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It's too bad that FBHC McGee made a mistake by hiring the wrong guy at DC. We all know that has NEVER happened before at any school, and certainly not at UAB. Yes, he made what turned out to be overoptimistic statements about UAB talent and facilities even before he even knew the player's names or what actual facilities he had to work with going in. Anyone who takes "coachspeak" as sworn testimony probably believes Nick Saban is still coaching at Miami.

If the questions I posed in another thread are answered to UAB's advantage, we will have a brighter future ahead of us and sooner rather than later.

Coaching pay is a function of the cultural market in which the job exists , not how successful the program will be. For every coach winning 3 FBNCs in 4 years, there are many whose pay is similar, but their results nothing special. That's why schools with "deep pockets" can fire coaches more readily (say, one 6-6 season) than most of the others.

(11-21-2013 12:59 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  It's too bad that FBHC McGee made a mistake by hiring the wrong guy at DC. We all know that has NEVER happened before at any school, and certainly not at UAB. Yes, he made what turned out to be overoptimistic statements about UAB talent and facilities even before he even knew the player's names or what actual facilities he had to work with going in. Anyone who takes "coachspeak" as sworn testimony probably believes Nick Saban is still coaching at Miami.

If the questions I posed in another thread are answered to UAB's advantage, we will have a brighter future ahead of us and sooner rather than later.

Coaching pay is a function of the cultural market in which the job exists , not how successful the program will be. For every coach winning 3 FBNCs in 4 years, there are many whose pay is similar, but their results nothing special. That's why schools with "deep pockets" can fire coaches more readily (say, one 6-6 season) than most of the others.

Southern Mississippi fahred Ellis Johnson after one lousy season when they were danged near broke..........had to go around begging money from boosters to buy him out. Your point is true though, schools with deep pockets won't even miss the buyout money. For anybody paying attention, the MAC produces a lot of good coaches, and their pay scale is about half what CUSA schools pay.

(11-20-2013 03:27 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(11-20-2013 03:07 PM)Dracorex Wrote:  We have a team that's like 75% underclassmen and 10 of our starters are injured. I'm not a sunshine pumper or anything but I do think that we should give it a bit more time before we start with the pitchforks

We've given it a long time. Every year we're this close. But it's one play, or one injury, or one coach, or whatever lame excuse you want to use. We've had 3 different coaches and had the same crappy results for a decade. I'm tired of excuses.

While I mostly agree with what you wrote after this quote above, I'd like to point out something about the quote above. McGee has only been here for just shy of 2 years, and no player on the roster has been here since we last went bowling. So this coach and these players can't carry all our frustration of the last decade. Most of our starters have only been at UAB for 1-3 years.

Our long-term frustration has been heard recently. We got out the pitchforks a mere two years ago when Callaway was fired, so we got our change. Surely, we knew it might take time to right the ship. Yes, we had high hopes for 6 wins this year, but it didn't happen. I don't think we're making excuses. We're only finding out that the project is going to take longer and be more difficult than we had hoped.

But we need to stay the course. There is still real hope for success next year!

(11-21-2013 01:34 PM)the Dragon Wrote:  

(11-20-2013 03:27 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(11-20-2013 03:07 PM)Dracorex Wrote:  We have a team that's like 75% underclassmen and 10 of our starters are injured. I'm not a sunshine pumper or anything but I do think that we should give it a bit more time before we start with the pitchforks

We've given it a long time. Every year we're this close. But it's one play, or one injury, or one coach, or whatever lame excuse you want to use. We've had 3 different coaches and had the same crappy results for a decade. I'm tired of excuses.

While I mostly agree with what you wrote after this quote above, I'd like to point out something about the quote above. McGee has only been here for just shy of 2 years, and no player on the roster has been here since we last went bowling. So this coach and these players can't carry all our frustration of the last decade. Most of our starters have only been at UAB for 1-3 years.

Our long-term frustration has been heard recently. We got out the pitchforks a mere two years ago when Callaway was fired, so we got our change. Surely, we knew it might take time to right the ship. Yes, we had high hopes for 6 wins this year, but it didn't happen. I don't think we're making excuses. We're only finding out that the project is going to take longer and be more difficult than we had hoped.

But we need to stay the course. There is still real hope for success next year!

I feel like we're Cubs fans... My point is, for the last decade there has always been saying hope for the next year. I'm tired of hearing that there's hope, I want to see something actually achieved on the field. I'm not asking for conference championships, or beating BCS teams, I'm just asking for 6 wins.

(11-21-2013 01:00 AM)Blazeramo Wrote:  

(11-20-2013 03:07 PM)Dracorex Wrote:  We have a team that's like 75% underclassmen and 10 of our starters are injured. I'm not a sunshine pumper or anything but I do think that we should give it a bit more time before we start with the pitchforks

McGee is not going to turn things around. Coaches that turn things around instill a new spirit from the beginning, Gill at Buffalo, Franklin at Vandy, etc. This does NOT necessarily mean winning records in the early years, but it means smart play, and hanging with the teams that are similar in talent to you. That hasn't happened with McGee--and it isn't going to. McGee has instilled no confidence, no excitement, and no buzz. Harsh, but no point in wasting more time.

Johnny Majors went 3-7, 3-7, and 5-6 his first 3 years at iowa st and went 1-6 in conference play each of those years. He went to bowl games the next 2 years.

(11-21-2013 11:26 AM)Bham Blazer Wrote:  

(11-21-2013 01:00 AM)Blazeramo Wrote:  

(11-20-2013 03:07 PM)Dracorex Wrote:  We have a team that's like 75% underclassmen and 10 of our starters are injured. I'm not a sunshine pumper or anything but I do think that we should give it a bit more time before we start with the pitchforks

McGee is not going to turn things around. Coaches that turn things around instill a new spirit from the beginning, Gill at Buffalo, Franklin at Vandy, etc. This does NOT necessarily mean winning records in the early years, but it means smart play, and hanging with the teams that are similar in talent to you. That hasn't happened with McGee--and it isn't going to. McGee has instilled no confidence, no excitement, and no buzz. Harsh, but no point in wasting more time.

You are correct. He has been mostly hot air from the get go. Had the wrong guy at DC. Then spends the off-season making adjustments to his defense "to stop CUSA style offenses". After that, the defense was worse than before, even before the injuries hit (Troy's QB record setting 30-32). Then, demoting the DC midseason, and still regressing. The QB's seem to struggle, even with decent OL play........and he coaches that position. Botched coin-tosses, numerous 12, 13, 14 men on the field penalties. Kicks popular star WR off the team, in favor of a ineligible transfer. This is the gamble you take when you hire a coach with no HC experience.

The funny thing about that to me, is all the so called "C-USA style offenses" that he wanted to stop are gone or leaving. Houston spread killed us...gone. ECU spread killed us...leaving. SMU spread killed us...gone. The new teams coming in don't exactly run the same style of offenses. Maybe we will tweak the defense again, one year late.

I couldn't wait to hear the postgame segment after this epic fail. I could feel the despondency in McGee's voice, but, he still projects defiance.

I could have sworn I heard him say something to the effect of if Rice was one of the best that Conference USA had to offer, then UAB isn't far away from reaching its' objective...Somehow, the word "suckage" came to mind when I heard this. Just incredible...I know that hindsight is 20/20, but did anyone find it peculiar for them to have the ball, 1st and goal inside the 10 with less than 3 minutes to go and 2 TO's, and not call a single running play?

So will we have to wait till monday for his press conference or will they do it earlier?

(11-21-2013 01:34 PM)the Dragon Wrote:  

(11-20-2013 03:27 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(11-20-2013 03:07 PM)Dracorex Wrote:  We have a team that's like 75% underclassmen and 10 of our starters are injured. I'm not a sunshine pumper or anything but I do think that we should give it a bit more time before we start with the pitchforks

We've given it a long time. Every year we're this close. But it's one play, or one injury, or one coach, or whatever lame excuse you want to use. We've had 3 different coaches and had the same crappy results for a decade. I'm tired of excuses.

While I mostly agree with what you wrote after this quote above, I'd like to point out something about the quote above. McGee has only been here for just shy of 2 years, and no player on the roster has been here since we last went bowling. So this coach and these players can't carry all our frustration of the last decade. Most of our starters have only been at UAB for 1-3 years.

Our long-term frustration has been heard recently. We got out the pitchforks a mere two years ago when Callaway was fired, so we got our change. Surely, we knew it might take time to right the ship. Yes, we had high hopes for 6 wins this year, but it didn't happen. I don't think we're making excuses. We're only finding out that the project is going to take longer and be more difficult than we had hoped.

But we need to stay the course. There is still real hope for success next year!

Totally agree. No one foresaw all of these injuries and their effects:
...4 safeties lost for year
...7 different starting safeties
...LBs playing safety
...RBs playing safety
...TEs playing DL
...OL playing DL
...losing 4 starting OLs
...OLs playing out of position
...losing both starting WR for multiple games
...losing multiple CBs during the year
...multiple players playing hurt for weeks
...less than 10 starters have played in every game
...playing DBs that were not even on the depth chart
...having to pull redshirts off kids just to have bodies to play
...not being able to adequately practice because you just don't have the bodies for a good scout team

I still have optimism for next year and beyond.

coach McGee doesnt understand how the clock work
He mess up a the end of the first half by not using more clock and give them the ball ,,and they score
he did the same mistake in miami and what about the troy game
We had the ball at the end of game with 2 good running back and good running qb ,,,we are in fg range ,,,,,
Anybody with any sense ,,,,,,will milk the clock until we can can kick a fg or better score by using time on the clock
UAB teams look better ,,,the play caller was predictable and clock management was horrible as usual ...and we lost again

Freaky right.