(12-04-2013 04:14 PM)TeKERaider Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 03:11 PM)Psychored Wrote:  In the 5 year history of the BOB Bowl, the average attendance has been a little over 23K, and that's with a Florida school being in the mix for 3 of those games. WKU took close to 5K to Detroit last year in a blizzard. I could see us doing at least 1.5X that to St. Pete!

11 hour vs 7 hr drive. Being the day after christmas sux but not as bad as convincing your wife to spend 11 hours in the car on Christmas eve . Especially if you have small kids. I stick with my less than 5k number. My OAB was right above the visitor section and I have never seen wku bring more than 1500 including the band. 7500 is a pipe dream.

You do realize that since WKU has been full FBS, we've only travelled to Murfreesboro twice.

2011- A Thursday night game in which WKU started the season 0-4 so 1500 would be very good given that situation. I never understand the rationale for a rival game like that to be on a Thursday...even if it were on TV. Total attendance was only 23,000

2009 - A Saturday game but WKU was in the middle of it's 20+ losing streak when we transitioned to FBS so fan interest was definitely affected. By the way, total attendance was only 17,000 anyway so even the homestanding MTSU weren't that interested in the game.

If MTSU and WKU are both winning in the same season, the fan interest will be epic. Just hasn't happened yet at a game in Murfreesboro.

(12-04-2013 04:54 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 04:14 PM)TeKERaider Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 03:11 PM)Psychored Wrote:  In the 5 year history of the BOB Bowl, the average attendance has been a little over 23K, and that's with a Florida school being in the mix for 3 of those games. WKU took close to 5K to Detroit last year in a blizzard. I could see us doing at least 1.5X that to St. Pete!

11 hour vs 7 hr drive. Being the day after christmas sux but not as bad as convincing your wife to spend 11 hours in the car on Christmas eve . Especially if you have small kids. I stick with my less than 5k number. My OAB was right above the visitor section and I have never seen wku bring more than 1500 including the band. 7500 is a pipe dream.

You do realize that since WKU has been full FBS, we've only travelled to Murfreesboro twice.

2011- A Thursday night game in which WKU started the season 0-4 so 1500 would be very good given that situation. I never understand the rationale for a rival game like that to be on a Thursday...even if it were on TV. Total attendance was only 23,000

2009 - A Saturday game but WKU was in the middle of it's 20+ losing streak when we transitioned to FBS so fan interest was definitely affected. By the way, total attendance was only 17,000 anyway so even the homestanding MTSU weren't that interested in the game.

If MTSU and WKU are both winning in the same season, the fan interest will be epic. Just hasn't happened yet at a game in Murfreesboro.

Although it isn't fair with WKU having beaten ULM and ULM only being 6-6, I feel pretty confident that if an SBC team is chosen for the Indy Bowl, it will be ULM. They either want a name or attendance. Because of proximity ULM provides way more attendance than WKU in Shreveport. Our AD Wickstrom has really been working the phones trying to get us in. In fact, he has put up a billboard on I-20 asking the Indy to pick us and put an email and number for the Indy for fans to call on the billboard. Also, he is having Willie Robertson contact the Indy Bowl Foundation and tell them that he will be on the sidelines if they pick ULM. Gives a little more eyes on the tube and publicity if he is there possibly. At least Wickstrom is trying hard.

(12-04-2013 05:07 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 04:54 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 04:14 PM)TeKERaider Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 03:11 PM)Psychored Wrote:  In the 5 year history of the BOB Bowl, the average attendance has been a little over 23K, and that's with a Florida school being in the mix for 3 of those games. WKU took close to 5K to Detroit last year in a blizzard. I could see us doing at least 1.5X that to St. Pete!

11 hour vs 7 hr drive. Being the day after christmas sux but not as bad as convincing your wife to spend 11 hours in the car on Christmas eve . Especially if you have small kids. I stick with my less than 5k number. My OAB was right above the visitor section and I have never seen wku bring more than 1500 including the band. 7500 is a pipe dream.

You do realize that since WKU has been full FBS, we've only travelled to Murfreesboro twice.

2011- A Thursday night game in which WKU started the season 0-4 so 1500 would be very good given that situation. I never understand the rationale for a rival game like that to be on a Thursday...even if it were on TV. Total attendance was only 23,000

2009 - A Saturday game but WKU was in the middle of it's 20+ losing streak when we transitioned to FBS so fan interest was definitely affected. By the way, total attendance was only 17,000 anyway so even the homestanding MTSU weren't that interested in the game.

If MTSU and WKU are both winning in the same season, the fan interest will be epic. Just hasn't happened yet at a game in Murfreesboro.

Although it isn't fair with WKU having beaten ULM and ULM only being 6-6, I feel pretty confident that if an SBC team is chosen for the Indy Bowl, it will be ULM. They either want a name or attendance. Because of proximity ULM provides way more attendance than WKU in Shreveport. Our AD Wickstrom has really been working the phones trying to get us in. In fact, he has put up a billboard on I-20 asking the Indy to pick us and put an email and number for the Indy for fans to call on the billboard. Also, he is having Willie Robertson contact the Indy Bowl Foundation and tell them that he will be on the sidelines if they pick ULM. Gives a little more eyes on the tube and publicity if he is there possibly. At least Wickstrom is trying hard.

Yep. I saw a tweet with the pic of the billboard you mentioned. Good stuff by ULM and congrats if you can get the Bowl. I too think WKU has no chance at that Bowl...or any Bowl for that matter.

(12-04-2013 05:07 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 04:54 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 04:14 PM)TeKERaider Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 03:11 PM)Psychored Wrote:  In the 5 year history of the BOB Bowl, the average attendance has been a little over 23K, and that's with a Florida school being in the mix for 3 of those games. WKU took close to 5K to Detroit last year in a blizzard. I could see us doing at least 1.5X that to St. Pete!

11 hour vs 7 hr drive. Being the day after christmas sux but not as bad as convincing your wife to spend 11 hours in the car on Christmas eve . Especially if you have small kids. I stick with my less than 5k number. My OAB was right above the visitor section and I have never seen wku bring more than 1500 including the band. 7500 is a pipe dream.

You do realize that since WKU has been full FBS, we've only travelled to Murfreesboro twice.

2011- A Thursday night game in which WKU started the season 0-4 so 1500 would be very good given that situation. I never understand the rationale for a rival game like that to be on a Thursday...even if it were on TV. Total attendance was only 23,000

2009 - A Saturday game but WKU was in the middle of it's 20+ losing streak when we transitioned to FBS so fan interest was definitely affected. By the way, total attendance was only 17,000 anyway so even the homestanding MTSU weren't that interested in the game.

If MTSU and WKU are both winning in the same season, the fan interest will be epic. Just hasn't happened yet at a game in Murfreesboro.

Although it isn't fair with WKU having beaten ULM and ULM only being 6-6, I feel pretty confident that if an SBC team is chosen for the Indy Bowl, it will be ULM. They either want a name or attendance. Because of proximity ULM provides way more attendance than WKU in Shreveport. Our AD Wickstrom has really been working the phones trying to get us in. In fact, he has put up a billboard on I-20 asking the Indy to pick us and put an email and number for the Indy for fans to call on the billboard. Also, he is having Willie Robertson contact the Indy Bowl Foundation and tell them that he will be on the sidelines if they pick ULM. Gives a little more eyes on the tube and publicity if he is there possibly. At least Wickstrom is trying hard.

Wait a minute you mean ULM is actually calling a bowl and in direct contact? WOW who would have thought that.....

don't you know Benson was doing all of ASU's talk to the Go Daddy, hell ASU never even talked to them till Monday morning when they called to let the Go Daddy know Benson was lying on them

Yeap, that's 100% the truth or at least what ASU wants people to believe.


BTW will Willie be wearing his LSU shirt...every time I've seen anyone from that family they had on LSU colors

(12-04-2013 01:40 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 01:35 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 01:31 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 01:28 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  WKU is not on their radar....Notre Dame or the Pac-12

Should the Irish choose another destination, the ACC opponent would likely come from the Pac-12, where nine teams qualified for the postseason. The conference has seven tie-ins.

Notre Dame would have to figure a way out of the Pinstripe Bowl to get to Shreveport. I am still hearing that an SBC school can beat out a PAC 12 school for that game.

Hearing the opposite.

My source is better. As of Monday Evening, The Independence Bowl could not decide between an SBC or PAC 12. SBC schools sell more tickets. Sponsors want PAC 12 for TV.

The only way Notre Dame could get involved with this mess is if they worked a deal to get out of Pinstripe...but to do that, I think they would probably try to get the Poinsettia and Pinstripe to swap a MAC team with ND.

Notre Dame has no desire to play in Shreveport.

Your source is correct......

I'm not knocking the strategy. But, will anyone turn on the game to see a shot of a Duck Dynasty guy.

(12-04-2013 05:19 PM)slappycajun Wrote:  I'm not knocking the strategy. But, will anyone turn on the game to see a shot of a Duck Dynasty guy.

Still the top rated Cable Show on TV, and the last time he was in Arkansas people showed up by the droves to see him.

Willie Robinson doesn't sell TV, he sells tickets.

If you are ULM, your best shot at a bowl is to do something to make the committee notice you. Putting up billboards and getting Willie Robinson to contact the I bowl in your favor cant hurt. That and promise to make sure you house players on campus pre bowl.

(12-04-2013 05:22 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 05:19 PM)slappycajun Wrote:  I'm not knocking the strategy. But, will anyone turn on the game to see a shot of a Duck Dynasty guy.

Still the top rated Cable Show on TV, and the last time he was in Arkansas people showed up by the droves to see him.

Willie Robinson doesn't sell TV, he sells tickets.

If you are ULM, your best shot at a bowl is to do something to make the committee notice you. Putting up billboards and getting Willie Robinson to contact the I bowl in your favor cant hurt. That and promise to make sure you house players on campus pre bowl.

that's why i asked this on a hoops thread: does ulm keep the basketball players on campus between semesters after finals

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/1...story.html

Boston College may be going to HOD Bowl.

(12-04-2013 05:07 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 04:54 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 04:14 PM)TeKERaider Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 03:11 PM)Psychored Wrote:  In the 5 year history of the BOB Bowl, the average attendance has been a little over 23K, and that's with a Florida school being in the mix for 3 of those games. WKU took close to 5K to Detroit last year in a blizzard. I could see us doing at least 1.5X that to St. Pete!

11 hour vs 7 hr drive. Being the day after christmas sux but not as bad as convincing your wife to spend 11 hours in the car on Christmas eve . Especially if you have small kids. I stick with my less than 5k number. My OAB was right above the visitor section and I have never seen wku bring more than 1500 including the band. 7500 is a pipe dream.

You do realize that since WKU has been full FBS, we've only travelled to Murfreesboro twice.

2011- A Thursday night game in which WKU started the season 0-4 so 1500 would be very good given that situation. I never understand the rationale for a rival game like that to be on a Thursday...even if it were on TV. Total attendance was only 23,000

2009 - A Saturday game but WKU was in the middle of it's 20+ losing streak when we transitioned to FBS so fan interest was definitely affected. By the way, total attendance was only 17,000 anyway so even the homestanding MTSU weren't that interested in the game.

If MTSU and WKU are both winning in the same season, the fan interest will be epic. Just hasn't happened yet at a game in Murfreesboro.

Although it isn't fair with WKU having beaten ULM and ULM only being 6-6, I feel pretty confident that if an SBC team is chosen for the Indy Bowl, it will be ULM. They either want a name or attendance. Because of proximity ULM provides way more attendance than WKU in Shreveport. Our AD Wickstrom has really been working the phones trying to get us in. In fact, he has put up a billboard on I-20 asking the Indy to pick us and put an email and number for the Indy for fans to call on the billboard. Also, he is having Willie Robertson contact the Indy Bowl Foundation and tell them that he will be on the sidelines if they pick ULM. Gives a little more eyes on the tube and publicity if he is there possibly. At least Wickstrom is trying hard.

Definitely time to move another conference. When the team with the second best overall record sits at home while two teams with worse records, that they defeated go to bowls there is definitely something wrong. The SBC p[rovides no incentive for being successful unless you win the conference outright and there are no back room deals for local teams that override the "guidelines". What a screwed up mess the bowl process is in the SBC.

Wku didn't seem to mind last year

(12-04-2013 06:10 PM)Jacque Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 05:07 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 04:54 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 04:14 PM)TeKERaider Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 03:11 PM)Psychored Wrote:  In the 5 year history of the BOB Bowl, the average attendance has been a little over 23K, and that's with a Florida school being in the mix for 3 of those games. WKU took close to 5K to Detroit last year in a blizzard. I could see us doing at least 1.5X that to St. Pete!

11 hour vs 7 hr drive. Being the day after christmas sux but not as bad as convincing your wife to spend 11 hours in the car on Christmas eve . Especially if you have small kids. I stick with my less than 5k number. My OAB was right above the visitor section and I have never seen wku bring more than 1500 including the band. 7500 is a pipe dream.

You do realize that since WKU has been full FBS, we've only travelled to Murfreesboro twice.

2011- A Thursday night game in which WKU started the season 0-4 so 1500 would be very good given that situation. I never understand the rationale for a rival game like that to be on a Thursday...even if it were on TV. Total attendance was only 23,000

2009 - A Saturday game but WKU was in the middle of it's 20+ losing streak when we transitioned to FBS so fan interest was definitely affected. By the way, total attendance was only 17,000 anyway so even the homestanding MTSU weren't that interested in the game.

If MTSU and WKU are both winning in the same season, the fan interest will be epic. Just hasn't happened yet at a game in Murfreesboro.

Although it isn't fair with WKU having beaten ULM and ULM only being 6-6, I feel pretty confident that if an SBC team is chosen for the Indy Bowl, it will be ULM. They either want a name or attendance. Because of proximity ULM provides way more attendance than WKU in Shreveport. Our AD Wickstrom has really been working the phones trying to get us in. In fact, he has put up a billboard on I-20 asking the Indy to pick us and put an email and number for the Indy for fans to call on the billboard. Also, he is having Willie Robertson contact the Indy Bowl Foundation and tell them that he will be on the sidelines if they pick ULM. Gives a little more eyes on the tube and publicity if he is there possibly. At least Wickstrom is trying hard.

Definitely time to move another conference. When the team with the second best overall record sits at home while two teams with worse records, that they defeated go to bowls there is definitely something wrong. The SBC p[rovides no incentive for being successful unless you win the conference outright and there are no back room deals for local teams that override the "guidelines". What a screwed up mess the bowl process is in the SBC.

You are leaving. You can judge normal SBC outcomes by your your previous experience, but not by this year since you are leaving.

If you were not leaving, you would have received the GoDaddy Bowl invitation OVER the 2nd place team. But you are leaving...so you did not.

The Independence Bowl is not an SBC affiliated bowl, or even really friends with the SBC. If they take ULM it is because of an independent decision based on geographic proximity and nothing more.

I don't mind you criticizing the SBC for your experiences, but it is ludicrous for you to manufacture complaints.

(12-04-2013 06:19 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  If you were not leaving, you would have received the GoDaddy Bowl invitation OVER the 2nd place team. But you are leaving...so you did not.

I don't think so.

(12-04-2013 06:24 PM)Fanof49ASU Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 06:19 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  If you were not leaving, you would have received the GoDaddy Bowl invitation OVER the 2nd place team. But you are leaving...so you did not.

I don't think so.

Yeah, I think they probably would have. Benson was cozied up to their AD pretty closely last year and GoDaddy was interested in fresh blood. 8-4 and Bobby Petrino would probably have gotten it for them. I think they almost go it anyway.

(12-04-2013 06:13 PM)TeKERaider Wrote:  Wku didn't seem to mind last year

We don't ever want to set home and I think speak for most when I say MT deserved a bowl and would have gotten the pizza bowl if WKU had not already built a relationship. Most felt bad for MT and the bowl situation ...... What had most people pissed at MT was the look at me attitude that was shown when the CUSA invite came out

I think you are right and the first two reasons are actually good reasons. The telling part to me how sleazy bowls can be is wanting a real piece of cheap like Petrino. I am not talking about the mistress and all that brought. It's how wherever he has been people who have had to deal with him are not sorry he is gone. Of course that probably fits with most upper echelon coaches. Even JoePa was found out to be a real piece of work. Actually a lot of coaches I have been around have an ego that is lot more than they are. I really hope WKU gets a bowl. I just hate Petrino will be one of the reasons they get a bid.

(12-04-2013 06:55 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  I think you are right and the first two reasons are actually good reasons. The telling part to me how sleazy bowls can be is wanting a real piece of cheap like Petrino. I am not talking about the mistress and all that brought. It's how wherever he has been people who have had to deal with him are not sorry he is gone. Of course that probably fits with most upper echelon coaches. Even JoePa was found out to be a real piece of work. Actually a lot of coaches I have been around have an ego that is lot more than they are. I really hope WKU gets a bowl. I just hate Petrino will be one of the reasons they get a bid.

Why don't you go ahead and come out, there's really no reason to hide it....


everyone else can see through you like a window


Hit that line, Hit that line, Keep on going,

Move that ball right down the field.

Give a cheer, Rah! Rah!

Never fear, Rah Rah

(12-04-2013 07:09 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(12-04-2013 06:55 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  I think you are right and the first two reasons are actually good reasons. The telling part to me how sleazy bowls can be is wanting a real piece of cheap like Petrino. I am not talking about the mistress and all that brought. It's how wherever he has been people who have had to deal with him are not sorry he is gone. Of course that probably fits with most upper echelon coaches. Even JoePa was found out to be a real piece of work. Actually a lot of coaches I have been around have an ego that is lot more than they are. I really hope WKU gets a bowl. I just hate Petrino will be one of the reasons they get a bid.

Why don't you go ahead and come out, there's really no reason to hide it....


everyone else can see through you like a window


Hit that line, Hit that line, Keep on going,

Move that ball right down the field.

Give a cheer, Rah! Rah!

Never fear, Rah Rah

It is quite interesting the hatred and extremely vocal fixation some Arkansas State fans have with Coach Petrino. It's as if he somehow embarrassed or let down their favorite university.

(12-04-2013 06:55 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  I think you are right and the first two reasons are actually good reasons. The telling part to me how sleazy bowls can be is wanting a real piece of cheap like Petrino. I am not talking about the mistress and all that brought. It's how wherever he has been people who have had to deal with him are not sorry he is gone. Of course that probably fits with most upper echelon coaches. Even JoePa was found out to be a real piece of work. Actually a lot of coaches I have been around have an ego that is lot more than they are. I really hope WKU gets a bowl. I just hate Petrino will be one of the reasons they get a bid.

Yeah.... Having a decent 8-4 season would have no say in getting a bowl if it happened .........either way WKU will not get a bowl this season.

(12-04-2013 07:42 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  It is quite interesting the hatred and extremely vocal fixation some Arkansas State fans have with Coach Petrino. It's as if he somehow embarrassed or let down their favorite university.

ASU fans have been talking bad about Petrino long before his fall.