(12-03-2013 12:01 AM)quo vadis Wrote: (12-02-2013 09:28 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote: (12-02-2013 09:13 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (12-02-2013 08:40 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote: (12-02-2013 06:45 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: They said last night on the ESPN that Floroda State has played the weakest schedule of any BCS champonship team. Their schedule has been horribly weak, NIU would have probably rolled some of those teams.
But that's part of the story. They aren't the only ones that have played a "weak" schedule over the past 50 years. Yet, they have been the most dominant.
Problem is, the ability to RUTS against a bad team isn't indicative of ability to beat good teams.
Wasn't the point of the thread. The point of the thread was pointing out how this level of domination is unprecedented.
No, the point of the thread was to cite this alleged "unprecedented domination" to justify FSU as most deserving of being #1.
That implication begs the questions of what it means to be dominant, and as I and others have shown, merely looking at the MOV number is no more meaningful than merely looking at records. You have to factor in SOS, as it should be plain as day that having an MOV of 15 vs a tough schedule is more "dominant" than having an MOV of 20 versus a soft schedule, etc.
You still don't get it. Other teams have had "softer" schedules and didn't dominate like this. And the domination isn't alleged. It's pure fact. The teams that FSU hasn't beaten this year, while not world beaters, have shown themselves to be very competitive. They may not win those games but they're not getting beat by 25 or 50 points a game.
FSU beat Pitt 41-13 in Pittsburgh to begin the season. This same Pitt team beat Notre Dame (who also beat Mich St & Arizona St).
FSU beat Clemson 51-14 in Death Valley. This same Clemson team beat Georgia who, over the following 4 weeks, beat South Carolina and LSU. Even after the injuries hit they still came within a hail mary of beating Auburn. Clemson went into Columbia, SC and played a very competitive game against SC. I don't recall see the Gamecocks destroy Clemson like FSU did.
FSU beat Miami 41-14. This same Miami team beat Florida when Florida was still a decent team. After the Gators lost to Miami, they won three straight games (Tenn, Arkansas, Kentucky) before starting their downward spiral.
Speaking of Florida, FSU beat them 37-7 in Gainesville. As I said above, Florida started 4-1 before their downward spiral. Even in their losing streak they were competitive. They were within a score of LSU in the 4th quarter. They came all the way back and almost beat Georgia. They were beating SC until 7 mins left in the 4th quarter in COLUMBIA. Yet, FSU beat them by 30 in Gainesville.
FSU beat Maryland 63-0 who beat WV the previous week by 37. That same WV team beat Oklahoma St the very next week. Also, WV only lost to one other team in convincing fashion...Baylor. Every other game on the schedule was fairly competitive.
FSU beat Wake Forest 59-3. That same Wake Forest team lost on a last minute field goal at Vandy.
Say what you want about FSU's soft schedule. The fact remains the teams they beat were very competitive with most of the teams on their schedule. Even a lot of their opponents' opponents were competitive. You're only looking at this from a wins-losses perspective. I'm looking at it from competitiveness. That's a better indicator of dominance.