(12-04-2013 01:13 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Do they really call themselves UNL or just UN?

from my understanding of it they have called themselves UNL for a while but its been highlighted by the b10 move

NU is a byproduct of the b8 where all the flagships do that. OU, CU, KU, MU.....

NU is already used by northwestern so they used UNL more frequently now

their website is UNL.edu

(12-04-2013 01:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 10:25 AM)LSUtah Wrote:  Colorado was much more successful as a Big 8 team with no precense in Texas than they ever were in the Big-12. The same could be said for Nebraska to some degree. Arkansas has has considerable success in the SEC post SWC, and they were of course never a member of the Big-12. The recent struggles for these programs has much more to do with inconsistency at coaching than anything to do with proximmity to Texas recruits. If proximity to Texas recruits was the answer, why are Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State not perennial powerhouses? If the Big-12 was the answer, why have the programs of TCU and WVU gone backwards since entering the Big-12...?

Colorado, Nebraska and Arkansas will all achieve success again, but it will be because they finally have consistency with a head coach. They are never coming to the Big-12, you can lay that hope to rest.

Arkansas should have hired Briles. Brett has no recruiting ties in the South. That whole episode following Petrino's motorcycle mama incident is a head scratcher. Obviously with Texas recruiting being somewhat important to the Razorbacks the focus should have been on a coach with talent that has Texas ties. Patterson or Briles fit that bill.

Agree. Both Patterson or Briles could have used the talent that Petrino recruited to win now. Biliema wants to build a ground control/strong defensive program like he had in Wisconsin to mirror LSU and Bama...but that overhaul may take longer to accomplish than the Arkansas faithful are willing to allow.

When Nebraska was Nebraska, they recruited California hard and also got a lot of talent out of New Jersey. It also helped to clean up in the state of Missouri. Texas has been okay for Nebraska, but not a main recruiting pipeline.

Roy Williams when he was at Kansas recruited California hard because he said he had no major basketball schools to fly over them to get to Kansas. Nebraska was the same way in football.

(12-04-2013 01:24 PM)LSUtah Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 01:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 10:25 AM)LSUtah Wrote:  Colorado was much more successful as a Big 8 team with no precense in Texas than they ever were in the Big-12. The same could be said for Nebraska to some degree. Arkansas has has considerable success in the SEC post SWC, and they were of course never a member of the Big-12. The recent struggles for these programs has much more to do with inconsistency at coaching than anything to do with proximmity to Texas recruits. If proximity to Texas recruits was the answer, why are Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State not perennial powerhouses? If the Big-12 was the answer, why have the programs of TCU and WVU gone backwards since entering the Big-12...?

Colorado, Nebraska and Arkansas will all achieve success again, but it will be because they finally have consistency with a head coach. They are never coming to the Big-12, you can lay that hope to rest.

Arkansas should have hired Briles. Brett has no recruiting ties in the South. That whole episode following Petrino's motorcycle mama incident is a head scratcher. Obviously with Texas recruiting being somewhat important to the Razorbacks the focus should have been on a coach with talent that has Texas ties. Patterson or Briles fit that bill.

Agree. Both Patterson or Briles could have used the talent that Petrino recruited to win now. Biliema wants to build a ground control/strong defensive program like he had in Wisconsin to mirror LSU and Bama...but that overhaul may take longer to accomplish than the Arkansas faithful are willing to allow.

Not only may it take too long, but he may be building an outmoded system. The rule changes have made for a more offensively friendly future. Television is liking up tempo more and more. I think , like the wishbone did years ago, the spread is going to change about 2 decades worth of how the game is played before it too passes into history.

(12-04-2013 01:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 10:25 AM)LSUtah Wrote:  Colorado was much more successful as a Big 8 team with no precense in Texas than they ever were in the Big-12. The same could be said for Nebraska to some degree. Arkansas has has considerable success in the SEC post SWC, and they were of course never a member of the Big-12. The recent struggles for these programs has much more to do with inconsistency at coaching than anything to do with proximmity to Texas recruits. If proximity to Texas recruits was the answer, why are Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State not perennial powerhouses? If the Big-12 was the answer, why have the programs of TCU and WVU gone backwards since entering the Big-12...?

Colorado, Nebraska and Arkansas will all achieve success again, but it will be because they finally have consistency with a head coach. They are never coming to the Big-12, you can lay that hope to rest.

Arkansas should have hired Briles. Brett has no recruiting ties in the South. That whole episode following Petrino's motorcycle mama incident is a head scratcher. Obviously with Texas recruiting being somewhat important to the Razorbacks the focus should have been on a coach with talent that has Texas ties. Patterson or Briles fit that bill.

Good luck getting Briles out of the state of Texas period. Neither school will allow their coach to go easily. The buyouts on each are very very prohibitive.

IIRC Briles in fact turned down Arky and the Vols.

(12-04-2013 01:18 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 01:13 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Do they really call themselves UNL or just UN?

from my understanding of it they have called themselves UNL for a while but its been highlighted by the b10 move

NU is a byproduct of the b8 where all the flagships do that. OU, CU, KU, MU.....

NU is already used by northwestern so they used UNL more frequently now

their website is UNL.edu

UNL is used to differentiate the school from little brother UNO.

(12-04-2013 01:34 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  When Nebraska was Nebraska, they recruited California hard and also got a lot of talent out of New Jersey. It also helped to clean up in the state of Missouri. Texas has been okay for Nebraska, but not a main recruiting pipeline.

Roy Williams when he was at Kansas recruited California hard because he said he had no major basketball schools to fly over them to get to Kansas. Nebraska was the same way in football.

Hey look, someone who knows the history. I wonder if the propagandists will try to ignore this one as well in their attempts to continue their diatribes against the Big Ten and any school associated with it.

Arkansas should have hired Briles. Brett has no recruiting ties in the South. That whole episode following Petrino's motorcycle mama incident is a head scratcher. Obviously with Texas recruiting being somewhat important to the Razorbacks the focus should have been on a coach with talent that has Texas ties. Patterson or Briles fit that bill.
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I disagree. Coach BB is a perfect fit.Although you will have to over look this season. He has helped us recruit Florida. Which is a state that we seemed to never be able to recruit. Our recruiting of Missouri and Louisiana is taking off. Texas recruiting will come. It takes time to build relationships with recruits.

That's BB's biggest issue. He has very little in the way of ties to the area he finds himself in.

(12-04-2013 01:34 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  When Nebraska was Nebraska, they recruited California hard and also got a lot of talent out of New Jersey. It also helped to clean up in the state of Missouri. Texas has been okay for Nebraska, but not a main recruiting pipeline.

Roy Williams when he was at Kansas recruited California hard because he said he had no major basketball schools to fly over them to get to Kansas. Nebraska was the same way in football.

This.

And towards the end of the 1980's, after seeing how the Florida speed utilized by Miami & FSU gash his teams he started hitting Florida hard for skill position players on both sides of the ball. Before Ken Hatfield nuked our recruiting altogether we frequently battled the Huskers for Florida recruits because we ran similar style schemes on both sides of the ball.

(12-04-2013 07:08 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  That's BB's biggest issue. He has very little in the way of ties to the area he finds himself in.

Ties are only important at first. If a coach is a good recruiter in one region chances are he is more often going to be able to recruit anywhere.

(12-04-2013 08:39 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 01:34 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  When Nebraska was Nebraska, they recruited California hard and also got a lot of talent out of New Jersey. It also helped to clean up in the state of Missouri. Texas has been okay for Nebraska, but not a main recruiting pipeline.

Roy Williams when he was at Kansas recruited California hard because he said he had no major basketball schools to fly over them to get to Kansas. Nebraska was the same way in football.

This.

And towards the end of the 1980's, after seeing how the Florida speed utilized by Miami & FSU gash his teams he started hitting Florida hard for skill position players on both sides of the ball. Before Ken Hatfield nuked our recruiting altogether we frequently battled the Huskers for Florida recruits because we ran similar style schemes on both sides of the ball.

Tom Osborne, after losing several bowl games in a row, asked the Florida State staff to come to Lincoln and evaluate the Huskers program. FSU Staff sat down the two DEs and moved the LBs to DEs. FSU then took the Safeties and moved them to the vacant LB positions. FSU pulled two DBs off the bench to replace the safeties. Nebraska then went on a roll with its new found speed defense.