(11-18-2013 06:25 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  The powers that be don't want ua in a BCS game. We are not going, they feel we are not worthy. We win out we are **** well qualified. But let this play out, last yesr we really were not talking as much BCS as this year, we sneaked up on the powers that be with Ohio St dqued and other haappenings. We were even an outside shi t aftrt our MACC win. Things have to happened for us and rhey dis.

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Lol...if by "as much" you mean 0% until December 7th

(11-18-2013 02:45 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  NIU clearly showed they were a better team than Iowa, EIU and Akron and were never really in much danger of losing. Were they closer than what it should have been? Yes, but we were never an easy FG away from losing.

Step away from the bong.

(11-18-2013 03:42 PM)HuskiemobileMan Wrote:  There is no reason why we should be behind Fresno. The unbiased computer rankings prove this. We have a lot of biased voters keeping us behind them.

Computers calculating subjective data still makes the results subjective

(11-18-2013 06:35 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 02:45 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  NIU clearly showed they were a better team than Iowa, EIU and Akron and were never really in much danger of losing. Were they closer than what it should have been? Yes, but we were never an easy FG away from losing.

Step away from the bong.

Yeah you're right. We should already have three losses and have no business being upset that we're behind Fresno.

(11-18-2013 04:23 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 03:45 PM)shack66 Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 03:37 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 03:30 PM)shack66 Wrote:  In all honesty, I think we had control over Iowa until they had the ball at the end. It was a last possession opportunity for a win. If Jimmy Ward doesn't get the interception, we lose by a FG. I was not confident we would pull that off at the end and I think most of you would be lying if you said you were. EIU had an amazing first quarter, but after that NIU dominated. Non issue. Idaho we played our first half poor made adjustments like we always do and were in control the second half as always. down 7 at half and outscored them 24-7 in the second half.

Most of our games show that we have depth and conditioning, not necessarily overly skilled players. Still the makings of a good team.

I'd like to know what happened to Rock. Having Payton step up last week was huge. Not sure I would be confident in a full game with him, but at least he was in better position that Santa.

Name me a team that had more skill all around than NIU. The only team I could possibly throw in that argument is Iowa because they are so strong defensively.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find an offense with the array of skills that NIU has. All-purpose player like TLL, a 4.3 guy like Brown, a bruiser like Stingily, and a dude named Lynch.

NIU has for sure been the most deep team of the opponents (barring Iowa, they have BigTen depth but lack NIU skill players) and has been the most well conditioned as well, but don't sell them short on skill.

Santa, Logan, Moore, Evans are not skilled players. We don't get enough pressure up front to hide them either. Are you saying we have more skill than Wisconsin, LSU, USC or even Minnesota for that matter. Our wins are team wins not skill wins. That is my point. I didn't say we didn't have some skill players. One easily the best in the MAC, but without him, were 7-5 this year.

I don't think you understand what I'm saying.

Also, when the heck did NIU play Wisconsin, LSU, USC or Minnesota this year? You're completely changing the context.

I'd say all those guys you called out are skilled players, they did make it d1. Plus, calling out Evans is just bad, kid has been hurt.

BTW, Minnesota's skill players aren't better than NIU's. They get it done by playing physical football and pounding the rock. On the outside athlete for athlete, NIU would win that battle. The other teams you threw in for no apparent reason are obviously leaps and bounds more athletic. You make yourself look like an idiot for even changing my comparison to them.

I was comparing NIU's all-around skill to each opponent they played. NIU's all around skill was better than all of them. That's why they beat Iowa, housed a few teams (UMass, EMU, Purdue), beat Kent. The depth was the key in Idaho, EIU, and Ball State.

I mentioned those teams because they are teams we are ahead of in this weeks poll. There are over 100 teams in D1. If all those players all have skill according to you, then what are we talking about? You replied to my post, so who changed what? We played three teams with winning records, so um..yeah were better than those guys? And your calling me an idiot?

Brown is no where near a 4.3 40. He has a fast game speed but actually timed closer to 4.7 which is actually slower than what Beebe ran (4.6). TLL fastest time was 4.38. Brinlee is probably our second fastest receiver.