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(12-02-2013 11:56 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  Not in today's environment.

1) UAB is not a Catholic school. Therefore, we can't associate with our friends from Xavier, Creighton, and Marquette in the New Big East.

Not every school in the Big East is a Catholic institution, though every one of them are private. At any rate, I doubt the affiliation or ownership status of the school is a major consideration.
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(12-03-2013 09:04 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Here's the question I want asked by the peons in the local media (got your pencils ready, kids?):

Is the UA Board of Trustees equally committed to the success of both its football programs? And if not, Why not?

Unless/until they are willing to pursue THIS question, I really don't give a damn what they think about whether or not MY football program should be shut down.

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(12-03-2013 09:04 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Here's the question I want asked by the peons in the local media (got your pencils ready, kids?):

Is the UA Board of Trustees equally committed to the success of both its football programs? And if not, Why not?

Unless/until they are willing to pursue THIS question, I really don't give a damn what they think about whether or not MY football program should be shut down.

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(12-03-2013 12:09 AM)the Dragon Wrote:  
(12-03-2013 12:02 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 11:56 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  Not in today's environment.

1) UAB is not a Catholic school. Therefore, we can't associate with our friends from Xavier, Creighton, and Marquette in the New Big East.

2) The best choices for our entire sports program happen to also be football-playing conferences. The Bammers know that if football folds, all of UAB Athletics becomes marginalized. It *may* have been possible for us to stay 1-AA back in the mid-90s and be in a good situation basketball-wise, but even then, I think UAB would be trying to do what Charlotte and ODU are doing now: Going FBS.

Just asking a question, why does Gonzaga, Wichita St, Xavier, Dayton and many other basketball programs does so well without a Div I football program?

Another question: could they do better if they had an FBS football program?

Answer: We can't know.

So, as for football, do we want an FBS team?

Answer: Yes.

But that is not the question. The fact is they have done well without a FBS football program. And a program such a Mizzou St has checked into going FBS but has decided not for the time being.

My question was ask because many of you believe UAB Basketball would suffer without football. Fact is UAB Basketball without football went to the Elite 8 during a time when only 48 teams were invited to the Dance. Since joining CUSA, UAB Basketball has been to the Sweet 16 only once. It has gotten worse since the big name teams have left CUSA.

I am not saying UAB Football needs to be done away with. What I am saying is that UAB Basketball does not need UAB Football to survive. Many of you just want a football program for the sake of having one and that is fine. But please stop with the nonsense that UAB Basketball needs the football program.

UAB has always been and always will be a basketball school.
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If "always" meant anything, we'd still fear the Spanish navy.
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RE: Probably should watch channel 6 news tonight...
(12-03-2013 09:53 AM)Uncle BLAZER Wrote:  
(12-03-2013 09:04 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Here's the question I want asked by the peons in the local media (got your pencils ready, kids?):

Is the UA Board of Trustees equally committed to the success of both its football programs? And if not, Why not?

Unless/until they are willing to pursue THIS question, I really don't give a damn what they think about whether or not MY football program should be shut down.

EggFNzackley.

Ditto.
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(12-03-2013 10:27 AM)BlazerFromMD Wrote:  
(12-03-2013 09:53 AM)Uncle BLAZER Wrote:  
(12-03-2013 09:04 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Here's the question I want asked by the peons in the local media (got your pencils ready, kids?):

Is the UA Board of Trustees equally committed to the success of both its football programs? And if not, Why not?

Unless/until they are willing to pursue THIS question, I really don't give a damn what they think about whether or not MY football program should be shut down.

EggFNzackley.

Ditto.

What He Said!
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RE: Probably should watch channel 6 news tonight...
(12-02-2013 11:56 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  Not in today's environment.

1) UAB is not a Catholic school. Therefore, we can't associate with our friends from Xavier, Creighton, and Marquette in the New Big East.

2) The best choices for our entire sports program happen to also be football-playing conferences. The Bammers know that if football folds, all of UAB Athletics becomes marginalized. It *may* have been possible for us to stay 1-AA back in the mid-90s and be in a good situation basketball-wise, but even then, I think UAB would be trying to do what Charlotte and ODU are doing now: Going FBS.

Exactly. When teams are trying to move their football programs to D1 status and are actually leaving basketball conferences that would not be a good thing for UAB athletics. Folks like to mention the Big East or A10. Well, the closest team from those conferences is St. Louis, 2 states away. Neither is interested in adding members and diluting an already tight monetary situation by having more mouths to feed and increased travel costs. UAB would most probably be relegated to the CAA or A-Sun conference which is not the level you want if there was to be a real focus on basketball. How would fans feel about playing the likes of Ga State and Kenessaw St twice a year? What national program is gonna come play UAB then? What preseason tournaments would want UAB then? Just think about how many teams from those 2 conferences you've seen play on TV. How long do you think Coach Haase would stay if that happened? From a title 9 perspective, we'd probably lose bowling, sand volleyball, rifle, and maybe others, including cross country. We'd also have to find landing places for other sports. UAB athletics would be hurt tremendously without football. I don't think most of the media really understands that. I know many of the students don't understand it. And I KNOW the BOT DOES understand that.
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RE: Probably should watch channel 6 news tonight...
(12-03-2013 10:42 AM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 11:56 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  Not in today's environment.

1) UAB is not a Catholic school. Therefore, we can't associate with our friends from Xavier, Creighton, and Marquette in the New Big East.

2) The best choices for our entire sports program happen to also be football-playing conferences. The Bammers know that if football folds, all of UAB Athletics becomes marginalized. It *may* have been possible for us to stay 1-AA back in the mid-90s and be in a good situation basketball-wise, but even then, I think UAB would be trying to do what Charlotte and ODU are doing now: Going FBS.

Exactly. When teams are trying to move their football programs to D1 status and are actually leaving basketball conferences that would not be a good thing for UAB athletics. Folks like to mention the Big East or A10. Well, the closest team from those conferences is St. Louis, 2 states away. Neither is interested in adding members and diluting an already tight monetary situation by having more mouths to feed and increased travel costs. UAB would most probably be relegated to the CAA or A-Sun conference which is not the level you want if there was to be a real focus on basketball. How would fans feel about playing the likes of Ga State and Kenessaw St twice a year? What national program is gonna come play UAB then? What preseason tournaments would want UAB then? Just think about how many teams from those 2 conferences you've seen play on TV. How long do you think Coach Haase would stay if that happened? From a title 9 perspective, we'd probably lose bowling, sand volleyball, rifle, and maybe others, including cross country. We'd also have to find landing places for other sports. UAB athletics would be hurt tremendously without football. I don't think most of the media really understands that. I know many of the students don't understand it. And I KNOW the BOT DOES understand that.

+1

The only question needed regarding the existence of ANY university's football program is Does the university want to have it?

At UAB, the answer is yes.
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The people saying pull the plug on football are not thinking about the repercussions of such a drastic move. Keeping football is a no-brainer when you consider all the side effects: loss of conference affiliation; loss of tv, conference, and advertisement revenue; loss of free, national publicity from August to November... the list goes on.
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(12-03-2013 10:42 AM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 11:56 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  Not in today's environment.

1) UAB is not a Catholic school. Therefore, we can't associate with our friends from Xavier, Creighton, and Marquette in the New Big East.

2) The best choices for our entire sports program happen to also be football-playing conferences. The Bammers know that if football folds, all of UAB Athletics becomes marginalized. It *may* have been possible for us to stay 1-AA back in the mid-90s and be in a good situation basketball-wise, but even then, I think UAB would be trying to do what Charlotte and ODU are doing now: Going FBS.

Exactly. When teams are trying to move their football programs to D1 status and are actually leaving basketball conferences that would not be a good thing for UAB athletics. Folks like to mention the Big East or A10. Well, the closest team from those conferences is St. Louis, 2 states away. Neither is interested in adding members and diluting an already tight monetary situation by having more mouths to feed and increased travel costs. UAB would most probably be relegated to the CAA or A-Sun conference which is not the level you want if there was to be a real focus on basketball. How would fans feel about playing the likes of Ga State and Kenessaw St twice a year? What national program is gonna come play UAB then? What preseason tournaments would want UAB then? Just think about how many teams from those 2 conferences you've seen play on TV. How long do you think Coach Haase would stay if that happened? From a title 9 perspective, we'd probably lose bowling, sand volleyball, rifle, and maybe others, including cross country. We'd also have to find landing places for other sports. UAB athletics would be hurt tremendously without football. I don't think most of the media really understands that. I know many of the students don't understand it. And I KNOW the BOT DOES understand that.

Somebody tell that douchbag Ryan Brown this. I'm tired of arguing with his dumb***.
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RE: Probably should watch channel 6 news tonight...
Look folks, we KNOW what the problems are for UAB football. They start with a lack of physical facilities our opponents ALREADY have and UAB does NOT. The cure? MONEY for building those needed facilities up to and possibly including an OCS. We have been repeatedly reminded of this problem by lost commitments in the past and by our record in C-USA competition.

Other schools, including the newer arrivals, have built what UAB has not. "Planned improvements" have almost Never translated to "in place improvements". Constantly changing coaches to win without facilities is like trying to build a house from the roof down. Even a building expert like Attalla wouldn't try to do that.

For the "BUCK FAMA" advocate, it is extremely dangerous to play into the System BOT's strategy of projecting UAB football as an enemy of Crimson Tide football. Keep your aim/eyes on the prize which is relief from the BOT's control of UAB sports. In the last "election" God lost to Crimson Tide football when no one in the state was outraged about Bama playing in a bowl game on SUNDAY after the state had refused in the same season to allow Hoover to play a TV game in Ohio on Sunday.
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The media and even some fans need to get out of the habit of making foolish statements like shutting down the football program because of a loss or even a series of losses. It just shows the underneath bias that they have toward other programs instead of UAB. For example Auburn basketball has been terrible for the past 10 years yet no media outlet will dare do a story on the validity of shutting down men's basketball at Auburn. Instead they get a new arena to re-engage the fans excitement about the program. The UAB Administration should come down hard on FOX 6 for even doing a story like that. The program is here to stay regardless of how many losing seasons we have period.
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(12-03-2013 12:05 PM)kdblazer Wrote:  The media and even some fans need to get out of the habit of making foolish statements like shutting down the football program because of a loss or even a series of losses. It just shows the underneath bias that they have toward other programs instead of UAB. For example Auburn basketball has been terrible for the past 10 years yet no media outlet will dare do a story on the validity of shutting down men's basketball at Auburn. Instead they get a new arena to re-engage the fans excitement about the program. The UAB Administration should come down hard on FOX 6 for even doing a story like that. The program is here to stay regardless of how many losing seasons we have period.

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(12-03-2013 11:55 AM)Uncle BLAZER Wrote:  I'm tired of arguing with his dumb***.

Here's an idea:

Don't.
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(12-03-2013 12:05 PM)kdblazer Wrote:  The media and even some fans need to get out of the habit of making foolish statements like shutting down the football program because of a loss or even a series of losses. It just shows the underneath bias that they have toward other programs instead of UAB. For example Auburn basketball has been terrible for the past 10 years yet no media outlet will dare do a story on the validity of shutting down men's basketball at Auburn. Instead they get a new arena to re-engage the fans excitement about the program. The UAB Administration should come down hard on FOX 6 for even doing a story like that. The program is here to stay regardless of how many losing seasons we have period.

Very well stated. I needed to read that.
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(12-03-2013 11:29 AM)UABslant Wrote:  The people saying pull the plug on football are not thinking about the repercussions of such a drastic move. Keeping football is a no-brainer when you consider all the side effects: loss of conference affiliation; loss of tv, conference, and advertisement revenue; loss of free, national publicity from August to November... the list goes on.

If the UAB administration shut down football without figuring out conferences and revenue impacts, then they shouldn't be in charge of a major research university.

And I'm not entirely sure if the publicity we get from football is a good thing at this point.
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(12-03-2013 10:42 AM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 11:56 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  Not in today's environment.

1) UAB is not a Catholic school. Therefore, we can't associate with our friends from Xavier, Creighton, and Marquette in the New Big East.

2) The best choices for our entire sports program happen to also be football-playing conferences. The Bammers know that if football folds, all of UAB Athletics becomes marginalized. It *may* have been possible for us to stay 1-AA back in the mid-90s and be in a good situation basketball-wise, but even then, I think UAB would be trying to do what Charlotte and ODU are doing now: Going FBS.

Exactly. When teams are trying to move their football programs to D1 status and are actually leaving basketball conferences that would not be a good thing for UAB athletics. Folks like to mention the Big East or A10. Well, the closest team from those conferences is St. Louis, 2 states away. Neither is interested in adding members and diluting an already tight monetary situation by having more mouths to feed and increased travel costs. UAB would most probably be relegated to the CAA or A-Sun conference which is not the level you want if there was to be a real focus on basketball. How would fans feel about playing the likes of Ga State and Kenessaw St twice a year? What national program is gonna come play UAB then? What preseason tournaments would want UAB then? Just think about how many teams from those 2 conferences you've seen play on TV. How long do you think Coach Haase would stay if that happened? From a title 9 perspective, we'd probably lose bowling, sand volleyball, rifle, and maybe others, including cross country. We'd also have to find landing places for other sports. UAB athletics would be hurt tremendously without football. I don't think most of the media really understands that. I know many of the students don't understand it. And I KNOW the BOT DOES understand that.

So let me get this straight, if UAB had never fielded a football program UAB Athletics would be hurting today? I just want to make sure I am understanding you and many others on this board correctly.
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