell, they took a good UL team to the brink of defeat. Successful season in my book.

(Yeah, I know, we played awful teams. I don't care.)

(12-08-2013 10:57 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 09:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  wow…comments in the thread are brutal. You'd think we went 4-8 like we did in Lyle's first year. Folks we just went 9-3 with a new coaching staff. Not too long ago 9-3 would have been a dream season. Good lord, breathe people.

I've found that if you're looking for optimistic (or even pragmatic) responses, Internet fan boards have not been very kind

I agree with you whole-heartily, say what you will about the schedule, this team was 9-3 with a lot of issues and they really looked good at the end of the year. Hell, they took a good UL team to the brink of defeat. Successful season in my book.

(Yeah, I know, we played awful teams. I don't care.)

I try to stay away from the board the night/day after a hard loss. We're all fanatics and emotions can make for some regretable comments. I know the schedule was weak but in the programs 1st year under TT I am happy with 9 - 3 a Belk Bowl invitation and optimistic for the future.

(12-08-2013 09:33 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 09:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  wow…comments in the thread are brutal. You'd think we went 4-8 like we did in Lyle's first year. Folks we just went 9-3 with a new coaching staff. Not too long ago 9-3 would have been a dream season. Good lord, breathe people.

I agree with your premise but would point out that only one win was against a team with a winning record. And 2 of the losses were to teams that won 3 combined conference games. So the 9-3 record is a bit of a misnomer. Not the end of the world but probably nothing to really celebrate given our opponents this year.

It isn't a misnomer; it is what it is. If we pick up the win in the Belk Bowl, we'll have had ten wins in six of the last seven seasons - even if some of them came against crappy competition; even if we had no business losing to USF. That's a huge accomplishment no matter how hard or how easy the schedule.

9-3 in a transition year. Hard to complain much. Also, funny that people who were earlier in the season being eyores about the prospect of playing UofL and how bad we were going to get killed, are now whining about an OT loss. I didn't particularly like the play calls when we got first and goal late in the game or in the OT but we competed and the game just didn't go our way in the end. We played hard and it was a heck of a game. Didn't go our way. But 9-3 with a chance at ten wins should be something to be proud of. We've got a very good coach and I'm excited about the future. Hopefully Gran improves or moves on. But in Tubbs I trust.

(12-09-2013 09:30 AM)Murph29 Wrote:  9-3 in a transition year. Hard to complain much. Also, funny that people who were earlier in the season being eyores about the prospect of playing UofL and how bad we were going to get killed, are now whining about an OT loss. I didn't particularly like the play calls when we got first and goal late in the game or in the OT but we competed and the game just didn't go our way in the end. We played hard and it was a heck of a game. Didn't go our way. But 9-3 with a chance at ten wins should be something to be proud of. We've got a very good coach and I'm excited about the future. Hopefully Gran improves or moves on. But in Tubbs I trust.

Amen. I've said it before; I'll say it again: if you want to see a football game with perfect play calling and utter humiliation of your opponent, go play Madden or Tecmo Bowl.

(12-09-2013 09:54 AM)MickMack Wrote:  

(12-09-2013 09:30 AM)Murph29 Wrote:  9-3 in a transition year. Hard to complain much. Also, funny that people who were earlier in the season being eyores about the prospect of playing UofL and how bad we were going to get killed, are now whining about an OT loss. I didn't particularly like the play calls when we got first and goal late in the game or in the OT but we competed and the game just didn't go our way in the end. We played hard and it was a heck of a game. Didn't go our way. But 9-3 with a chance at ten wins should be something to be proud of. We've got a very good coach and I'm excited about the future. Hopefully Gran improves or moves on. But in Tubbs I trust.

Amen. I've said it before; I'll say it again: if you want to see a football game with perfect play calling and utter humiliation of your opponent, go play Madden or Tecmo Bowl.

Or watch Ol Ball Coach during his FL days.

(12-09-2013 08:57 AM)Crewdogz Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 10:57 PM)Cataclysmo Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 09:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  wow…comments in the thread are brutal. You'd think we went 4-8 like we did in Lyle's first year. Folks we just went 9-3 with a new coaching staff. Not too long ago 9-3 would have been a dream season. Good lord, breathe people.

I've found that if you're looking for optimistic (or even pragmatic) responses, Internet fan boards have not been very kind

I agree with you whole-heartily, say what you will about the schedule, this team was 9-3 with a lot of issues and they really looked good at the end of the year. Hell, they took a good UL team to the brink of defeat. Successful season in my book.

(Yeah, I know, we played awful teams. I don't care.)

I try to stay away from the board the night/day after a hard loss. We're all fanatics and emotions can make for some regretable comments. I know the schedule was weak but in the programs 1st year under TT I am happy with 9 - 3 a Belk Bowl invitation and optimistic for the future.

I agree and I include myself in this group. I tend to let my emotions get the best of me and don't think rational immediately following a loss. But after letting it sink in for a few days, I am okay with a 9-3 season. ( I will be VERY happy with a 10 win season). This was a transition year with lots of obstacles. The schedule was soft, but who cares. It beats the alternative. I'd hate to be 4-8 with this schedule. If I can recall, many people thought BJ would come in and he would pick up right where Kelly left off. Well, as we learned, it's alot easier said than done. I think the losses to Illinois and USF they were still trying to find themselves. Hopefully things continue to move upward from here.

(12-09-2013 09:27 AM)MickMack Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 09:33 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 09:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  wow…comments in the thread are brutal. You'd think we went 4-8 like we did in Lyle's first year. Folks we just went 9-3 with a new coaching staff. Not too long ago 9-3 would have been a dream season. Good lord, breathe people.

I agree with your premise but would point out that only one win was against a team with a winning record. And 2 of the losses were to teams that won 3 combined conference games. So the 9-3 record is a bit of a misnomer. Not the end of the world but probably nothing to really celebrate given our opponents this year.

It isn't a misnomer; it is what it is. If we pick up the win in the Belk Bowl, we'll have had ten wins in six of the last seven seasons - even if some of them came against crappy competition; even if we had no business losing to USF. That's a huge accomplishment no matter how hard or how easy the schedule.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm not upset with the season, rather I'm not enthusiastic. When many of your wins are against teams that are literally worse than a huge chunk of FCS programs (Temple, UConn, Memphis, Miami, NW St., Purdue) it's hard to get excited about that. And when you lose to teams who finish in the basement of their conference (Illinois) or get blown out by an FCS program (USF), that is an underachievement for this program. I will agree that if we beat UNC in the bowl that would be a solid win. That would be two solid wins on the year - Houston and UNC. My definition of "huge accomplishment" is just different than yours I guess. Especially for where this program has been in recent years.

I've held off posting. Primarily, since I was extremely disappointed in losing to uofl. Taking a few days to distance myself from the emotion of losing a rivalry game and time to look back gave me a small bit of clarity.

My pre-season expectations were 12-0 or 11-1 at worst. I came up with this prediction from due to how easy the sched looked and that we were receiving a veteran coaching staff.

I will take 9-3. I under estimated the coaching transition. The season was filled with tons of injuries, the death of a player, two additional one's hospitalized, and a key loss at qb during a game.

IMO we were a couple plays away from defeating uofl. I thought the team left everything on the field. Kay gave one of the gritiest performances I have ever seen. Belk is not bad. Go out and beat a AAC to get us to 10 wins. Winning 10 games is still a benchmark for success in college football. I see a bright future for UC Football, with the exception being our conf affiliation. As always, I will support my Cats, cheer them onto victory, promote the program/school to everyone I run into, and look forward with pride to the next step towards growing the program.

(12-09-2013 01:46 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  I've held off posting. Primarily, since I was extremely disappointed in losing to uofl. Taking a few days to distance myself from the emotion of losing a rivalry game and time to look back gave me a small bit of clarity.

My pre-season expectations were 12-0 or 11-1 at worst. I came up with this prediction from due to how easy the sched looked and that we were receiving a veteran coaching staff.

I will take 9-3. I under estimated the coaching transition. The season was filled with tons of injuries, the death of a player, two additional one's hospitalized, and a key loss at qb during a game.

IMO we were a couple plays away from defeating uofl. I thought the team left everything on the field. Kay gave one of the gritiest performances I have ever seen. Belk is not bad. Go out and beat a AAC to get us to 10 wins. Winning 10 games is still a benchmark for success in college football. I see a bright future for UC Football, with the exception being our conf affiliation. As always, I will support my Cats, cheer them onto victory, promote the program/school to everyone I run into, and look forward with pride to the next step towards growing the program.

This season has been a story of grit and determination and Kay is the lead. As I watched the UL game, all I could think was, "damn, he's a tough s.o.b." At times I thought the duct tape would come loose and he'd just crumble into a pile of parts. He's been unbelievable.

(12-09-2013 12:07 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(12-09-2013 09:27 AM)MickMack Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 09:33 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 09:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  wow…comments in the thread are brutal. You'd think we went 4-8 like we did in Lyle's first year. Folks we just went 9-3 with a new coaching staff. Not too long ago 9-3 would have been a dream season. Good lord, breathe people.

I agree with your premise but would point out that only one win was against a team with a winning record. And 2 of the losses were to teams that won 3 combined conference games. So the 9-3 record is a bit of a misnomer. Not the end of the world but probably nothing to really celebrate given our opponents this year.

It isn't a misnomer; it is what it is. If we pick up the win in the Belk Bowl, we'll have had ten wins in six of the last seven seasons - even if some of them came against crappy competition; even if we had no business losing to USF. That's a huge accomplishment no matter how hard or how easy the schedule.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm not upset with the season, rather I'm not enthusiastic. When many of your wins are against teams that are literally worse than a huge chunk of FCS programs (Temple, UConn, Memphis, Miami, NW St., Purdue) it's hard to get excited about that. And when you lose to teams who finish in the basement of their conference (Illinois) or get blown out by an FCS program (USF), that is an underachievement for this program. I will agree that if we beat UNC in the bowl that would be a solid win. That would be two solid wins on the year - Houston and UNC. My definition of "huge accomplishment" is just different than yours I guess. Especially for where this program has been in recent years.

Not sure how we got blown out by USF when we lost by 6 on the road. But I'll agree that USF and Illinois were not good losses and games we had every reason to think we should have won. That said, both were early on and I think there's room for enthuisiasm though when you consider we went on to win 6 in a row including 3 of those on the road and nearly won 7 in a row to finish out the season. A solid bowl bid and a chance for 10 wins should be reasons for enthusiasm.

(12-09-2013 01:58 PM)MickMack Wrote:  

(12-09-2013 01:46 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  I've held off posting. Primarily, since I was extremely disappointed in losing to uofl. Taking a few days to distance myself from the emotion of losing a rivalry game and time to look back gave me a small bit of clarity.

My pre-season expectations were 12-0 or 11-1 at worst. I came up with this prediction from due to how easy the sched looked and that we were receiving a veteran coaching staff.

I will take 9-3. I under estimated the coaching transition. The season was filled with tons of injuries, the death of a player, two additional one's hospitalized, and a key loss at qb during a game.

IMO we were a couple plays away from defeating uofl. I thought the team left everything on the field. Kay gave one of the gritiest performances I have ever seen. Belk is not bad. Go out and beat a AAC to get us to 10 wins. Winning 10 games is still a benchmark for success in college football. I see a bright future for UC Football, with the exception being our conf affiliation. As always, I will support my Cats, cheer them onto victory, promote the program/school to everyone I run into, and look forward with pride to the next step towards growing the program.

This season has been a story of grit and determination and Kay is the lead. As I watched the UL game, all I could think was, "damn, he's a tough s.o.b." At times I thought the duct tape would come loose and he'd just crumble into a pile of parts. He's been unbelievable.

Exactly. I think it goes for the entire team. I know we're not supposed to discuss injuries here, but suffice it to say that sometimes this squad has looked more like a MASH unit than a football team during the course of the season.

(12-09-2013 02:11 PM)Murph29 Wrote:  

(12-09-2013 12:07 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(12-09-2013 09:27 AM)MickMack Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 09:33 PM)Racinejake Wrote:  

(12-08-2013 09:09 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  wow…comments in the thread are brutal. You'd think we went 4-8 like we did in Lyle's first year. Folks we just went 9-3 with a new coaching staff. Not too long ago 9-3 would have been a dream season. Good lord, breathe people.

I agree with your premise but would point out that only one win was against a team with a winning record. And 2 of the losses were to teams that won 3 combined conference games. So the 9-3 record is a bit of a misnomer. Not the end of the world but probably nothing to really celebrate given our opponents this year.

It isn't a misnomer; it is what it is. If we pick up the win in the Belk Bowl, we'll have had ten wins in six of the last seven seasons - even if some of them came against crappy competition; even if we had no business losing to USF. That's a huge accomplishment no matter how hard or how easy the schedule.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I'm not upset with the season, rather I'm not enthusiastic. When many of your wins are against teams that are literally worse than a huge chunk of FCS programs (Temple, UConn, Memphis, Miami, NW St., Purdue) it's hard to get excited about that. And when you lose to teams who finish in the basement of their conference (Illinois) or get blown out by an FCS program (USF), that is an underachievement for this program. I will agree that if we beat UNC in the bowl that would be a solid win. That would be two solid wins on the year - Houston and UNC. My definition of "huge accomplishment" is just different than yours I guess. Especially for where this program has been in recent years.

Not sure how we got blown out by USF when we lost by 6 on the road. But I'll agree that USF and Illinois were not good losses and games we had every reason to think we should have won. That said, both were early on and I think there's room for enthuisiasm though when you consider we went on to win 6 in a row including 3 of those on the road and nearly won 7 in a row to finish out the season. A solid bowl bid and a chance for 10 wins should be reasons for enthusiasm.

My statement was to say that we got beat by a team who was blown out by an FCS team. USF lost to McNeese by 32 points (and then to FAU by 18). I agree that we definitely played better the last 7 games of the season. I would be more enthusiastic if 5 of those 7 teams weren't outside of Sagarin's top 100. But we did get a victory at Houston (#45) and have a chance at UNC (#48). Two solid (yet unspectacular) victories in our last 3 games would at least be a positive.

To reiterate, that Kay is one tough hombre.

We have been blessed with tough mother effers at the QB position the last several years. Ben Mauk, Dustin Grutza, Zach Collaros, and now Brendan Kay. All have ++ toughness.

(12-09-2013 06:52 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote:  We have been blessed with tough mother effers at the QB position the last several years. Ben Mauk, Dustin Grutza, Zach Collaros, and now Brendan Kay. All have ++ toughness.

I'd give some props to Pike as well. He fractured his arm two years in a row and came back to play.

(12-09-2013 06:35 PM)beck Wrote:  To reiterate, that Kay is one tough hombre.

Agree

instead of griping about a 9-3 season we should celebrate another good year and hopefully, another bowl win. Too boot, what a performance by Brendon Kay this year. Kid played hurt, played tough, and was a leader. I applaud the season Kay had and the things he battled through to make it happen.

And we also lost Munchie to a catastrophic leg injury and a player died….along with a new coaching staff. Oh, and besides all that we won 9 games.

I call this year a winner.

now let's beat UNC

(12-09-2013 10:11 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-09-2013 06:35 PM)beck Wrote:  To reiterate, that Kay is one tough hombre.

Agree

instead of griping about a 9-3 season we should celebrate another good year and hopefully, another bowl win. Too boot, what a performance by Brendon Kay this year. Kid played hurt, played tough, and was a leader. I applaud the season Kay had and the things he battled through to make it happen.

And we also lost Munchie to a catastrophic leg injury and a player died….along with a new coaching staff. Oh, and besides all that we won 9 games.

I call this year a winner.

now let's beat UNC

Amen brother. Nice summary.