(11-30-2013 07:43 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 07:39 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Michigan State can stop the upcoming national nightmare by beating Ohio State next week.

what happens if the Dookies pull off the ACC upset as well?

A Michigan State win over Ohio State (PLEASE GOD!) and a Duke upset of Florida State (nearly impossible) would set the stage for an Auburn-Alabama rematch. Of course, that assumes that Auburn beats Missouri, which isn't a given. Alabama and Missouri could play if Missouri beat Auburn in the SECCG and Ohio State and FSU lose. I don't think another team has a chance to be in the BCS title game than those five

(12-01-2013 01:47 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 07:43 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 07:39 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Michigan State can stop the upcoming national nightmare by beating Ohio State next week.

what happens if the Dookies pull off the ACC upset as well?

A Michigan State win over Ohio State (PLEASE GOD!) and a Duke upset of Florida State (nearly impossible) would set the stage for an Auburn-Alabama rematch. Of course, that assumes that Auburn beats Missouri, which isn't a given. Alabama and Missouri could play if Missouri beat Auburn in the SECCG and Ohio State and FSU lose. I don't think another team has a chance to be in the BCS title game than those five

Oklahoma St would get some attention if they won....

(11-30-2013 07:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 07:32 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  Quite simply the worst coaching I have ever seen from Saban.

Yes, letting that klutz kicker back on the field, amazing.

Imagine if that klutz kicker had made the chip shot field goal Saban passed on and Bama was up 3 with 1 second to go. Fourth down and 1 second to go you just fall on the ball and win. Not taking that chip shot was the dumbest coaching blunder of the day. Guess he doesn't have the luck of the Mad Hatter in Baton Rouge.

(11-30-2013 08:43 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FSU beats Duke with the 3rd string QB. And that's who would be playing if something happened to Winston (even though it seems less likely every day).

Winston won't see charges if the police bring them on until after the National Championship Game if FSU makes it that far. The DA's court blotter will just happen to remain too cluttered through the holiday season to act on this pending case the way things have been going down there.

(12-01-2013 01:59 AM)carolinaknights Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 08:43 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FSU beats Duke with the 3rd string QB. And that's who would be playing if something happened to Winston (even though it seems less likely every day).

Winston won't see charges if the police bring them on until after the National Championship Game if FSU makes it that far. The DA's court blotter will just happen to remain too cluttered through the holiday season to act on this pending case the way things have been going down there.

The big x factor is the Heisman. Winston's attorney's want resolution this week, prior to the Heisman Vote deadline. It's an odd situation here.

(12-01-2013 01:49 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:47 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 07:43 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 07:39 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Michigan State can stop the upcoming national nightmare by beating Ohio State next week.

what happens if the Dookies pull off the ACC upset as well?

A Michigan State win over Ohio State (PLEASE GOD!) and a Duke upset of Florida State (nearly impossible) would set the stage for an Auburn-Alabama rematch. Of course, that assumes that Auburn beats Missouri, which isn't a given. Alabama and Missouri could play if Missouri beat Auburn in the SECCG and Ohio State and FSU lose. I don't think another team has a chance to be in the BCS title game than those five

Oklahoma St would get some attention if they won....

After today I'm kind of hoping Ohio St and FSU win out just to shut the SEC out of the National Championship Game this year. Under any other circumstances I would be rooting for Michigan St - hoping that they would kick Meyer and the Buckeyes in their arsses!!!!!!!!!!

(12-01-2013 02:05 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:59 AM)carolinaknights Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 08:43 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FSU beats Duke with the 3rd string QB. And that's who would be playing if something happened to Winston (even though it seems less likely every day).

Winston won't see charges if the police bring them on until after the National Championship Game if FSU makes it that far. The DA's court blotter will just happen to remain too cluttered through the holiday season to act on this pending case the way things have been going down there.

The big x factor is the Heisman. Winston's attorney's want resolution this week, prior to the Heisman Vote deadline. It's an odd situation here.

You can say that again especially since this situation has drug out for so long without any thing being done. Look I'm not saying he is guilty or anything but the situation and the way it has been handled so far does not look good for him, the young lady involved, the police department, or the DA's Office.

(11-30-2013 08:45 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 08:43 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FSU beats Duke with the 3rd string QB. And that's who would be playing if something happened to Winston (even though it seems less likely every day).

The thing that is interesting I think is for the Heisman voting purposes, the Winston camp wants resolution this week. If resolution comes up unfavorably for him, FSU would be down to 3rd string QB- it'd be a real dangerous proposition for them to allow him to play if he's charged with a felony this week.

It's school policy to suspend a player if charged with a felony. Most people don't expect FSU to pull out some obscure clause to allow him to play, if charged. At least not people I'd deem to be reasonable. I don't think the danger's really there.

(12-01-2013 01:59 AM)carolinaknights Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 08:43 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FSU beats Duke with the 3rd string QB. And that's who would be playing if something happened to Winston (even though it seems less likely every day).

Winston won't see charges if the police bring them on until after the National Championship Game if FSU makes it that far. The DA's court blotter will just happen to remain too cluttered through the holiday season to act on this pending case the way things have been going down there.

I'm assuming you don't actually believe that, hence the smilies?

(12-01-2013 02:22 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 08:45 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 08:43 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FSU beats Duke with the 3rd string QB. And that's who would be playing if something happened to Winston (even though it seems less likely every day).

The thing that is interesting I think is for the Heisman voting purposes, the Winston camp wants resolution this week. If resolution comes up unfavorably for him, FSU would be down to 3rd string QB- it'd be a real dangerous proposition for them to allow him to play if he's charged with a felony this week.

It's school policy to suspend a player if charged with a felony. Most people don't expect FSU to pull out some obscure clause to allow him to play, if charged. At least not people I'd deem to be reasonable. I don't think the danger's really there.

With big time football- who knows. wouldn't shock me 1 bit if he played even with being charged with a felony.

(12-01-2013 02:29 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 02:22 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 08:45 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 08:43 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FSU beats Duke with the 3rd string QB. And that's who would be playing if something happened to Winston (even though it seems less likely every day).

The thing that is interesting I think is for the Heisman voting purposes, the Winston camp wants resolution this week. If resolution comes up unfavorably for him, FSU would be down to 3rd string QB- it'd be a real dangerous proposition for them to allow him to play if he's charged with a felony this week.

It's school policy to suspend a player if charged with a felony. Most people don't expect FSU to pull out some obscure clause to allow him to play, if charged. At least not people I'd deem to be reasonable. I don't think the danger's really there.

With big time football- who knows. wouldn't shock me 1 bit if he played even with being charged with a felony.

Give me a break.

(12-01-2013 12:32 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 07:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 07:32 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  Quite simply the worst coaching I have ever seen from Saban.

Yes, letting that klutz kicker back on the field, amazing.

The last kicker was their long range specialist. He wasn't the same guy that missed two and got one blocked.

Trying to kick the FG wasn't the dumbest coaching move by Saban. Failing to put anyone on the far side of the field to defend the runback was the biggest Saban fail.

(12-01-2013 10:25 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 12:32 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 07:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 07:32 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  Quite simply the worst coaching I have ever seen from Saban.

Yes, letting that klutz kicker back on the field, amazing.

The last kicker was their long range specialist. He wasn't the same guy that missed two and got one blocked.

Trying to kick the FG wasn't the dumbest coaching move by Saban. Failing to put anyone on the far side of the field to defend the runback was the biggest Saban fail.

Bingo. The kick coverage was the real problem, and Saban said so during his post game press conference.

(11-30-2013 11:08 PM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 11:05 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 07:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 07:32 PM)RUScarlets Wrote:  Quite simply the worst coaching I have ever seen from Saban.

Yes, letting that klutz kicker back on the field, amazing.

They put in a RedShirt Freshman whom only had 3 previous tries and benched the Klutz

That was an amazingly well played game outside of Alabama's kicking. Even the Auburn punting was superb. I still don't know why schools don't put more importance on recruiting the best possible kickers and giving them full scholarships. They effect the game as much as any other starter.

I don't think there is any more important player than the punter. But some schools rely on walk-ons. A punter can easily mean 10 yards difference on every possession you don't score.

(12-01-2013 01:49 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 01:47 AM)Zombiewoof Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 07:43 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 07:39 PM)PirateMarv Wrote:  Michigan State can stop the upcoming national nightmare by beating Ohio State next week.

what happens if the Dookies pull off the ACC upset as well?

A Michigan State win over Ohio State (PLEASE GOD!) and a Duke upset of Florida State (nearly impossible) would set the stage for an Auburn-Alabama rematch. Of course, that assumes that Auburn beats Missouri, which isn't a given. Alabama and Missouri could play if Missouri beat Auburn in the SECCG and Ohio State and FSU lose. I don't think another team has a chance to be in the BCS title game than those five

Oklahoma St would get some attention if they won....

Only if the alternative was an Auburn-Alabama rematch.

(12-01-2013 02:43 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 02:29 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 02:22 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 08:45 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 08:43 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  FSU beats Duke with the 3rd string QB. And that's who would be playing if something happened to Winston (even though it seems less likely every day).

The thing that is interesting I think is for the Heisman voting purposes, the Winston camp wants resolution this week. If resolution comes up unfavorably for him, FSU would be down to 3rd string QB- it'd be a real dangerous proposition for them to allow him to play if he's charged with a felony this week.

It's school policy to suspend a player if charged with a felony. Most people don't expect FSU to pull out some obscure clause to allow him to play, if charged. At least not people I'd deem to be reasonable. I don't think the danger's really there.

With big time football- who knows. wouldn't shock me 1 bit if he played even with being charged with a felony.

Give me a break.

Nebraska brought back a player after he was convicted.

(12-01-2013 10:27 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 02:43 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 02:29 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(12-01-2013 02:22 AM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(11-30-2013 08:45 PM)stever20 Wrote:  The thing that is interesting I think is for the Heisman voting purposes, the Winston camp wants resolution this week. If resolution comes up unfavorably for him, FSU would be down to 3rd string QB- it'd be a real dangerous proposition for them to allow him to play if he's charged with a felony this week.

It's school policy to suspend a player if charged with a felony. Most people don't expect FSU to pull out some obscure clause to allow him to play, if charged. At least not people I'd deem to be reasonable. I don't think the danger's really there.

With big time football- who knows. wouldn't shock me 1 bit if he played even with being charged with a felony.

Give me a break.

Nebraska brought back a player after he was convicted.

I know they had players with legal issues during the 90's. I'm not sure any actually played a down of football after being convicted of a felony. (I'm also not sure if any actually played while being charged with a felony or if they returned to the field once charges were reduced/dropped.) I'm not going to bother looking it up, either. Tom Osborne and Nebraska handled those things more "hands on" than the typical university.

You hear about kids being kicked off the team all of the time for "violations of team rules" and minor arrests. That's happened with multiple kids at FSU alone under Fisher's watch. I don't believe FSU plays Winston if he's charged. And there's no way they play him if he's convicted, imo. But as of now I don't think he's charged.