(11-18-2013 05:23 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 05:21 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 05:16 PM)Smaug Wrote:  My, you're an angry gnome, aren't you?

Well, bless your heart. Clearly someone's mama filled his childhood by telling him how special he was.










Note: This was not a shot at your mother, who I'm sure is/was a lovely person, but at her pompous son.

If I were you, I would stop talking about the topic too. It was a good choice even if it came too late to hide your shortcomings.

*sigh*

I'll type it more slowly this time.

The only people who've declared open season on young black men are other young black men.

Chew on that while you're playing the pseudo-intellectual. All your inflammatory race-baiting doesn't change this.

I'll see if I can help you understand the meaning of your point since you clearly don't get it. Look at two things for me:

1) Can you identify examples of where a right-winger on this board discusses the significantly higher rates of violent crime in the black community, attempts to identify root causes of that crime, and offers rational solutions designed to alleviate those violent crime rates? In other words, where a right-wing member of the board shows sincere concern about the plight of the black community.

2) Can you identify examples of where a right-winger uses black-on-black violence merely as a weak and misguided defense against allegations of racism?


Compare the incidences of the two. I'll help you get a start, you did the second above in this thread.

In case you don't get it yet, what you did in this thread exactly fit my description of right-wing behavior in the very post to which you were replying. Thanks for your support.

(11-18-2013 02:53 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 02:21 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  The gift that keeps on giving (if by giving you mean killing and threatening innocent women & children)

Who's killing innocent women and children?

I was about to type the exact sentence.

(11-18-2013 05:52 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  1) Can you identify examples of where a right-winger on this board discusses the significantly higher rates of violent crime in the black community, attempts to identify root causes of that crime, and offers rational solutions designed to alleviate those violent crime rates? In other words, where a right-wing member of the board shows sincere concern about the plight of the black community.

I believe a called it a problem. Now, why don't you thrill us with your acumen and give us your solutions.

How about this guy?

Scientific studies have consistently found that places with more guns have more violent deaths, both homicides and suicides. Women and children are more likely to die if there’s a gun in the house. The more guns in an area, the higher the local suicide rates. “Generally, if you live in a civilized society, more guns mean more death,” said David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. “There is no evidence that having more guns reduces crime. None at all.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/06/sunday....html?_r=0

(11-18-2013 03:39 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  He was instructed to say in the car. He was safe. He was standing Trayvon's ground from my point of view but the jury saw it differently and the verdict was accepted by all parties

No he was not instructed to stay in the car. He received a recommendation from someone who had no authority to instruct him. And standing your ground had nothing to do with this case or its outcome.

The prosecution has to prove certain predefined elements of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt in order to get a conviction. The prosecution never met that burden. Given that, there is no possible result but not guilty.

(11-18-2013 06:01 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  How about this guy?

Scientific studies have consistently found that places with more guns have more violent deaths, both homicides and suicides. Women and children are more likely to die if there’s a gun in the house. The more guns in an area, the higher the local suicide rates. “Generally, if you live in a civilized society, more guns mean more death,” said David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. “There is no evidence that having more guns reduces crime. None at all.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/06/sunday....html?_r=0

Those stats are flawed and I think you know where.

(11-18-2013 05:07 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 03:23 PM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 02:16 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loca...7318.story


Look who got arrested again!

You guys should date.

Positive Rep me and I'll vote for Obama in 2016

I said the same thing about you and Obama.

According to another thread I'm just his type...

(11-18-2013 06:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 06:01 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  How about this guy?

Scientific studies have consistently found that places with more guns have more violent deaths, both homicides and suicides. Women and children are more likely to die if there’s a gun in the house. The more guns in an area, the higher the local suicide rates. “Generally, if you live in a civilized society, more guns mean more death,” said David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. “There is no evidence that having more guns reduces crime. None at all.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/06/sunday....html?_r=0

Those stats are flawed and I think you know where.

How about you save me some time.

Are you going to dismiss every study that states that more guns = more crime?

For the record, we have an example of what disarming an entire population does to crime rates.

(11-18-2013 06:09 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 06:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 06:01 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  How about this guy?

Scientific studies have consistently found that places with more guns have more violent deaths, both homicides and suicides. Women and children are more likely to die if there’s a gun in the house. The more guns in an area, the higher the local suicide rates. “Generally, if you live in a civilized society, more guns mean more death,” said David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. “There is no evidence that having more guns reduces crime. None at all.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/06/sunday....html?_r=0

Those stats are flawed and I think you know where.

How about you save me some time.

Are you going to dismiss every study that states that more guns = more crime?

Google violent crime rates in industrialized nations. I'd post a graph but this stupid iPad sucks.

(11-18-2013 06:09 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 06:02 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 06:01 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  How about this guy?

Scientific studies have consistently found that places with more guns have more violent deaths, both homicides and suicides. Women and children are more likely to die if there’s a gun in the house. The more guns in an area, the higher the local suicide rates. “Generally, if you live in a civilized society, more guns mean more death,” said David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. “There is no evidence that having more guns reduces crime. None at all.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/06/sunday....html?_r=0

Those stats are flawed and I think you know where.

How about you save me some time.

Are you going to dismiss every study that states that more guns = more crime?

I'll save you some time. That's false.

(11-18-2013 06:01 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  How about this guy?

Scientific studies have consistently found that places with more guns have more violent deaths, both homicides and suicides. Women and children are more likely to die if there’s a gun in the house. The more guns in an area, the higher the local suicide rates. “Generally, if you live in a civilized society, more guns mean more death,” said David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. “There is no evidence that having more guns reduces crime. None at all.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/06/sunday....html?_r=0

Now that we've covered inanimate objects, let's concentrate on the cultural rot that has lead to such a devaluation of human life.

(11-18-2013 06:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 03:39 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  He was instructed to say in the car. He was safe. He was standing Trayvon's ground from my point of view but the jury saw it differently and the verdict was accepted by all parties

No he was not instructed to stay in the car. He received a recommendation from someone who had no authority to instruct him. And standing your ground had nothing to do with this case or its outcome.

The prosecution has to prove certain predefined elements of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt in order to get a conviction. The prosecution never met that burden. Given that, there is no possible result but not guilty.

In other words he needlessly killed an unarmed child

(11-18-2013 06:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  For the record, we have an example of what disarming an entire population does to crime rates.

we sure do and it's working extremely well in Australia

(11-18-2013 07:37 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 06:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 03:39 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  He was instructed to say in the car. He was safe. He was standing Trayvon's ground from my point of view but the jury saw it differently and the verdict was accepted by all parties

No he was not instructed to stay in the car. He received a recommendation from someone who had no authority to instruct him. And standing your ground had nothing to do with this case or its outcome.

The prosecution has to prove certain predefined elements of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt in order to get a conviction. The prosecution never met that burden. Given that, there is no possible result but not guilty.

In other words he needlessly killed an unarmed child

No.

(11-18-2013 07:38 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 06:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  For the record, we have an example of what disarming an entire population does to crime rates.

we sure do and it's working extremely well in Australia

How about Mexico?

(11-18-2013 07:38 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 06:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  For the record, we have an example of what disarming an entire population does to crime rates.

we sure do and it's working extremely well in Australia

Actually no.

First they weren't disarmed. There are more guns now than before.

Second, the impact has been almost nil. A graph of gun deaths before and after the law is a straight line.