(11-26-2013 05:02 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  So you have decent teams at the top with UCF (we'll see what happens when O'Leary is gone), Cincy, ECU, Houston.

Tulane, Temple, UCONN, South Florida, Tulsa, Memphis, SMU.....yawn. There's just no excitement there. At least when the ACC expanded, the teams brought rivalries with them.

Rivalries that are exciting to those outside of the fan bases? Not really..ACC fans and Virginians will watch VT vs UVA. Same for the Tobacco road teams, same for Pitt and Cuse, etc.

AAC fans will watch in-conference games...might not get the state-wide exposure like the ACC does but let's not pretend that the ACC has the next Red River Rivalry, Iron Bowl, OSU Vs Michigan that most of the country will be watching.

Not to take away from what y'all have..... just don't pretend like they are some nationally relevant rivalries, aside from the annual Duke/Carolina basketball match ups (but we aren't talking Bball).

(11-26-2013 05:12 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 05:02 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  So you have decent teams at the top with UCF (we'll see what happens when O'Leary is gone), Cincy, ECU, Houston.

Tulane, Temple, UCONN, South Florida, Tulsa, Memphis, SMU.....yawn. There's just no excitement there. At least when the ACC expanded, the teams brought rivalries with them.

Rivalries that are exciting to those outside of the fan bases? Not really..ACC fans and Virginians will watch VT vs UVA. Same for the Tobacco road teams, same for Pitt and Cuse, etc.

AAC fans will watch in-conference games...might not get the state-wide exposure like the ACC does but let's not pretend that the ACC has the next Red River Rivalry, Iron Bowl, OSU Vs Michigan that most of the country will be watching.

Not to take away from what y'all have..... just don't pretend like they are some nationally relevant rivalries, aside from the annual Duke/Carolina basketball match ups (but we aren't talking Bball).

You misinterpret conference game from rivalry. VT has more rivalries than just UVA. They'd been playing half of the ACC for over 30 years before they joined. Miami and FSU already had a rivalry. BC and Syracuse, etc ,etc. These aren't just conference games. Who in AAC has a rivalry with Tulane? Tulsa? One of the issues with the AAC is there isn't much fan appeal...either through TV or attendance.

(11-26-2013 05:25 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 05:12 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 05:02 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  So you have decent teams at the top with UCF (we'll see what happens when O'Leary is gone), Cincy, ECU, Houston.

Tulane, Temple, UCONN, South Florida, Tulsa, Memphis, SMU.....yawn. There's just no excitement there. At least when the ACC expanded, the teams brought rivalries with them.

Rivalries that are exciting to those outside of the fan bases? Not really..ACC fans and Virginians will watch VT vs UVA. Same for the Tobacco road teams, same for Pitt and Cuse, etc.

AAC fans will watch in-conference games...might not get the state-wide exposure like the ACC does but let's not pretend that the ACC has the next Red River Rivalry, Iron Bowl, OSU Vs Michigan that most of the country will be watching.

Not to take away from what y'all have..... just don't pretend like they are some nationally relevant rivalries, aside from the annual Duke/Carolina basketball match ups (but we aren't talking Bball).

You misinterpret conference game from rivalry. VT has more rivalries than just UVA. They'd been playing half of the ACC for over 30 years before they joined. Miami and FSU already had a rivalry. BC and Syracuse, etc ,etc. These aren't just conference games. Who in AAC has a rivalry with Tulane? Tulsa? One of the issues with the AAC is there isn't much fan appeal...either through TV or attendance.

So you're saying that the AAC didn't bring in new members that have rivalries with existing members (seriously asking... not being a smartass)? Cincy and Memphis, as well as UCF/USF. It's not exactly a fair comparison since the AAC only had Temple, Uconn, USF and Cincy. If that's not what you're saying there are still interesting rivalries OOC and in conference. Once again no Duke/Carolina but still a lot to offer. The ACC has it's own "Tulanes" etc......again top to bottom it's not the same... it's undisputed that we are G5 and y'all are P5.... but there are certainly (a lot of) good games for this conference to offer.

(11-26-2013 05:36 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 05:25 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 05:12 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 05:02 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  So you have decent teams at the top with UCF (we'll see what happens when O'Leary is gone), Cincy, ECU, Houston.

Tulane, Temple, UCONN, South Florida, Tulsa, Memphis, SMU.....yawn. There's just no excitement there. At least when the ACC expanded, the teams brought rivalries with them.

Rivalries that are exciting to those outside of the fan bases? Not really..ACC fans and Virginians will watch VT vs UVA. Same for the Tobacco road teams, same for Pitt and Cuse, etc.

AAC fans will watch in-conference games...might not get the state-wide exposure like the ACC does but let's not pretend that the ACC has the next Red River Rivalry, Iron Bowl, OSU Vs Michigan that most of the country will be watching.

Not to take away from what y'all have..... just don't pretend like they are some nationally relevant rivalries, aside from the annual Duke/Carolina basketball match ups (but we aren't talking Bball).

You misinterpret conference game from rivalry. VT has more rivalries than just UVA. They'd been playing half of the ACC for over 30 years before they joined. Miami and FSU already had a rivalry. BC and Syracuse, etc ,etc. These aren't just conference games. Who in AAC has a rivalry with Tulane? Tulsa? One of the issues with the AAC is there isn't much fan appeal...either through TV or attendance.

So you're saying that the AAC didn't bring in new members that have rivalries with existing members (seriously asking... not being a smartass)? Cincy and Memphis, as well as UCF/USF. It's not exactly a fair comparison since the AAC only had Temple, Uconn, USF and Cincy. If that's not what you're saying there are still interesting rivalries OOC and in conference. Once again no Duke/Carolina but still a lot to offer. The ACC has it's own "Tulanes" etc......again top to bottom it's not the same... it's undisputed that we are G5 and y'all are P5.... but there are certainly (a lot of) good games for this conference to offer.

Don't get me wrong...I like the ECU add. I actually think ECU can become a major player in the league. I also like the Navy add. Memphis at least brings basketball. Tulsa, Tulane, SMU???

What are the Tulane's in the ACC?

(11-26-2013 05:50 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Don't get me wrong...I like the ECU add. I actually think ECU can become a major player in the league. I also like the Navy add. Memphis at least brings basketball. Tulsa, Tulane, SMU???

What are the Tulane's in the ACC?

I guess I'm really not understanding the angle you're arguing. I like the adds too.

For the ACC I guess i'd have to pick on Wake for a minute. I mean really who outside of the ACC watches WF? The same can be said for Tulane and Tulsa.... I'm also not buying much into BC right now. They've had big rivalries with Cuse and VT but it seems to have fallen off a lot as of late. Maybe they'll pick back up..

But for SMU a lot of Texas football fans (not all as some on this board will attest to) like to keep up with the Texas schools. When they play in-state they've got a good chunk of a huge state watching, plus AAC fans. The same can be argued for ACC teams in NC - It's just Texas has such a huge football loving population. If UH and SMU can continue to schedule Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, etc it will draw some pretty big attention their way. -- Of course these are OOC (except for SMU-UH, but the idea is similar to how NC is with the ACC... they're just all in the same conference, so that adds to the passion that NC lacks for football).

Like I said earlier, huge difference in P5 and G5, but the AAC will have some interesting match-ups to offer. Cincy Vs Memphis, Smu-UH, UCF-USF, UCF-ECU, is increasingly gaining steam. As these schools work to get noticed it will pick up, or dwindle if they don't get noticed.

(11-26-2013 06:06 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 05:50 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Don't get me wrong...I like the ECU add. I actually think ECU can become a major player in the league. I also like the Navy add. Memphis at least brings basketball. Tulsa, Tulane, SMU???

What are the Tulane's in the ACC?

I guess I'm really not understanding the angle you're arguing. I like the adds too.

For the ACC I guess i'd have to pick on Wake for a minute. I mean really who outside of the ACC watches WF? The same can be said for Tulane and Tulsa.... I'm also not buying much into BC right now. They've had big rivalries with Cuse and VT but it seems to have fallen off a lot as of late. Maybe they'll pick back up..

But for SMU a lot of Texas football fans (not all as some on this board will attest to) like to keep up with the Texas schools. When they play in-state they've got a good chunk of a huge state watching, plus AAC fans. The same can be argued for ACC teams in NC - It's just Texas has such a huge football loving population. If UH and SMU can continue to schedule Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, etc it will draw some pretty big attention their way. -- Of course these are OOC (except for SMU-UH, but the idea is similar to how NC is with the ACC... they're just all in the same conference, so that adds to the passion that NC lacks for football).

Like I said earlier, huge difference in P5 and G5, but the AAC will have some interesting match-ups to offer. Cincy Vs Memphis, Smu-UH, UCF-USF, UCF-ECU, is increasingly gaining steam. As these schools work to get noticed it will pick up, or dwindle if they don't get noticed.

In a nutshell, I don't like the Tulane, SMU, Houston (I can warm up to this one), Tulsa adds. After Rutgers and Louisville leave it only gets worse. I would expect this conference to represent the G5 in the big bowls most years, but the bottom of the conference may weigh the champ down.

(11-26-2013 08:49 AM)miko33 Wrote:  Just an observation, but if AAC fans are going to pound their chests and brag about what their conference is doing by using underwhelming accomplishments, don't get offended if others try to tell emperor Aresco that he and his conference are not wearing any clothes...

And this coming from a Pitt fan

(11-26-2013 05:50 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 05:36 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 05:25 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 05:12 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 05:02 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  So you have decent teams at the top with UCF (we'll see what happens when O'Leary is gone), Cincy, ECU, Houston.

Tulane, Temple, UCONN, South Florida, Tulsa, Memphis, SMU.....yawn. There's just no excitement there. At least when the ACC expanded, the teams brought rivalries with them.

Rivalries that are exciting to those outside of the fan bases? Not really..ACC fans and Virginians will watch VT vs UVA. Same for the Tobacco road teams, same for Pitt and Cuse, etc.

AAC fans will watch in-conference games...might not get the state-wide exposure like the ACC does but let's not pretend that the ACC has the next Red River Rivalry, Iron Bowl, OSU Vs Michigan that most of the country will be watching.

Not to take away from what y'all have..... just don't pretend like they are some nationally relevant rivalries, aside from the annual Duke/Carolina basketball match ups (but we aren't talking Bball).

You misinterpret conference game from rivalry. VT has more rivalries than just UVA. They'd been playing half of the ACC for over 30 years before they joined. Miami and FSU already had a rivalry. BC and Syracuse, etc ,etc. These aren't just conference games. Who in AAC has a rivalry with Tulane? Tulsa? One of the issues with the AAC is there isn't much fan appeal...either through TV or attendance.

So you're saying that the AAC didn't bring in new members that have rivalries with existing members (seriously asking... not being a smartass)? Cincy and Memphis, as well as UCF/USF. It's not exactly a fair comparison since the AAC only had Temple, Uconn, USF and Cincy. If that's not what you're saying there are still interesting rivalries OOC and in conference. Once again no Duke/Carolina but still a lot to offer. The ACC has it's own "Tulanes" etc......again top to bottom it's not the same... it's undisputed that we are G5 and y'all are P5.... but there are certainly (a lot of) good games for this conference to offer.

Don't get me wrong...I like the ECU add. I actually think ECU can become a major player in the league. I also like the Navy add. Memphis at least brings basketball. Tulsa, Tulane, SMU???

What are the Tulane's in the ACC?

UNC and NCSU are the Tulane's of the ACC, didn't they both get punched in the mouth by a C-USA team in ECU?

Tulane=Duke. Both are actually having pretty good years this year.

For the trolls here, they are missing on an obvious point when talking about the bottom of the American.

USF Temple and Cincy are on new coaches. Tulane and Memphis are showing progress in their coaches 2nd year.

UConn has fired their coach...and SMU is considering it (although the buyout may be too big).

I don't think you can say the bottom of the conference is always going to be bad. I think a sleeper is Tulane...when they get into an on campus stadium with some talent, they will be hard to beat. My prediction is that they will make some noise going forward. Cincy has made progress throughout the season. USF just needs some more players and they will be back. Memphis needs to keep improving, they are at least competitive now.

Finally, the American is a 12 team conference going forward. The Big East was an 8 team conference. Just because you have a few bad football teams in a 12 team conference doesn't mean you will have a weaker conference than the Big East at the top. My prediction is that the number of quality teams will be the same and they will end up being the same quality of the old Big East.

(11-27-2013 11:18 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 05:50 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 05:36 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 05:25 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-26-2013 05:12 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  Rivalries that are exciting to those outside of the fan bases? Not really..ACC fans and Virginians will watch VT vs UVA. Same for the Tobacco road teams, same for Pitt and Cuse, etc.

AAC fans will watch in-conference games...might not get the state-wide exposure like the ACC does but let's not pretend that the ACC has the next Red River Rivalry, Iron Bowl, OSU Vs Michigan that most of the country will be watching.

Not to take away from what y'all have..... just don't pretend like they are some nationally relevant rivalries, aside from the annual Duke/Carolina basketball match ups (but we aren't talking Bball).

You misinterpret conference game from rivalry. VT has more rivalries than just UVA. They'd been playing half of the ACC for over 30 years before they joined. Miami and FSU already had a rivalry. BC and Syracuse, etc ,etc. These aren't just conference games. Who in AAC has a rivalry with Tulane? Tulsa? One of the issues with the AAC is there isn't much fan appeal...either through TV or attendance.

So you're saying that the AAC didn't bring in new members that have rivalries with existing members (seriously asking... not being a smartass)? Cincy and Memphis, as well as UCF/USF. It's not exactly a fair comparison since the AAC only had Temple, Uconn, USF and Cincy. If that's not what you're saying there are still interesting rivalries OOC and in conference. Once again no Duke/Carolina but still a lot to offer. The ACC has it's own "Tulanes" etc......again top to bottom it's not the same... it's undisputed that we are G5 and y'all are P5.... but there are certainly (a lot of) good games for this conference to offer.

Don't get me wrong...I like the ECU add. I actually think ECU can become a major player in the league. I also like the Navy add. Memphis at least brings basketball. Tulsa, Tulane, SMU???

What are the Tulane's in the ACC?

UNC and NCSU are the Tulane's of the ACC, didn't they both get punched in the mouth by a C-USA team in ECU?

So ECU beat UNC for THIRD time in history..compared to twelve losses. Just because you win one year doesn't mean the overall program becomes Tulane. Florida just lost to Ga Southern. Does that mean Florida is now Tulane? Don't be ridiculous. UNC and NC State are not Tulane and never will be. Just the fact you bring that up just shows how delusional you are.

(11-27-2013 11:34 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Tulane=Duke. Both are actually having pretty good years this year.

For the trolls here, they are missing on an obvious point when talking about the bottom of the American.

USF Temple and Cincy are on new coaches. Tulane and Memphis are showing progress in their coaches 2nd year.

UConn has fired their coach...and SMU is considering it (although the buyout may be too big).

I don't think you can say the bottom of the conference is always going to be bad. I think a sleeper is Tulane...when they get into an on campus stadium with some talent, they will be hard to beat. My prediction is that they will make some noise going forward. Cincy has made progress throughout the season. USF just needs some more players and they will be back. Memphis needs to keep improving, they are at least competitive now.

Finally, the American is a 12 team conference going forward. The Big East was an 8 team conference. Just because you have a few bad football teams in a 12 team conference doesn't mean you will have a weaker conference than the Big East at the top. My prediction is that the number of quality teams will be the same and they will end up being the same quality of the old Big East.

Tulane is not Duke. Duke brings everything else except a great football program. Tulane brings nothing. No basketball, other olympic sports, nothing...

(11-27-2013 12:12 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 11:34 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Tulane=Duke. Both are actually having pretty good years this year.

For the trolls here, they are missing on an obvious point when talking about the bottom of the American.

USF Temple and Cincy are on new coaches. Tulane and Memphis are showing progress in their coaches 2nd year.

UConn has fired their coach...and SMU is considering it (although the buyout may be too big).

I don't think you can say the bottom of the conference is always going to be bad. I think a sleeper is Tulane...when they get into an on campus stadium with some talent, they will be hard to beat. My prediction is that they will make some noise going forward. Cincy has made progress throughout the season. USF just needs some more players and they will be back. Memphis needs to keep improving, they are at least competitive now.

Finally, the American is a 12 team conference going forward. The Big East was an 8 team conference. Just because you have a few bad football teams in a 12 team conference doesn't mean you will have a weaker conference than the Big East at the top. My prediction is that the number of quality teams will be the same and they will end up being the same quality of the old Big East.

Tulane is not Duke. Duke brings everything else except a great football program. Tulane brings nothing. No basketball, other olympic sports, nothing...

Well, Tulane does bring New Orleans.

(11-27-2013 12:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 12:12 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 11:34 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Tulane=Duke. Both are actually having pretty good years this year.

For the trolls here, they are missing on an obvious point when talking about the bottom of the American.

USF Temple and Cincy are on new coaches. Tulane and Memphis are showing progress in their coaches 2nd year.

UConn has fired their coach...and SMU is considering it (although the buyout may be too big).

I don't think you can say the bottom of the conference is always going to be bad. I think a sleeper is Tulane...when they get into an on campus stadium with some talent, they will be hard to beat. My prediction is that they will make some noise going forward. Cincy has made progress throughout the season. USF just needs some more players and they will be back. Memphis needs to keep improving, they are at least competitive now.

Finally, the American is a 12 team conference going forward. The Big East was an 8 team conference. Just because you have a few bad football teams in a 12 team conference doesn't mean you will have a weaker conference than the Big East at the top. My prediction is that the number of quality teams will be the same and they will end up being the same quality of the old Big East.

Tulane is not Duke. Duke brings everything else except a great football program. Tulane brings nothing. No basketball, other olympic sports, nothing...

Well, Tulane does bring New Orleans.

Don't kid yourself. That's what Aresco convinced you of when Tulane was added. Do you really think New Orleans folks are watching Tulane?

(11-27-2013 12:12 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 11:34 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Tulane=Duke. Both are actually having pretty good years this year.

For the trolls here, they are missing on an obvious point when talking about the bottom of the American.

USF Temple and Cincy are on new coaches. Tulane and Memphis are showing progress in their coaches 2nd year.

UConn has fired their coach...and SMU is considering it (although the buyout may be too big).

I don't think you can say the bottom of the conference is always going to be bad. I think a sleeper is Tulane...when they get into an on campus stadium with some talent, they will be hard to beat. My prediction is that they will make some noise going forward. Cincy has made progress throughout the season. USF just needs some more players and they will be back. Memphis needs to keep improving, they are at least competitive now.

Finally, the American is a 12 team conference going forward. The Big East was an 8 team conference. Just because you have a few bad football teams in a 12 team conference doesn't mean you will have a weaker conference than the Big East at the top. My prediction is that the number of quality teams will be the same and they will end up being the same quality of the old Big East.

Tulane is not Duke. Duke brings everything else except a great football program. Tulane brings nothing. No basketball, other olympic sports, nothing...

Tulane has a decent program in Women's Hoops (NIT level, 50-100 RPI), Women's Golf (recent tournament appearance), Men's Baseball, and Women's Volleyball (sub 50 RPI).

If you want to attack Tulane, I'd go for the following:
1. A poor basketball program that needs to fire its coach RIGHT NOW
2. An AD that lets failure slide for too long
3. Low attendance levels

(11-27-2013 12:27 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 12:12 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 11:34 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Tulane=Duke. Both are actually having pretty good years this year.

For the trolls here, they are missing on an obvious point when talking about the bottom of the American.

USF Temple and Cincy are on new coaches. Tulane and Memphis are showing progress in their coaches 2nd year.

UConn has fired their coach...and SMU is considering it (although the buyout may be too big).

I don't think you can say the bottom of the conference is always going to be bad. I think a sleeper is Tulane...when they get into an on campus stadium with some talent, they will be hard to beat. My prediction is that they will make some noise going forward. Cincy has made progress throughout the season. USF just needs some more players and they will be back. Memphis needs to keep improving, they are at least competitive now.

Finally, the American is a 12 team conference going forward. The Big East was an 8 team conference. Just because you have a few bad football teams in a 12 team conference doesn't mean you will have a weaker conference than the Big East at the top. My prediction is that the number of quality teams will be the same and they will end up being the same quality of the old Big East.

Tulane is not Duke. Duke brings everything else except a great football program. Tulane brings nothing. No basketball, other olympic sports, nothing...

Tulane has a decent program in Women's Hoops (NIT level, 50-100 RPI), Women's Golf (recent tournament appearance), Men's Baseball, and Women's Volleyball (sub 50 RPI).

If you want to attack Tulane, I'd go for the following:
1. A poor basketball program that needs to fire its coach RIGHT NOW
2. An AD that lets failure slide for too long
3. Low attendance levels

Truthfully, I'm just using Tulane as an example. I never understood the add when Aresco announced it. I get the whole New Orleans market thing, but you gotta consider competition as well.

(11-27-2013 12:27 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 12:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 12:12 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 11:34 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Tulane=Duke. Both are actually having pretty good years this year.

For the trolls here, they are missing on an obvious point when talking about the bottom of the American.

USF Temple and Cincy are on new coaches. Tulane and Memphis are showing progress in their coaches 2nd year.

UConn has fired their coach...and SMU is considering it (although the buyout may be too big).

I don't think you can say the bottom of the conference is always going to be bad. I think a sleeper is Tulane...when they get into an on campus stadium with some talent, they will be hard to beat. My prediction is that they will make some noise going forward. Cincy has made progress throughout the season. USF just needs some more players and they will be back. Memphis needs to keep improving, they are at least competitive now.

Finally, the American is a 12 team conference going forward. The Big East was an 8 team conference. Just because you have a few bad football teams in a 12 team conference doesn't mean you will have a weaker conference than the Big East at the top. My prediction is that the number of quality teams will be the same and they will end up being the same quality of the old Big East.

Tulane is not Duke. Duke brings everything else except a great football program. Tulane brings nothing. No basketball, other olympic sports, nothing...

Well, Tulane does bring New Orleans.

Don't kid yourself. That's what Aresco convinced you of when Tulane was added. Do you really think New Orleans folks are watching Tulane?

Well, a few folks there watch the Tulane games, but that's not what I meant by my comment. What I meant by my comment was ---when we play Tulane I get to go to New Orleans. When people play Duke they get to go to Durham.

Tulane is really an AD and a couple of good coaching hires away from having some good programs. They've got $$$, now all they need to do is use it to attract Nawlin's residents to their games.

a bit of a side comment: yeah our prior record sucks but I think we will be a lot more competitive going forward. Especially since Chapel hill gets to come to Greenville a bit. Nothing against Fedora and co, I think they'll make UNC pretty good (hurts to say that), but I expect Ruff to really build us up. As long as he's doing a good job he'll be here...exactly what we need.

(11-27-2013 01:40 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 12:27 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 12:20 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 12:12 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 11:34 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:  Tulane=Duke. Both are actually having pretty good years this year.

For the trolls here, they are missing on an obvious point when talking about the bottom of the American.

USF Temple and Cincy are on new coaches. Tulane and Memphis are showing progress in their coaches 2nd year.

UConn has fired their coach...and SMU is considering it (although the buyout may be too big).

I don't think you can say the bottom of the conference is always going to be bad. I think a sleeper is Tulane...when they get into an on campus stadium with some talent, they will be hard to beat. My prediction is that they will make some noise going forward. Cincy has made progress throughout the season. USF just needs some more players and they will be back. Memphis needs to keep improving, they are at least competitive now.

Finally, the American is a 12 team conference going forward. The Big East was an 8 team conference. Just because you have a few bad football teams in a 12 team conference doesn't mean you will have a weaker conference than the Big East at the top. My prediction is that the number of quality teams will be the same and they will end up being the same quality of the old Big East.

Tulane is not Duke. Duke brings everything else except a great football program. Tulane brings nothing. No basketball, other olympic sports, nothing...

Well, Tulane does bring New Orleans.

Don't kid yourself. That's what Aresco convinced you of when Tulane was added. Do you really think New Orleans folks are watching Tulane?

Well, a few folks there watch the Tulane games, but that's not what I meant by my comment. What I meant by my comment was ---when we play Tulane I get to go to New Orleans. When people play Duke they get to go to Durham.

I get that, the only problem is not many will make the trip.

(11-27-2013 01:47 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  Tulane is really an AD and a couple of good coaching hires away from having some good programs. They've got $$$, now all they need to do is use it to attract Nawlin's residents to their games.

a bit of a side comment: yeah our prior record sucks but I think we will be a lot more competitive going forward. Especially since Chapel hill gets to come to Greenville a bit. Nothing against Fedora and co, I think they'll make UNC pretty good (hurts to say that), but I expect Ruff to really build us up. As long as he's doing a good job he'll be here...exactly what we need.

ECU is fine. I have plenty of family and friends that went there. I actually root for them against everyone except UNC and FSU. With their OOC schedule, if ECU can run the table in the American, they should get selected to one of the big bowls in the future

(11-25-2013 08:04 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  

(11-25-2013 04:38 PM)CoogNellie Wrote:  

(11-25-2013 03:35 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  The American's top ranked member, and best team, is departing to the ACC.

BCS Standings:

19. UCF
20. Louisville

That doesn't necessarily make UCF the better team, does it? It just means that UCF beat Louisville. Louisville has better coaching and far more NFL talent, which is why they're ranked higher in non-computer polls, and why they get more respect than UCF.

What a reTard