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(12-02-2013 01:58 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 01:53 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 01:42 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  I'm sorry, is playing Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Indiana, and Purdue not good enough for you?

I think Maryland vs. Michigan State could be a GREAT future rivalry if both sides promote it.

you forgot even the biggest one. Penn St. I look for that rivalry to just explode quite frankly.

Michigan State and Maryland are both basketball-first schools.

Penn State will likely trounce Maryland in football, and then lose to the Terps on the hardwood.

If Penn State batters Maryland like they should then there won't be much of a rivalry in about 5-10 years. You are 100% correct in the short-term, however.

I think though if Maryland has some sucess with them in the near term, especially with PSU having the sanctions, that could change things. I just don't see Penn St battering much of anyone in the short term.

Can't wait to next year with actual logical Big Ten divisions.
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(12-02-2013 02:03 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think Maryland and Rutgers football will fall into the same mediocrity as Indiana, Northwestern, Illinois, Purdue. Fans will get tired of seeing their teams head bashed in every week.

3 of those 4 teams made the Rose Bowl within the last 20 years.
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(12-02-2013 01:39 PM)SeaBlue Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 01:26 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  established conference that offers no rivals for Maryland, is based in the Midwest and is, quite frankly, a weaker basketball conference. Half the fun of being a Maryland fan has been watching the team play Duke and North Carolina in basketball and Florida State and Clemson in football. Soon, all that will be over.

Quite frankly, you can't so easily say 'quite frankly' anymore with regard to basketball. And if the ACC schools won't schedule Maryland for basketball, that's not on Maryland.

And if Florida State and Clemson are his thing I don't know what would make him happy. Penn State / Michigan / Ohio State should easily equal Florida State / Clemson for most fans. If Maryland was a top 10/20 team the argument would hold more water.
That's not my statement. Even I would acknowledge that quality of Big Ten basketball.
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RE: Maryland Student Newspaper: Officials plan, reflect on Big Ten move
(12-02-2013 02:04 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 02:03 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  I think Maryland and Rutgers football will fall into the same mediocrity as Indiana, Northwestern, Illinois, Purdue. Fans will get tired of seeing their teams head bashed in every week.

3 of those 4 teams made the Rose Bowl within the last 20 years.

Yes and Maryland made the OB 12 years ago.

Today is a different ball game. The B1G has expanded and now have created brand new divisions. Maryland will be with OSU, Mich, Mich St, Penn St,Indiana, Rutgers. They were already getting killed with Clemson, FSU, BC, Syracuse, Wake, NC State and that's not nearly as difficult.
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There is no support for the umd program and they pissed off a lot of the die hards over the last couple years with the massive dept, cutting sports, and as of late the big ten move. Not to mention more and more students are coming from out of state with not ties to the school. If you think this is going to change with a move to the big ten you don't know anything about umd.
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(12-02-2013 06:21 PM)DBpirate Wrote:  There is no support for the umd program and they pissed off a lot of the die hards over the last couple years...

Stranger stuff has happened. The Colts pissed off a lot of people when they moved. Then Baltimore won a super bowl as the rebranded Cleveland Browns franchise. Point being, fan support came from somewhere (ok, so winning probably had something to do with it).
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(12-02-2013 01:26 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  Here's a recent letter opposing the Maryland Move to the Wash Post Editor:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a...story.html

Quote:An ACC fan for life

Published: November 25

Regarding the Nov. 20 Sports article “Court rules ACC’s lawsuit vs. Maryland can proceed”:

As a die-hard Atlantic Coast Conference fan and a Maryland alumnus, I am disgusted that the school’s poor financial decisions are forcing it to leave the ACC for the Big Ten.

Maryland has been playing such schools as the University of North Carolina, North Carolina State and the University of Virginia since 1921, when they all were in the Southern Conference. In 1953, many of the Southern Conference teams, including Maryland, North Carolina and Duke, formed the ACC. N ow the Terps are moving to an established conference that offers no rivals for Maryland, is based in the Midwest and is, quite frankly, a weaker basketball conference. Half the fun of being a Maryland fan has been watching the team play Duke and North Carolina in basketball and Florida State and Clemson in football. Soon, all that will be over.

I will continue to root for the Lady Terps in basketball, but I will switch allegiances in all other sports to various ACC schools, starting in the 2014-2015 season. The good news is that the ACC tournament will be at the Verizon Center in 2016. I will be there wearing a Maryland shirt but rooting for the ACC teams that brought me such enjoyment for decades.

Neil Keller, Rockville

This is Classic Joe Blow Fan reasoning that doesn't understand the reality of today's college sports world. It is about market share, brand names, stability, prestige, football, football and football. I said this a year ago: any person that believes a conference realignment decision at the FBS level shouldn't be made because they're moving to a perceived weaker basketball conference (as if the Big Ten was some type of hoops graveyard that hasn't been leading the entire NCAA, including the vaunted ACC, in *basketball* attendance for the past 30 years straight) has ZERO clue about what's critical today. (And I say all of this as an unabashed hoops guy.) I don't blame him for that viewpoint, but this letter is Exhibit A about why fans don't make these long-term decisions.
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(12-02-2013 06:51 PM)SeaBlue Wrote:  [quote='DBpirate' pid='10112753' dateline='1386026499']
There is no support for the umd program and they pissed off a lot of the die hards over the last couple years...

Stranger stuff has happened. The Colts pissed off a lot of people when they moved. Then Baltimore won a super bowl as the rebranded Cleveland Browns franchise. Point being, fan support came from somewhere (ok, so winning probably had something to do with it).
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They were mad about them leaving but the blame was put on Irsay. They still wanted a team in Baltimore and the fans were happy when a team was brought back. Nfl is a different ball game.
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(12-02-2013 07:08 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 01:26 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  Here's a recent letter opposing the Maryland Move to the Wash Post Editor:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a...story.html

Quote:An ACC fan for life

Published: November 25

Regarding the Nov. 20 Sports article “Court rules ACC’s lawsuit vs. Maryland can proceed”:

As a die-hard Atlantic Coast Conference fan and a Maryland alumnus, I am disgusted that the school’s poor financial decisions are forcing it to leave the ACC for the Big Ten.

Maryland has been playing such schools as the University of North Carolina, North Carolina State and the University of Virginia since 1921, when they all were in the Southern Conference. In 1953, many of the Southern Conference teams, including Maryland, North Carolina and Duke, formed the ACC. N ow the Terps are moving to an established conference that offers no rivals for Maryland, is based in the Midwest and is, quite frankly, a weaker basketball conference. Half the fun of being a Maryland fan has been watching the team play Duke and North Carolina in basketball and Florida State and Clemson in football. Soon, all that will be over.

I will continue to root for the Lady Terps in basketball, but I will switch allegiances in all other sports to various ACC schools, starting in the 2014-2015 season. The good news is that the ACC tournament will be at the Verizon Center in 2016. I will be there wearing a Maryland shirt but rooting for the ACC teams that brought me such enjoyment for decades.

Neil Keller, Rockville

This is Classic Joe Blow Fan reasoning that doesn't understand the reality of today's college sports world. It is about market share, brand names, stability, prestige, football, football and football. I said this a year ago: any person that believes a conference realignment decision at the FBS level shouldn't be made because they're moving to a perceived weaker basketball conference (as if the Big Ten was some type of hoops graveyard that hasn't been leading the entire NCAA, including the vaunted ACC, in *basketball* attendance for the past 30 years straight) has ZERO clue about what's critical today. (And I say all of this as an unabashed hoops guy.) I don't blame him for that viewpoint, but this letter is Exhibit A about why fans don't make these long-term decisions.
You can include Maryland's head men's and lady's basketball coaches as well, as the Baltimore Sun revealed yesterday that both Mark Turgeon and Brenda Freese initially opposed the move to the Big Ten. They've since come around to supporting the move. Obviously they were told to get with the program.
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(12-02-2013 06:51 PM)SeaBlue Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 06:21 PM)DBpirate Wrote:  There is no support for the umd program and they pissed off a lot of the die hards over the last couple years...

Stranger stuff has happened. The Colts pissed off a lot of people when they moved. Then Baltimore won a super bowl as the rebranded Cleveland Browns franchise. Point being, fan support came from somewhere (ok, so winning probably had something to do with it).
Yeah those fans didn't adopt either Maryland or the Redskins as their home team during the dark years.
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(12-02-2013 07:08 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 01:26 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  Here's a recent letter opposing the Maryland Move to the Wash Post Editor:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a...story.html

Quote:An ACC fan for life

Published: November 25

Regarding the Nov. 20 Sports article “Court rules ACC’s lawsuit vs. Maryland can proceed”:

As a die-hard Atlantic Coast Conference fan and a Maryland alumnus, I am disgusted that the school’s poor financial decisions are forcing it to leave the ACC for the Big Ten.

Maryland has been playing such schools as the University of North Carolina, North Carolina State and the University of Virginia since 1921, when they all were in the Southern Conference. In 1953, many of the Southern Conference teams, including Maryland, North Carolina and Duke, formed the ACC. N ow the Terps are moving to an established conference that offers no rivals for Maryland, is based in the Midwest and is, quite frankly, a weaker basketball conference. Half the fun of being a Maryland fan has been watching the team play Duke and North Carolina in basketball and Florida State and Clemson in football. Soon, all that will be over.

I will continue to root for the Lady Terps in basketball, but I will switch allegiances in all other sports to various ACC schools, starting in the 2014-2015 season. The good news is that the ACC tournament will be at the Verizon Center in 2016. I will be there wearing a Maryland shirt but rooting for the ACC teams that brought me such enjoyment for decades.

Neil Keller, Rockville

This is Classic Joe Blow Fan reasoning that doesn't understand the reality of today's college sports world. It is about market share, brand names, stability, prestige, football, football and football. I said this a year ago: any person that believes a conference realignment decision at the FBS level shouldn't be made because they're moving to a perceived weaker basketball conference (as if the Big Ten was some type of hoops graveyard that hasn't been leading the entire NCAA, including the vaunted ACC, in *basketball* attendance for the past 30 years straight) has ZERO clue about what's critical today. (And I say all of this as an unabashed hoops guy.) I don't blame him for that viewpoint, but this letter is Exhibit A about why fans don't make these long-term decisions.

Throw Cuse, Louisville, Notre Dame and Pitt in the ACC for Hoops while the B1G takes Maryland and hmmm yeah Rutgirls. You still think you'll lead in Hoops Attendance?

Stever last year you were a huge B12 fan now you are a huge B1G fan?
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(12-02-2013 01:26 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  Here's a recent letter opposing the Maryland Move to the Wash Post Editor:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a...story.html

Quote:An ACC fan for life

Published: November 25

Regarding the Nov. 20 Sports article “Court rules ACC’s lawsuit vs. Maryland can proceed”:

As a die-hard Atlantic Coast Conference fan and a Maryland alumnus, I am disgusted that the school’s poor financial decisions are forcing it to leave the ACC for the Big Ten.

Maryland has been playing such schools as the University of North Carolina, North Carolina State and the University of Virginia since 1921, when they all were in the Southern Conference. In 1953, many of the Southern Conference teams, including Maryland, North Carolina and Duke, formed the ACC. N ow the Terps are moving to an established conference that offers no rivals for Maryland, is based in the Midwest and is, quite frankly, a weaker basketball conference. Half the fun of being a Maryland fan has been watching the team play Duke and North Carolina in basketball and Florida State and Clemson in football. Soon, all that will be over.

I will continue to root for the Lady Terps in basketball, but I will switch allegiances in all other sports to various ACC schools, starting in the 2014-2015 season. The good news is that the ACC tournament will be at the Verizon Center in 2016. I will be there wearing a Maryland shirt but rooting for the ACC teams that brought me such enjoyment for decades.

Neil Keller, Rockville

Any moron that quits cheering for his/her own school, because of the teams they play is ridiculous and not the type of alumnus that a school needs to worry about! What is so special about the Lady Terps, that they're immune to his rage despite also changing conferences?
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(12-02-2013 12:26 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 12:12 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Yes Maryland will temporarily increase their attendance. But what happens when they're getting their teeth kicked in every week. They are back to where they started. Go look at their attendance history. When they were performing well attendance was good.

I also think the money isn't going to be as high as they were promised. It will be years before they even get a full allotment.

I think fans of schools like Michigan, Ohio St, etc. will travel a lot more to College Park than any of the ACC schools.

You hope the money won't be as high as they were promised. The fact is with FS1 out there, it's very possible that it becomes a bidding war with ESPN and FS1. Who wins that? The Big Ten.

I would say if FS1 won the bidding war the ACC would win big time since more games would get aired on a network people actually watch which in turn would allow for a bigger contract when the look-in occurs.
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