One thing that will be interesting to watch is how conferences encourage their bowls with regards to departing members.

In the ACC- I could easily see Maryland gone. For one- they have the 1 win rule- and if Maryland loses, and Pitt or Syracuse win- Maryland is out no matter what. But, if Maryland wins, they could get in the Miillitary Bowl(if selection works out). I could see ACC putting pressure on them to not take them.

I'm sure other conferences are like that as well.

Another aspect of this- would Big Ten try to get Maryland to fill one of their open slots? I could easily see that as well.

Also- would conferences push bowls to select some of their newer members? I could see ACC again pushing to get Pitt in one of their regular bowls.

(11-27-2013 03:53 PM)stever20 Wrote:  One thing that will be interesting to watch is how conferences encourage their bowls with regards to departing members.

In the ACC- I could easily see Maryland gone. For one- they have the 1 win rule- and if Maryland loses, and Pitt or Syracuse win- Maryland is out no matter what. But, if Maryland wins, they could get in the Miillitary Bowl(if selection works out). I could see ACC putting pressure on them to not take them.

Normally I'd say I couldn't, but the ACC has been remarkably petty towards Maryland about other aspects of this year's scheduling that I wouldn't put it past them.

actually I believe a few years ago when Missouri was leaving the Big 12 similar situation- that exact situation happened....

I don't know. The ACC has to cover unsold tickets for bowls so they may give Maryland a pass this time around.

Bowls can take whoever they want within the contract, but a league could certainly drop subtle hints about who they would not want taken. A similar situation happened last year in the Sun Belt when a departing MTSU got left out of a bowl while all 2013 members got one. There is talk the situation might happen with departing member WKU this year.

Its entirely possible that the ACC could do whatever they wanted to push Maryland out of the league tied bowls, and force them to fight everyone else for the at large spots. That being said, Maryland would most likely get an at large spot either way...Especially with a Big 10 slot in Detroit open.

(11-27-2013 04:29 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Bowls can take whoever they want within the contract, but a league could certainly drop subtle hints about who they would not want taken. A similar situation happened last year in the Sun Belt when a departing MTSU got left out of a bowl while all 2013 members got one. There is talk the situation might happen with departing member WKU this year.

Its entirely possible that the ACC could do whatever they wanted to push Maryland out of the league tied bowls, and force them to fight everyone else for the at large spots. That being said, Maryland would most likely get an at large spot either way...Especially with a Big 10 slot in Detroit open.

Not only Detroit, but if as everyone thinks will happen- Big Ten gets 2 BCS teams- Heart of Dallas opens up.

(11-27-2013 04:33 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 04:29 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Bowls can take whoever they want within the contract, but a league could certainly drop subtle hints about who they would not want taken. A similar situation happened last year in the Sun Belt when a departing MTSU got left out of a bowl while all 2013 members got one. There is talk the situation might happen with departing member WKU this year.

Its entirely possible that the ACC could do whatever they wanted to push Maryland out of the league tied bowls, and force them to fight everyone else for the at large spots. That being said, Maryland would most likely get an at large spot either way...Especially with a Big 10 slot in Detroit open.

Not only Detroit, but if as everyone thinks will happen- Big Ten gets 2 BCS teams- Heart of Dallas opens up.

I tend to think that HOD will go after a PAC 12 school. The ACC team that comes open is likely Maryland, Pitt, or Syracuse if they win. That team is closer to Detroit and probably would help that bowl sell tickets. Their only real other option is take a Sun Belt school.

(11-27-2013 04:36 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 04:33 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 04:29 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Bowls can take whoever they want within the contract, but a league could certainly drop subtle hints about who they would not want taken. A similar situation happened last year in the Sun Belt when a departing MTSU got left out of a bowl while all 2013 members got one. There is talk the situation might happen with departing member WKU this year.

Its entirely possible that the ACC could do whatever they wanted to push Maryland out of the league tied bowls, and force them to fight everyone else for the at large spots. That being said, Maryland would most likely get an at large spot either way...Especially with a Big 10 slot in Detroit open.

Not only Detroit, but if as everyone thinks will happen- Big Ten gets 2 BCS teams- Heart of Dallas opens up.

I tend to think that HOD will go after a PAC 12 school. The ACC team that comes open is likely Maryland, Pitt, or Syracuse if they win. That team is closer to Detroit and probably would help that bowl sell tickets. Their only real other option is take a Sun Belt school.

true. probably those teams fill BOTH of those slots I'd guess. I'd kind of think maybe Maryland more for HOD, and Pitt for Detroit(only because next year it's an ACC bowl as well).

(11-27-2013 04:38 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 04:36 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 04:33 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 04:29 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Bowls can take whoever they want within the contract, but a league could certainly drop subtle hints about who they would not want taken. A similar situation happened last year in the Sun Belt when a departing MTSU got left out of a bowl while all 2013 members got one. There is talk the situation might happen with departing member WKU this year.

Its entirely possible that the ACC could do whatever they wanted to push Maryland out of the league tied bowls, and force them to fight everyone else for the at large spots. That being said, Maryland would most likely get an at large spot either way...Especially with a Big 10 slot in Detroit open.

Not only Detroit, but if as everyone thinks will happen- Big Ten gets 2 BCS teams- Heart of Dallas opens up.

I tend to think that HOD will go after a PAC 12 school. The ACC team that comes open is likely Maryland, Pitt, or Syracuse if they win. That team is closer to Detroit and probably would help that bowl sell tickets. Their only real other option is take a Sun Belt school.

true. probably those teams fill BOTH of those slots I'd guess. I'd kind of think maybe Maryland more for HOD, and Pitt for Detroit(only because next year it's an ACC bowl as well).

If Clemson and Florida State go BCS, and Syracuse loses to BC...ACC only has one extra. Pac 12 has two extra teams.

Why would a bowl want Maryland? Maryland fans do not travel to College Park - why would they be expected to travel to a bowl?

yeah you're right. I think one of those P12 teams will be Wash St- going to the Boise bowl. The other- not as sure about.

I wonder if C-USA is going to try to screw over ECU and/or Tulane. C-USA is going to have seven bowl-eligible teams - and six slots. C-USA could "suggest" to the New Orleans Bowl that FAU "should" be taken over Tulane. Ditto for the Military Bowl and ECU IF a C-USA West team wins the CCG.

Is Banowsky that kind of person? We'll find out.

(11-27-2013 04:24 PM)stever20 Wrote:  actually I believe a few years ago when Missouri was leaving the Big 12 similar situation- that exact situation happened....

Iowa State was selected over Missouri for a bowl game in Phoenix because the bowl guys thought ISU would sell a lot more tickets -- but that was in 2009, two years before Mizzou agreed to join the SEC.

I'm not aware of animosity between ECU and the C-USA. Is there animosity?

ECU travels well.

(11-27-2013 04:48 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  I'm not aware of animosity between ECU and the C-USA. Is there animosity?

He's saying because ECU is leaving CUSA to join the American

(11-27-2013 04:48 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  I'm not aware of animosity between ECU and the C-USA. Is there animosity?

I'm not sure.

Tulane hasn't been to a bowl in a decade (CJ has turned the program around). It would be a nasty sucker punch if C-USA were to try to ice them out.

(11-27-2013 04:48 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 04:48 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  I'm not aware of animosity between ECU and the C-USA. Is there animosity?

He's saying because ECU is leaving CUSA to join the American

Animosity is what breeds some of these actions. Mizzou did not leave the B12 on the best of terms, although they were better terms than Maryland. No one has done what Maryland has done - hence the treatment.

(11-27-2013 04:47 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  I wonder if C-USA is going to try to screw over ECU and/or Tulane. C-USA is going to have seven bowl-eligible teams - and six slots. C-USA could "suggest" to the New Orleans Bowl that FAU "should" be taken over Tulane. Ditto for the Military Bowl and ECU IF a C-USA West team wins the CCG.

Is Banowsky that kind of person? We'll find out.

I don't think it's any thing personal- just looking out for the conference long term interests.

(11-27-2013 04:44 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  Why would a bowl want Maryland? Maryland fans do not travel to College Park - why would they be expected to travel to a bowl?

Here are the open teams right now for these bowls to choose from:

Washington State
Arizona
Pitt or Maryland...

Ohio
Central Michigan
Troy or Texas State
Western Kentucky or Arkansas State
Florida Atlantic

An open bowl is most likely faced with a choice of a poor draw of an ACC school, or taking a SBC or MAC program and hope the fans show up.

There is a lot of talk down South about whether or not Shreveport will take an open Pac 12 if possible, or if they will go for a ticket grab with a Sun Belt School who would sell more tickets.

It becomes a question of, do you go for a P5 school, get the bigger exposure and hope the locals make up your ticket loss...or do you take a G5 school who might sell more tickets, but wont bring the exposure.

Small Bowls like Detroit will take the Exposure.

(11-27-2013 04:47 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  I wonder if C-USA is going to try to screw over ECU and/or Tulane. C-USA is going to have seven bowl-eligible teams - and six slots. C-USA could "suggest" to the New Orleans Bowl that FAU "should" be taken over Tulane. Ditto for the Military Bowl and ECU IF a C-USA West team wins the CCG.

Is Banowsky that kind of person? We'll find out.

I doubt it simply because FAU wont sell tickets at all unless its St Pete.

My guess is that FAU is probably sitting at home regardless whether or not they get to 6 wins,. The same is probably true of Texas State and maybe Troy.