(12-05-2013 08:13 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 11:50 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 11:17 PM)Hoosier Hysteria Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 10:52 PM)Maize Wrote:  From the article:

Top 50 College Football Teams: TV Ratings

There are 12 SEC teams in the Top 25, including 7 teams in the Top 10. Unsurprisingly, Alabama is king of the mountain. SEC newbies Texas A&M and Missouri are ranked 3rd and 21st respectively. Their rival Big 12 schools Texas (29) and Kansas (74) did not crack the Top 25. Big 12 replacements TCU and West Virginia ranked 49th and 51st.

Note that ratings from certain networks are unavailable (e.g., Big Ten Network, Pac-12 Network, ESPNEWS, Longhorn Network), and this boosts averages for teams playing on those networks since ratings are generally low (see Longhorn Network). Teams like Northwestern benefit from having a low number of rated games since only their most attractive matchups with opponents like Ohio State are picked up by top TV stations.

Also from the article:

Conference TV Ratings

The SEC has the strongest TV viewership in college football. The distance between the SEC and runner-up Big 10 is substantial, and another wide gap exists between the Big 10 and other major conferences. Remember that each conference game counts twice so "a rising tide lifts all boats," especially a Crimson one.

Rank Conference Avg Viewersa Avg Ratingb # of Rated Gms
1 SEC 3,596,643 2.2 114
2 Big 10 2,643,794 1.7 80
3 ACC 1,918,042 1.2 84
4 Pac-12 1,799,596 1.1 74
5 Big 12 1,571,833 1.0 90
6 AAC 1,040,547 0.7 50
7 MWC 1,017,701 0.7 45
8 C-USA 825,796 0.5 40
9 MAC 765,792 0.5 32
10 Sun Belt 603,694 0.4 18

Here is the link:

http://www.goodbullhunting.com/2013/12/4...m-missouri

I know the BTN shows 3 games each Saturday. It seems like every BIG fan has the BTN or they would miss a lot of games. So BIG #'s probably much higher but doubt it's as high as SEC.

So you think that a game on the BTN is going to attract more viewers than the alternative (ESPN/FOX/ABC/NBC)? Keep in mind that every serious collegiate sports fan has access to ESPN, regardless of which conference they like the most. My money is that the B1G's overall ratings are noticeably weaker than what's reported here, but still ahead of the ACC.

What he is saying is that the BTN numbers would be added to the number listed for the Big Ten so that the Big Ten numbers for viewership are actually higher than the number listed rather than lower as you wish to say they would be due to your bias.

I am sorry but it is widely accepted that the Big Ten actually draws numbers like that. That is probably the reason why ESPN is pushing their people so hard to denigrate the Big Ten in order to show the Big Ten negotiators what would happen if they turn away from ESPN.

Sorry, despite the ACC's large footprint population, much of it does not care about ACC football. For whatever reason, that is the case. Personally I think it is because much of the ACC's population is actually in the North. That is why ACC basketball is the biggest deal in college basketball.

Concerning ACC football, you are incorrect. In the South, college football, whether ACC or SEC, is important. Whether Virginia or Clemson, fans are aware of college football in the South.

Concerning you statement that the "ACC's population is actually in the North"- Wha.."? Once, again, you are incorrect. Washington (DC), Richmond, Norfolk, Raleigh, Charlotte, Atlanta- These are Southern cities.
I suppose you could argue that graduates move to Philadelphia, New York, and Boston. I suppose the addition of Pittsburgh, Syracuse, and Boston College could expand the fanbase northward.

(12-05-2013 03:23 PM)orangefan Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 02:01 PM)perimeterpost Wrote:  these calculations don't look correct. The MAC did not have 32 televised games, according to the source link.

I believe these are television appearances, not games. A game between 2 MAC schools would be 2 appearances.

still doesn't add up.

The original source was an A&M message board poster who did it on a spreadsheet. So there's plenty of room for manual error. There's even some room for interpretation on how to count some of these games like the regional broadcasts with ABC and ESPN2 or the A&M game I mentioned above that was split between two networks. Texas had a game split by 3 hours and between FS1 and FS2.

(12-06-2013 03:11 PM)chess Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 08:13 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 11:50 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 11:17 PM)Hoosier Hysteria Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 10:52 PM)Maize Wrote:  From the article:

Top 50 College Football Teams: TV Ratings

There are 12 SEC teams in the Top 25, including 7 teams in the Top 10. Unsurprisingly, Alabama is king of the mountain. SEC newbies Texas A&M and Missouri are ranked 3rd and 21st respectively. Their rival Big 12 schools Texas (29) and Kansas (74) did not crack the Top 25. Big 12 replacements TCU and West Virginia ranked 49th and 51st.

Note that ratings from certain networks are unavailable (e.g., Big Ten Network, Pac-12 Network, ESPNEWS, Longhorn Network), and this boosts averages for teams playing on those networks since ratings are generally low (see Longhorn Network). Teams like Northwestern benefit from having a low number of rated games since only their most attractive matchups with opponents like Ohio State are picked up by top TV stations.

Also from the article:

Conference TV Ratings

The SEC has the strongest TV viewership in college football. The distance between the SEC and runner-up Big 10 is substantial, and another wide gap exists between the Big 10 and other major conferences. Remember that each conference game counts twice so "a rising tide lifts all boats," especially a Crimson one.

Rank Conference Avg Viewersa Avg Ratingb # of Rated Gms
1 SEC 3,596,643 2.2 114
2 Big 10 2,643,794 1.7 80
3 ACC 1,918,042 1.2 84
4 Pac-12 1,799,596 1.1 74
5 Big 12 1,571,833 1.0 90
6 AAC 1,040,547 0.7 50
7 MWC 1,017,701 0.7 45
8 C-USA 825,796 0.5 40
9 MAC 765,792 0.5 32
10 Sun Belt 603,694 0.4 18

Here is the link:

http://www.goodbullhunting.com/2013/12/4...m-missouri

I know the BTN shows 3 games each Saturday. It seems like every BIG fan has the BTN or they would miss a lot of games. So BIG #'s probably much higher but doubt it's as high as SEC.

So you think that a game on the BTN is going to attract more viewers than the alternative (ESPN/FOX/ABC/NBC)? Keep in mind that every serious collegiate sports fan has access to ESPN, regardless of which conference they like the most. My money is that the B1G's overall ratings are noticeably weaker than what's reported here, but still ahead of the ACC.

What he is saying is that the BTN numbers would be added to the number listed for the Big Ten so that the Big Ten numbers for viewership are actually higher than the number listed rather than lower as you wish to say they would be due to your bias.

I am sorry but it is widely accepted that the Big Ten actually draws numbers like that. That is probably the reason why ESPN is pushing their people so hard to denigrate the Big Ten in order to show the Big Ten negotiators what would happen if they turn away from ESPN.

Sorry, despite the ACC's large footprint population, much of it does not care about ACC football. For whatever reason, that is the case. Personally I think it is because much of the ACC's population is actually in the North. That is why ACC basketball is the biggest deal in college basketball.

Concerning ACC football, you are incorrect. In the South, college football, whether ACC or SEC, is important. Whether Virginia or Clemson, fans are aware of college football in the South.

Concerning you statement that the "ACC's population is actually in the North"- Wha.."? Once, again, you are incorrect. Washington (DC), Richmond, Norfolk, Raleigh, Charlotte, Atlanta- These are Southern cities.
I suppose you could argue that graduates move to Philadelphia, New York, and Boston. I suppose the addition of Pittsburgh, Syracuse, and Boston College could expand the fanbase northward.

The population numbers that are bragged about by ACC folks are entirely inflated by the Northern portion of the conference which is where the conference has expanded the most. Yes of course there is the base population area but the area I posted of is that which has pushed the ACC blueprint population to the point of what the ACC now brags about. When it comes to football viewership, much of that new area isn't exactly heavy college football viewers.

(12-06-2013 07:25 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-06-2013 03:11 PM)chess Wrote:  

(12-05-2013 08:13 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 11:50 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 11:17 PM)Hoosier Hysteria Wrote:  I know the BTN shows 3 games each Saturday. It seems like every BIG fan has the BTN or they would miss a lot of games. So BIG #'s probably much higher but doubt it's as high as SEC.

So you think that a game on the BTN is going to attract more viewers than the alternative (ESPN/FOX/ABC/NBC)? Keep in mind that every serious collegiate sports fan has access to ESPN, regardless of which conference they like the most. My money is that the B1G's overall ratings are noticeably weaker than what's reported here, but still ahead of the ACC.

What he is saying is that the BTN numbers would be added to the number listed for the Big Ten so that the Big Ten numbers for viewership are actually higher than the number listed rather than lower as you wish to say they would be due to your bias.

I am sorry but it is widely accepted that the Big Ten actually draws numbers like that. That is probably the reason why ESPN is pushing their people so hard to denigrate the Big Ten in order to show the Big Ten negotiators what would happen if they turn away from ESPN.

Sorry, despite the ACC's large footprint population, much of it does not care about ACC football. For whatever reason, that is the case. Personally I think it is because much of the ACC's population is actually in the North. That is why ACC basketball is the biggest deal in college basketball.

Concerning ACC football, you are incorrect. In the South, college football, whether ACC or SEC, is important. Whether Virginia or Clemson, fans are aware of college football in the South.

Concerning you statement that the "ACC's population is actually in the North"- Wha.."? Once, again, you are incorrect. Washington (DC), Richmond, Norfolk, Raleigh, Charlotte, Atlanta- These are Southern cities.
I suppose you could argue that graduates move to Philadelphia, New York, and Boston. I suppose the addition of Pittsburgh, Syracuse, and Boston College could expand the fanbase northward.

The population numbers that are bragged about by ACC folks are entirely inflated by the Northern portion of the conference which is where the conference has expanded the most. Yes of course there is the base population area but the area I posted of is that which has pushed the ACC blueprint population to the point of what the ACC now brags about. When it comes to football viewership, much of that new area isn't exactly heavy college football viewers.

I think the ACC knows that. It's not depending on the northeast for huge football numbers, but it will for basketball.

(12-05-2013 08:13 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 11:50 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 11:17 PM)Hoosier Hysteria Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 10:52 PM)Maize Wrote:  From the article:

Top 50 College Football Teams: TV Ratings

There are 12 SEC teams in the Top 25, including 7 teams in the Top 10. Unsurprisingly, Alabama is king of the mountain. SEC newbies Texas A&M and Missouri are ranked 3rd and 21st respectively. Their rival Big 12 schools Texas (29) and Kansas (74) did not crack the Top 25. Big 12 replacements TCU and West Virginia ranked 49th and 51st.

Note that ratings from certain networks are unavailable (e.g., Big Ten Network, Pac-12 Network, ESPNEWS, Longhorn Network), and this boosts averages for teams playing on those networks since ratings are generally low (see Longhorn Network). Teams like Northwestern benefit from having a low number of rated games since only their most attractive matchups with opponents like Ohio State are picked up by top TV stations.

Also from the article:

Conference TV Ratings

The SEC has the strongest TV viewership in college football. The distance between the SEC and runner-up Big 10 is substantial, and another wide gap exists between the Big 10 and other major conferences. Remember that each conference game counts twice so "a rising tide lifts all boats," especially a Crimson one.

Rank Conference Avg Viewersa Avg Ratingb # of Rated Gms
1 SEC 3,596,643 2.2 114
2 Big 10 2,643,794 1.7 80
3 ACC 1,918,042 1.2 84
4 Pac-12 1,799,596 1.1 74
5 Big 12 1,571,833 1.0 90
6 AAC 1,040,547 0.7 50
7 MWC 1,017,701 0.7 45
8 C-USA 825,796 0.5 40
9 MAC 765,792 0.5 32
10 Sun Belt 603,694 0.4 18

Here is the link:

http://www.goodbullhunting.com/2013/12/4...m-missouri

I know the BTN shows 3 games each Saturday. It seems like every BIG fan has the BTN or they would miss a lot of games. So BIG #'s probably much higher but doubt it's as high as SEC.

So you think that a game on the BTN is going to attract more viewers than the alternative (ESPN/FOX/ABC/NBC)? Keep in mind that every serious collegiate sports fan has access to ESPN, regardless of which conference they like the most. My money is that the B1G's overall ratings are noticeably weaker than what's reported here, but still ahead of the ACC.

What he is saying is that the BTN numbers would be added to the number listed for the Big Ten so that the Big Ten numbers for viewership are actually higher than the number listed rather than lower as you wish to say they would be due to your bias.

I am sorry but it is widely accepted that the Big Ten actually draws numbers like that. That is probably the reason why ESPN is pushing their people so hard to denigrate the Big Ten in order to show the Big Ten negotiators what would happen if they turn away from ESPN.

Sorry, despite the ACC's large footprint population, much of it does not care about ACC football. For whatever reason, that is the case. Personally I think it is because much of the ACC's population is actually in the North. That is why ACC basketball is the biggest deal in college basketball.

So He1nous your are saying that loving basketball = Yankee
and loving football = Southerner. Well great! Michigan and Ohio State it's time for you guys to get the heck out of the Big 10 and join the SEC where you belong. Obviously you are no longer Northern schools and would be a perfect cultural fit in the SEC. And we'll have room for you too. We just booted Kentucky and put Florida on probation.