AAC officially announced its bowl arrangements for 2014 and beyond.

In two AAC bowls, AAC will play ACC in Military Bowl and SEC in Birmingham Compass Bowl.

AAC will share its remaining 6 bowls with CUSA and other NonBCS conferences MAC, SBC, and MWC. These 6 shared bowls include:

Beef O'Brady
Bell Helicopter
Hawaii
Boca Raton
Bahamas
New Orleans

Detailed summary in link:
http://theamerican.org/news/2013/12/5/FB...34743.aspx

I'm not sure that compares favorably to the MWC, MAC or CUSA.

It doesn't surprise me, but it comes as a cold, hard reminder that the American is no different (better or worse) than the other G5 conferences. It will be a dog fight every year to see who from the kiddie table will get the right to sit at the very end of the adult table.

once again, trollgrass fails to mention the AAC has the Armed Forces Bowl vs Big 12 in 16, and 18- and CUSA in '14. in '15,'17,'19, got Hawaii Bowl vs MWC.

Trollgrass is right about one things though,the AAC bowl lineup looks a whole lot like the C-USA one and while it might be a little bit better not enough to make any real difference.

(12-05-2013 02:05 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Trollgrass is right about one things though,the AAC bowl lineup looks a whole lot like the C-USA one and while it might be a little bit better not enough to make any real difference.

Slightly better, though, and the AAC will have a better shot at the Access Bowl.

C-USA-
Bahamma's- 3 years vs MAC, AAC, SBC
Beef o brady's- 3 years vs AAC
Boca Raton- 4 years vs MAC 1 yr, AAC 3 yrs
New Mexico- all years vs MWC
Heart of Dallas- 3 vs Big Ten, 3 vs Big 12
Miami Beach- 3 years vs AAC
New Orleans- 3 years vs SBC
Hawaii- 3 years vs MWC

So I see Heart of Dallas as the only one against P5 teams for CUSA. AAC will have at least 2 P5 matchups every year, with some years up to 4. Huge difference there.

(12-05-2013 02:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  C-USA-
Bahamma's- 3 years vs MAC, AAC, SBC
Beef o brady's- 3 years vs AAC
Boca Raton- 4 years vs MAC 1 yr, AAC 3 yrs
New Mexico- all years vs MWC
Heart of Dallas- 3 vs Big Ten, 3 vs Big 12
Miami Beach- 3 years vs AAC
New Orleans- 3 years vs SBC
Hawaii- 3 years vs MWC

So I see Heart of Dallas as the only one against P5 teams for CUSA. AAC will have at least 2 P5 matchups every year, with some years up to 4. Huge difference there.

It's not really, because I wouldn't assume that the Birmingham bowl is going to have a P5 opponent every year. If the SEC does what it traditionally does they will have 3-4 teams in the access/playoff games per year leaving that bowl in huge danger of not being filled. Yes it has an ACC backup but that's going to be like pick 10 or 11 and that's not real likely to be there either. I think the Military will have an ACC team most likely every year, but that's the only one I'd guarantee. For the group of schools each league had to work with I think C-USA pieced together as good a bowl lineup as it possibly could have expected and the AAC on the other end probably did as bad as it possibly could have.

(12-05-2013 12:42 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  AAC officially announced its bowl arrangements for 2014 and beyond.

In two AAC bowls, AAC will play ACC in Military Bowl and SEC in Birmingham Compass Bowl.

AAC will share its remaining 6 bowls with CUSA and other NonBCS conferences MAC, SBC, and MWC. These 6 shared bowls include:

Beef O'Brady
Bell Helicopter
Hawaii
Boca Raton
Bahamas
New Orleans

Detailed summary in link:
http://theamerican.org/news/2013/12/5/FB...34743.aspx

Using those guidelines, it'd be just as accurate to say the AAC shares half its' bowl games with the ACC or a over a third with the SEC...possible, but not remotely probable.

Using the OP's parameters (including backup agreements), the AAC could play at least 5 P5 opponents annually plus an additional one biennially over the life of the contracts. The MWC and CUSA could play 2 yearly plus one more in two of those years until 2019. The MAC could play 1 game annually (Detroit?) against P5 competition. While theoretically possible...during apocalyptic times, it's not gonna happen.

(12-05-2013 02:27 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 02:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  C-USA-
Bahamma's- 3 years vs MAC, AAC, SBC
Beef o brady's- 3 years vs AAC
Boca Raton- 4 years vs MAC 1 yr, AAC 3 yrs
New Mexico- all years vs MWC
Heart of Dallas- 3 vs Big Ten, 3 vs Big 12
Miami Beach- 3 years vs AAC
New Orleans- 3 years vs SBC
Hawaii- 3 years vs MWC

So I see Heart of Dallas as the only one against P5 teams for CUSA. AAC will have at least 2 P5 matchups every year, with some years up to 4. Huge difference there.

It's not really, because I wouldn't assume that the Birmingham bowl is going to have a P5 opponent every year. If the SEC does what it traditionally does they will have 3-4 teams in the access/playoff games per year leaving that bowl in huge danger of not being filled. Yes it has an ACC backup but that's going to be like pick 10 or 11 and that's not real likely to be there either. I think the Military will have an ACC team most likely every year, but that's the only one I'd guarantee. For the group of schools each league had to work with I think C-USA pieced together as good a bowl lineup as it possibly could have expected and the AAC on the other end probably did as bad as it possibly could have.

Does Notre Dame have access to ACC bowls like they did in the Big East? That could help with filling the Compass bowl. ND would never play in Birmingham, but they could push the 10th place ACC team down a level. I will LOL if it's Pitt again.

(12-05-2013 02:46 PM)MechaKnight Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 02:27 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 02:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  C-USA-
Bahamma's- 3 years vs MAC, AAC, SBC
Beef o brady's- 3 years vs AAC
Boca Raton- 4 years vs MAC 1 yr, AAC 3 yrs
New Mexico- all years vs MWC
Heart of Dallas- 3 vs Big Ten, 3 vs Big 12
Miami Beach- 3 years vs AAC
New Orleans- 3 years vs SBC
Hawaii- 3 years vs MWC

So I see Heart of Dallas as the only one against P5 teams for CUSA. AAC will have at least 2 P5 matchups every year, with some years up to 4. Huge difference there.

It's not really, because I wouldn't assume that the Birmingham bowl is going to have a P5 opponent every year. If the SEC does what it traditionally does they will have 3-4 teams in the access/playoff games per year leaving that bowl in huge danger of not being filled. Yes it has an ACC backup but that's going to be like pick 10 or 11 and that's not real likely to be there either. I think the Military will have an ACC team most likely every year, but that's the only one I'd guarantee. For the group of schools each league had to work with I think C-USA pieced together as good a bowl lineup as it possibly could have expected and the AAC on the other end probably did as bad as it possibly could have.

Does Notre Dame have access to ACC bowls like they did in the Big East? That could help with filling the Compass bowl. ND would never play in Birmingham, but they could push the 10th place ACC team down a level. I will LOL if it's Pitt again.

Yes, ND will have access to all the ACC bowls. The counterpoint to it though is ND will be playing 5 ACC teams- so maybe a team doesn't get bowl eligible that would have been otherwise.

(12-05-2013 02:27 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 02:13 PM)stever20 Wrote:  C-USA-
Bahamma's- 3 years vs MAC, AAC, SBC
Beef o brady's- 3 years vs AAC
Boca Raton- 4 years vs MAC 1 yr, AAC 3 yrs
New Mexico- all years vs MWC
Heart of Dallas- 3 vs Big Ten, 3 vs Big 12
Miami Beach- 3 years vs AAC
New Orleans- 3 years vs SBC
Hawaii- 3 years vs MWC

So I see Heart of Dallas as the only one against P5 teams for CUSA. AAC will have at least 2 P5 matchups every year, with some years up to 4. Huge difference there.

It's not really, because I wouldn't assume that the Birmingham bowl is going to have a P5 opponent every year. If the SEC does what it traditionally does they will have 3-4 teams in the access/playoff games per year leaving that bowl in huge danger of not being filled.

I agree and think the HOD/AF Big 12 slot has about the same probability of going unfulfilled. Has HOD announced a secondary tie in? On paper, the conferences with the best chances for annual G5/P5 match ups appear to be the MWC and AAC.

It would have the same probability because it alternates years. it's 7th selection.

What I like about CUSA's bowls is their balanced geographical dispersion for both the east and west divisions.

AAC bowls are east centric, making it tough for AAC/West fans to travel.

(12-05-2013 03:55 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  What I like about CUSA's bowls is their balanced geographical dispersion for both the east and west divisions.

AAC bowls are east centric, making it tough for AAC/West fans to travel.

Here you have a point. The OP represents selective editing.

(12-05-2013 04:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 03:55 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  What I like about CUSA's bowls is their balanced geographical dispersion for both the east and west divisions.

AAC bowls are east centric, making it tough for AAC/West fans to travel.

Here you have a point. The OP represents selective editing.

Given CUSA's accomplishments and quiet determination, I don't have to selective edit.

(12-05-2013 03:50 PM)stever20 Wrote:  It would have the same probability because it alternates years. it's 7th selection.

Right, I meant about the same probability as the SEC filling the Birmingham bowl. The release lists CUSA as the Big 12's AF backup which got me wondering who their back up is in the HOD. IIRC, the Big 12 commish alluded to the fact that they might not always be able to place a team when the HOD deal was first announced.

(12-05-2013 02:05 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Trollgrass is right about one things though,the AAC bowl lineup looks a whole lot like the C-USA one and while it might be a little bit better not enough to make any real difference.

American has 3x as many bowl games vs P5 schools over the next 6 years as C-USA.

(12-05-2013 04:34 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 04:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 03:55 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  What I like about CUSA's bowls is their balanced geographical dispersion for both the east and west divisions.

AAC bowls are east centric, making it tough for AAC/West fans to travel.

Here you have a point. The OP represents selective editing.

Given CUSA's accomplishments and quiet determination, I don't have to selective edit.

Then why do you do it?

(12-05-2013 06:44 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 04:34 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 04:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 03:55 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  What I like about CUSA's bowls is their balanced geographical dispersion for both the east and west divisions.

AAC bowls are east centric, making it tough for AAC/West fans to travel.

Here you have a point. The OP represents selective editing.

Given CUSA's accomplishments and quiet determination, I don't have to selective edit.

Then why do you do it?

Yeah. What's up with that?

(12-05-2013 06:44 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 04:34 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 04:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 03:55 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  What I like about CUSA's bowls is their balanced geographical dispersion for both the east and west divisions.

AAC bowls are east centric, making it tough for AAC/West fans to travel.

Here you have a point. The OP represents selective editing.

Given CUSA's accomplishments and quiet determination, I don't have to selective edit.

Then why do you do it?

I don't. Your statement assumes this is a AAC board.