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(12-02-2013 03:06 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 12:35 PM)bevotex Wrote:  I had to Google NIU to see who they were

I hope everything falls the right way and Texas plays NIU in the Fiesta. I saw what BYU did to the Texas defense and NIU will tear them up. Would be a great 1st blow-out BCS Bowl win for the MAC. Lynch way better than BYU's Hill and he rushed for 260 on Texas.

NIU isn't physical enough to "tear them up" like BYU did. In fact, just the opposite would happen: UT would "tear up" NIU. OSU will likely blow NIU out for the same reason—just look at what happened to Baylor. Nevertheless, I’ll be rooting for NIU….
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(12-03-2013 08:40 AM)Underdog Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 02:44 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 02:41 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 11:14 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...redictions

National Title game - Ohio State vs FSU
Rose Bowl - Michigan State vs Stanford
Fiesta Bowl - NIU vs OSU
Sugar Bowl - Auburn vs UCF
Orange - Alabama vs Clemson

The Pac-12, SEC, ACC, and Big 10 have two teams in BCS bowls. If for some odd reason NIU chokes next week would it be possible for them to fall to 17th and Louisville move up to 16th and get a BCS bid?
Tell me how it works that MSU gets the Rose Bowl as the B1G runner up, but Eastern division winner Mizzou doesn't get a BCS bowl? Aren't they the runner up SEC team?

2 things in play.
1st off- it's bowl choice. If Wisconsin hadn't lost this weekend, Rose could have taken either Wisconsin or Michigan St.
2nd off- Alabama likely will be either 3 or 4 and the highest at large. That is automatic. This is from the 1st BCS. Kansas St lost final day of the season, finished 3rd, and didn't make the BCS. Tehy put in a rule the following year for the top at large team if they are 3-4- became automatic. It's how in 2004, Texas went to the Rose instead of Cal(4 vs 5).

This can't be regarding last year because Kansas St lost to Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Fiesta_Bowl

The K-state scenario he is talking about was from 1998, the first year of the BCS. K-state finished 3rd but was not chosen for a BCS bowl, so the "K-State rule" was implemented to prevent that from happening again.
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(12-03-2013 08:47 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-03-2013 08:40 AM)Underdog Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 02:44 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 02:41 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 11:14 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...redictions

National Title game - Ohio State vs FSU
Rose Bowl - Michigan State vs Stanford
Fiesta Bowl - NIU vs OSU
Sugar Bowl - Auburn vs UCF
Orange - Alabama vs Clemson

The Pac-12, SEC, ACC, and Big 10 have two teams in BCS bowls. If for some odd reason NIU chokes next week would it be possible for them to fall to 17th and Louisville move up to 16th and get a BCS bid?
Tell me how it works that MSU gets the Rose Bowl as the B1G runner up, but Eastern division winner Mizzou doesn't get a BCS bowl? Aren't they the runner up SEC team?

2 things in play.
1st off- it's bowl choice. If Wisconsin hadn't lost this weekend, Rose could have taken either Wisconsin or Michigan St.
2nd off- Alabama likely will be either 3 or 4 and the highest at large. That is automatic. This is from the 1st BCS. Kansas St lost final day of the season, finished 3rd, and didn't make the BCS. Tehy put in a rule the following year for the top at large team if they are 3-4- became automatic. It's how in 2004, Texas went to the Rose instead of Cal(4 vs 5).

This can't be regarding last year because Kansas St lost to Oregon in the Fiesta Bowl....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Fiesta_Bowl

The K-state scenario he is talking about was from 1998, the first year of the BCS. K-state finished 3rd but was not chosen for a BCS bowl, so the "K-State rule" was implemented to prevent that from happening again.

Thanks for the clarification Quo….
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(12-03-2013 12:28 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  True. Forgot about that limit of two from the same conference. My bad. 05-hide

No need to apologize, as the rule limiting a conference to two teams is a stupid rule.

How do we know a rule is "fair" or not? Simple: Since there are 10 BCS bowl slots, the 10 most deserving teams are the ones ranked 1-10 in the BCS standings.

So if your team finishes in the BCS top 10 and you don't get a BCS bowl slot, you got screwed. Exactly why you got screwed (two teams per conference limit, AQ conference champs must get in regardless of rank, BCS bowl chooses a lower ranked but "bigger name" school, etc.) may be difficult to determine, but you got screwed.

So if Mizzou loses to Auburn but still finishes in the top 10 but does not get a BCS bid, you have every right to feel screwed. 07-coffee3
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(12-02-2013 12:36 PM)TomThumb Wrote:  If NIU loses, I think Oregon takes that spot.

If NIU loses, the Sugar would be free to pass on UCF, and might grab Baylor.
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(12-03-2013 09:22 AM)orangefan Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 12:36 PM)TomThumb Wrote:  If NIU loses, I think Oregon takes that spot.

If NIU loses, the Sugar would be free to pass on UCF, and might grab Baylor.

I think they may take Oregon- setting up a Oregon/Auburn game- or if Auburn made the title game- Oregon/Alabama. Just too delicious to pass up.
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(12-03-2013 08:52 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(12-03-2013 12:28 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  True. Forgot about that limit of two from the same conference. My bad. 05-hide

No need to apologize, as the rule limiting a conference to two teams is a stupid rule.

How do we know a rule is "fair" or not? Simple: Since there are 10 BCS bowl slots, the 10 most deserving teams are the ones ranked 1-10 in the BCS standings.

So if your team finishes in the BCS top 10 and you don't get a BCS bowl slot, you got screwed. Exactly why you got screwed (two teams per conference limit, AQ conference champs must get in regardless of rank, BCS bowl chooses a lower ranked but "bigger name" school, etc.) may be difficult to determine, but you got screwed.

So if Mizzou loses to Auburn but still finishes in the top 10 but does not get a BCS bid, you have every right to feel screwed. 07-coffee3
It's not a stupid rule. Without it we would have the B1G/SEC challenge with a few big names from other conferences mixed in if they did good enough.
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