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(12-01-2013 11:22 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  
(12-01-2013 11:06 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  How much do we hate MTSU: I don't hate them. Some WKU fans hate them though. Some more than others. I've always felt MTSU fans hate us more than we hate them.

I'd call that a gross generalization. I think we're too very similar athletic programs with a healthy rivalry. I "hate" WKU, but I also respect your program greatly, there isn't another program in the Sun Belt or CUSA I'd rather have as a top rival.

I think that's a fair statement. Rivalries are born out of intense competition and fighting for championships. MTSU and WKU, in multiple sports, were continuously over the last 12 years in heated contests with title ramifications in play. If one or the other totally dominated the other, it wouldn't be a rivalry. There's no doubt C-USA got the cream of the crop from the SBC with the additions of MTSU and WKU. And a shout out to NT as well because they were usually in the top 3 in most sports as well.
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(12-01-2013 08:34 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  This isn't to rile you up it's just that I really don't know much about your school except that I know you guys do have good bkb. Where's your school, how big is your stadium, how many students do you have and what has been your best fb victory, how much do you hate mtu? In other words a little bit of history.

As for July 1st, 2014, welcome to CUSA.

echoing a lot of what YG said. We don't have any really impressive wins yet. Going back to back (with a straight thumping this season) on UK has been sweet in the state. Beating ULL at home for our first home win in like 2-3 years was really special to finally achieve success at the FBS level.

I hate everything about the Blue Failers. I wish the school would just fold up shop and go away. Their fans are delusional and pathetic. Their history is mediocre at best. Their claim to fame is girls hoops. A sport that they have never had a final four in (wku has been to 3).

I hate MUTSboro. It is a crap town, with no life of it's own. You want to have fun you go to Nashville. They have wooden bleachers in their basketball arena, and we hit homeruns into their football stadium. Also, MUTS Center has third world bathrooms, take a leak before you go to the game.

Their greatest aspiration, and measure of success revolves around winning the WKU game. They accuse us of having a poor fanbase because we are not nearly as enthusiastic about driving to that dump as they are about coming up here. What they fail to realize is that WKU fans don't care about the game nearly as much as they do. Come tourny time, WKU owned Shot Springs, AR and always attend our NCAA games well. Did I mention the NCAA history of each school?

WKU went to a Sweet 16 in 2008. Have struggled with a bad coaching hire for a couple of years and are now finally back on the rise. We are still a year or two away from a really solid season, but we are getting there. MTSU has had a half a bid in the past 20-30 years.

This should bring out the crazies real quick (they stalk WKU threads here and abroad).05-stirthepot
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Fans of a certain school on a certain message board seem to want to go out of their way to smear me and WKU football. I was at the game. I saw what happened. Sat right behind ASU's bench. I saw my classmates getting shoved behind the sideline out of view. That is probably what sparked the fight. I was there. I had to listen to the whining from the ASU fans about blatant calls. I saw the idiots in the crowd seeking out confrontation.

You call out WKU as having dirty players. You call our coach a scumbag. Show me an example of where we have players with a history of dirty play. We have a tough defense, I'm sorry your qb's couldn't deal with it. I hate to see injuries, but AJ was cleared of the targeting penalty and Dowling's hit was perfectly legal. As for Petrino, he isn't a saint. He's a horny, ambitious and opportunistic football coach. He has never been accused of cheating. He has never been investigated by the NCAA or the conference. He has broken no laws. Is he a perfect role model, no. Are you?

After the BS that you spread, I am happy to be rid of you. I hope to never share a conference with you again. You're a small school with a tiny endowment and a smaller budget. Sorry if the facts upset you, or make you feel bad. After the piss poor behavior of guests in our stadium, I really couldn't care less. Enjoy life in the Sun Blet and keep trying to convince yourself it's all better while you lament your commissioner and your fans beg to get into CUSA and the MAC. Pathetic.
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(12-02-2013 04:33 AM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  
(12-01-2013 08:34 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  This isn't to rile you up it's just that I really don't know much about your school except that I know you guys do have good bkb. Where's your school, how big is your stadium, how many students do you have and what has been your best fb victory, how much do you hate mtu? In other words a little bit of history.

As for July 1st, 2014, welcome to CUSA.

echoing a lot of what YG said. We don't have any really impressive wins yet. Going back to back (with a straight thumping this season) on UK has been sweet in the state. Beating ULL at home for our first home win in like 2-3 years was really special to finally achieve success at the FBS level.

I hate everything about the Blue Failers. I wish the school would just fold up shop and go away. Their fans are delusional and pathetic. Their history is mediocre at best. Their claim to fame is girls hoops. A sport that they have never had a final four in (wku has been to 3).

I hate MUTSboro. It is a crap town, with no life of it's own. You want to have fun you go to Nashville. They have wooden bleachers in their basketball arena, and we hit homeruns into their football stadium. Also, MUTS Center has third world bathrooms, take a leak before you go to the game.

Their greatest aspiration, and measure of success revolves around winning the WKU game. They accuse us of having a poor fanbase because we are not nearly as enthusiastic about driving to that dump as they are about coming up here. What they fail to realize is that WKU fans don't care about the game nearly as much as they do. Come tourny time, WKU owned Shot Springs, AR and always attend our NCAA games well. Did I mention the NCAA history of each school?

WKU went to a Sweet 16 in 2008. Have struggled with a bad coaching hire for a couple of years and are now finally back on the rise. We are still a year or two away from a really solid season, but we are getting there. MTSU has had a half a bid in the past 20-30 years.

This should bring out the crazies real quick (they stalk WKU threads here and abroad).05-stirthepot
Let the record show that 3 months ago this guy was talking about a BCS bowl for WKU, and he thinks our fans our delusional. Hahaha!
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(12-02-2013 12:17 PM)RowdyAlumni Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 04:33 AM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  
(12-01-2013 08:34 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  This isn't to rile you up it's just that I really don't know much about your school except that I know you guys do have good bkb. Where's your school, how big is your stadium, how many students do you have and what has been your best fb victory, how much do you hate mtu? In other words a little bit of history.

As for July 1st, 2014, welcome to CUSA.

echoing a lot of what YG said. We don't have any really impressive wins yet. Going back to back (with a straight thumping this season) on UK has been sweet in the state. Beating ULL at home for our first home win in like 2-3 years was really special to finally achieve success at the FBS level.

I hate everything about the Blue Failers. I wish the school would just fold up shop and go away. Their fans are delusional and pathetic. Their history is mediocre at best. Their claim to fame is girls hoops. A sport that they have never had a final four in (wku has been to 3).

I hate MUTSboro. It is a crap town, with no life of it's own. You want to have fun you go to Nashville. They have wooden bleachers in their basketball arena, and we hit homeruns into their football stadium. Also, MUTS Center has third world bathrooms, take a leak before you go to the game.

Their greatest aspiration, and measure of success revolves around winning the WKU game. They accuse us of having a poor fanbase because we are not nearly as enthusiastic about driving to that dump as they are about coming up here. What they fail to realize is that WKU fans don't care about the game nearly as much as they do. Come tourny time, WKU owned Shot Springs, AR and always attend our NCAA games well. Did I mention the NCAA history of each school?

WKU went to a Sweet 16 in 2008. Have struggled with a bad coaching hire for a couple of years and are now finally back on the rise. We are still a year or two away from a really solid season, but we are getting there. MTSU has had a half a bid in the past 20-30 years.

This should bring out the crazies real quick (they stalk WKU threads here and abroad).05-stirthepot
Let the record show that 3 months ago this guy was talking about a BCS bowl for WKU, and he thinks our fans our delusional. Hahaha!

Objection. I said that a 12-0 season was possible. I thought if we could get past UT, Navy, and Army that we would go all the way. Who would have thought we would have 10 tos at UT and that we would lose games to Troy and USA... got to 8-4 which isn't bad. If we had had a solid QB, this team wins 11 or 12 games. Plain and simple. Then it is all about the rankings from there. Who knew we didn't have a QB who could hand the ball to Antonio without screwing up.
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(12-02-2013 12:00 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  Fans of a certain school on a certain message board seem to want to go out of their way to smear me and WKU football. I was at the game. I saw what happened. Sat right behind ASU's bench. I saw my classmates getting shoved behind the sideline out of view. That is probably what sparked the fight. I was there. I had to listen to the whining from the ASU fans about blatant calls. I saw the idiots in the crowd seeking out confrontation.

You call out WKU as having dirty players. You call our coach a scumbag. Show me an example of where we have players with a history of dirty play. We have a tough defense, I'm sorry your qb's couldn't deal with it. I hate to see injuries, but AJ was cleared of the targeting penalty and Dowling's hit was perfectly legal. As for Petrino, he isn't a saint. He's a horny, ambitious and opportunistic football coach. He has never been accused of cheating. He has never been investigated by the NCAA or the conference. He has broken no laws. Is he a perfect role model, no. Are you?

After the BS that you spread, I am happy to be rid of you. I hope to never share a conference with you again. You're a small school with a tiny endowment and a smaller budget. Sorry if the facts upset you, or make you feel bad. After the piss poor behavior of guests in our stadium, I really couldn't care less. Enjoy life in the Sun Blet and keep trying to convince yourself it's all better while you lament your commissioner and your fans beg to get into CUSA and the MAC. Pathetic.

Notice he didn't say friends
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(12-02-2013 12:00 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  Fans of a certain school on a certain message board seem to want to go out of their way to smear me and WKU football. I was at the game. I saw what happened. Sat right behind ASU's bench. I saw my classmates getting shoved behind the sideline out of view. That is probably what sparked the fight. I was there. I had to listen to the whining from the ASU fans about blatant calls. I saw the idiots in the crowd seeking out confrontation.

You call out WKU as having dirty players. You call our coach a scumbag. Show me an example of where we have players with a history of dirty play. We have a tough defense, I'm sorry your qb's couldn't deal with it. I hate to see injuries, but AJ was cleared of the targeting penalty and Dowling's hit was perfectly legal. As for Petrino, he isn't a saint. He's a horny, ambitious and opportunistic football coach. He has never been accused of cheating. He has never been investigated by the NCAA or the conference. He has broken no laws. Is he a perfect role model, no. Are you?

After the BS that you spread, I am happy to be rid of you. I hope to never share a conference with you again. You're a small school with a tiny endowment and a smaller budget. Sorry if the facts upset you, or make you feel bad. After the piss poor behavior of guests in our stadium, I really couldn't care less. Enjoy life in the Sun Blet and keep trying to convince yourself it's all better while you lament your commissioner and your fans beg to get into CUSA and the MAC. Pathetic.

Notice he didn't say friends

No I do not personally know McNeal or Andrews or Taylor. I have had class or engagements with them before, but would not consider them my friends. Don't really see your point, but then again you never really have one.
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Welcome Toppers to CUSA and a breath of fresh air. You were the last class program in the Belt and certainly deserved better. No more having to put up with Arkansas State whiners or UL-Laffayette whining about their official name. Better conference recognition, better bowl structure, excellent TV coverage (Tuesdays not required) and better TV payout. Like moving from night to day.04-cheers
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(12-02-2013 12:00 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  Fans of a certain school on a certain message board seem to want to go out of their way to smear me and WKU football. I was at the game. I saw what happened. Sat right behind ASU's bench. I saw my classmates getting shoved behind the sideline out of view. That is probably what sparked the fight. I was there. I had to listen to the whining from the ASU fans about blatant calls. I saw the idiots in the crowd seeking out confrontation.

You call out WKU as having dirty players. You call our coach a scumbag. Show me an example of where we have players with a history of dirty play. We have a tough defense, I'm sorry your qb's couldn't deal with it. I hate to see injuries, but AJ was cleared of the targeting penalty and Dowling's hit was perfectly legal. As for Petrino, he isn't a saint. He's a horny, ambitious and opportunistic football coach. He has never been accused of cheating. He has never been investigated by the NCAA or the conference. He has broken no laws. Is he a perfect role model, no. Are you?

After the BS that you spread, I am happy to be rid of you. I hope to never share a conference with you again. You're a small school with a tiny endowment and a smaller budget. Sorry if the facts upset you, or make you feel bad. After the piss poor behavior of guests in our stadium, I really couldn't care less. Enjoy life in the Sun Blet and keep trying to convince yourself it's all better while you lament your commissioner and your fans beg to get into CUSA and the MAC. Pathetic.

This is actually one of your better posts. Some can disagree with your facts but at least you laid them out there without lacing every sentence with expletives. I see potential here.
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(12-02-2013 01:36 PM)MG61 Wrote:  Welcome Toppers to CUSA and a breath of fresh air. You were the last class program in the Belt and certainly deserved better. No more having to put up with Arkansas State whiners or UL-Laffayette whining about their official name. Better conference recognition, better bowl structure, excellent TV coverage (Tuesdays not required) and better TV payout. Like moving from night to day.04-cheers

dont even get started with the whole ULL ULM name debate. geeze.
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I remember being in the Sun Belt with you guys. We had some awesome basketball games with you. I always thought you were a first class program, and I was so glad to see you join C-USA.
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(12-02-2013 12:00 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  Fans of a certain school on a certain message board seem to want to go out of their way to smear me and WKU football. I was at the game. I saw what happened. Sat right behind ASU's bench. I saw my classmates getting shoved behind the sideline out of view. That is probably what sparked the fight. I was there. I had to listen to the whining from the ASU fans about blatant calls. I saw the idiots in the crowd seeking out confrontation.

You call out WKU as having dirty players. You call our coach a scumbag. Show me an example of where we have players with a history of dirty play. We have a tough defense, I'm sorry your qb's couldn't deal with it. I hate to see injuries, but AJ was cleared of the targeting penalty and Dowling's hit was perfectly legal. As for Petrino, he isn't a saint. He's a horny, ambitious and opportunistic football coach. He has never been accused of cheating. He has never been investigated by the NCAA or the conference. He has broken no laws. Is he a perfect role model, no. Are you?

After the BS that you spread, I am happy to be rid of you. I hope to never share a conference with you again. You're a small school with a tiny endowment and a smaller budget. Sorry if the facts upset you, or make you feel bad. After the piss poor behavior of guests in our stadium, I really couldn't care less. Enjoy life in the Sun Blet and keep trying to convince yourself it's all better while you lament your commissioner and your fans beg to get into CUSA and the MAC. Pathetic.

His wife disagrees...
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(12-02-2013 12:00 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  Fans of a certain school on a certain message board seem to want to go out of their way to smear me and WKU football. I was at the game. I saw what happened. Sat right behind ASU's bench. I saw my classmates getting shoved behind the sideline out of view. That is probably what sparked the fight. I was there. I had to listen to the whining from the ASU fans about blatant calls. I saw the idiots in the crowd seeking out confrontation.

You call out WKU as having dirty players. You call our coach a scumbag. Show me an example of where we have players with a history of dirty play. We have a tough defense, I'm sorry your qb's couldn't deal with it. I hate to see injuries, but AJ was cleared of the targeting penalty and Dowling's hit was perfectly legal. As for Petrino, he isn't a saint. He's a horny, ambitious and opportunistic football coach. He has never been accused of cheating. He has never been investigated by the NCAA or the conference. He has broken no laws. Is he a perfect role model, no. Are you?

After the BS that you spread, I am happy to be rid of you. I hope to never share a conference with you again. You're a small school with a tiny endowment and a smaller budget. Sorry if the facts upset you, or make you feel bad. After the piss poor behavior of guests in our stadium, I really couldn't care less. Enjoy life in the Sun Blet and keep trying to convince yourself it's all better while you lament your commissioner and your fans beg to get into CUSA and the MAC. Pathetic.

His wife disagrees...

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I stand corrected: He has never been accused of cheating in college football.
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(12-01-2013 11:06 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  
(12-01-2013 08:34 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  This isn't to rile you up it's just that I really don't know much about your school except that I know you guys do have good bkb. Where's your school, how big is your stadium, how many students do you have and what has been your best fb victory, how much do you hate mtu? In other words a little bit of history.

As for July 1st, 2014, welcome to CUSA.

Where: Bowling Green, Kentucky (about 45 minutes north of Nashville, TN)
Stadium: Official current capacity 22,000. It will hold up to 25,000. Designed to be expanded to 40,000.
Students: 22,000
Best FB Victory: We've only been FBS for five years so hard to say. Beating Kentucky two years in a row has been especially sweet but not impressive wins though since Kentucky is bad.
How much do we hate MTSU: I don't hate them. Some WKU fans hate them though. Some more than others. I've always felt MTSU fans hate us more than we hate them.

Not trying to be argumentative, but I have heard western fans in the past claim they are 45 minutes to Nashville and this simply isn't true. I'm sitting on Broadway in downtown Nashville right now and google maps says 68 miles and 1 hour 13 minutes to drive to the Hill right now. Unless you are driving over 80 mph the whole way including the surface streets, with no stop signs or red lights, you are not making that in 45 minutes ever.
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(12-02-2013 03:02 PM)surlycanon Wrote:  
(12-01-2013 11:06 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  
(12-01-2013 08:34 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  This isn't to rile you up it's just that I really don't know much about your school except that I know you guys do have good bkb. Where's your school, how big is your stadium, how many students do you have and what has been your best fb victory, how much do you hate mtu? In other words a little bit of history.

As for July 1st, 2014, welcome to CUSA.

Where: Bowling Green, Kentucky (about 45 minutes north of Nashville, TN)
Stadium: Official current capacity 22,000. It will hold up to 25,000. Designed to be expanded to 40,000.
Students: 22,000
Best FB Victory: We've only been FBS for five years so hard to say. Beating Kentucky two years in a row has been especially sweet but not impressive wins though since Kentucky is bad.
How much do we hate MTSU: I don't hate them. Some WKU fans hate them though. Some more than others. I've always felt MTSU fans hate us more than we hate them.

Not trying to be argumentative, but I have heard western fans in the past claim they are 45 minutes to Nashville and this simply isn't true. I'm sitting on Broadway in downtown Nashville right now and google maps says 68 miles and 1 hour 13 minutes to drive to the Hill right now. Unless you are driving over 80 mph the whole way including the surface streets, with no stop signs or red lights, you are not making that in 45 minutes ever.

from center of town to center of town google maps shows 1:06. This obviously includes surface streets. From the Scottsville road exit of 65 (the biggest exit in BG) to the 65/24 interchange google shows 47 mins. I think one could comfortably shave 7-12 mins on 65

. I went down to Vandy for a basketball game. Was sitting just off the parkway (i think what you would call a pike) at a gas station and pulled out with 1:30 mins til tip. I went down to the exit on 65 that goes over to west end. parked (on the other side of the footballstadium), walked all the way around memorial, bought a ticket, got a $10 hotdog and made it to my seat in time for intros. from in one town to in the other is about 45 mins. add time to get to anywhere.
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(12-02-2013 03:02 PM)surlycanon Wrote:  
(12-01-2013 11:06 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  
(12-01-2013 08:34 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  This isn't to rile you up it's just that I really don't know much about your school except that I know you guys do have good bkb. Where's your school, how big is your stadium, how many students do you have and what has been your best fb victory, how much do you hate mtu? In other words a little bit of history.

As for July 1st, 2014, welcome to CUSA.

Where: Bowling Green, Kentucky (about 45 minutes north of Nashville, TN)
Stadium: Official current capacity 22,000. It will hold up to 25,000. Designed to be expanded to 40,000.
Students: 22,000
Best FB Victory: We've only been FBS for five years so hard to say. Beating Kentucky two years in a row has been especially sweet but not impressive wins though since Kentucky is bad.
How much do we hate MTSU: I don't hate them. Some WKU fans hate them though. Some more than others. I've always felt MTSU fans hate us more than we hate them.

Not trying to be argumentative, but I have heard western fans in the past claim they are 45 minutes to Nashville and this simply isn't true. I'm sitting on Broadway in downtown Nashville right now and google maps says 68 miles and 1 hour 13 minutes to drive to the Hill right now. Unless you are driving over 80 mph the whole way including the surface streets, with no stop signs or red lights, you are not making that in 45 minutes ever.

I understand what you're saying but I think most are referring to exit to exit off I-65 from BG to Nashville. The last exit out of Bowling Green on I-65 to the Briley Parkway in Nashville is right at 46 miles. At 70 mph speed limit on the Interstate that would be 36 minutes. Granted that's from outskirts to outskirts but one could add lots of drive time depending upon where they're starting in one city and ending in another.
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Instead of making an awkward argument that WKU is more tied to Tennessee's state capitol than any city in the state of Kentucky, it might make more sense to rebrand WKU as Middle Tennessee State University @ Bowling Green.

WKU fans can claim their deep roots as a university of Nashville, and MT can paint the big blob blue and have a mascot to replace the stupid winged horse. Its a win/win. 04-cheers
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(12-02-2013 04:13 PM)TruBlu Wrote:  Instead of making an awkward argument that WKU is more tied to Tennessee's state capitol than any city in the state of Kentucky, it might make more sense to rebrand WKU as Middle Tennessee State University @ Bowling Green.

WKU fans can claim their deep roots as a university of Nashville, and MT can paint the big blob blue and have a mascot to replace the stupid winged horse. Its a win/win. 04-cheers

The original response was to inform the questioner as to the location of Bowling Green. No one attempted to align themselves with Nashville. It just so happens that the closest large city to Bowling Green is in TN. No thank you to the rebranding suggestion however between the two campuses we could take over the whole Nashville market.
I am not crazy about the winged horse but a big blue blob would result in oppsing fans calling you the MT Cookie Monsters. That isn't good.
12-02-2013 04:19 PM
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Post: #40
RE: Washing My Hands
(12-02-2013 04:19 PM)Jacque Wrote:  
(12-02-2013 04:13 PM)TruBlu Wrote:  Instead of making an awkward argument that WKU is more tied to Tennessee's state capitol than any city in the state of Kentucky, it might make more sense to rebrand WKU as Middle Tennessee State University @ Bowling Green.

WKU fans can claim their deep roots as a university of Nashville, and MT can paint the big blob blue and have a mascot to replace the stupid winged horse. Its a win/win. 04-cheers

The original response was to inform the questioner as to the location of Bowling Green. No one attempted to align themselves with Nashville. It just so happens that the closest large city to Bowling Green is in TN. No thank you to the rebranding suggestion however between the two campuses we could take over the whole Nashville market.
I am not crazy about the winged horse but a big blue blob would result in oppsing fans calling you the MT Cookie Monsters. That isn't good.

I think Xavier (?) already has a patent on the big blue blob...
12-02-2013 04:58 PM
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