History says the Buckeyes not making the Championship game would be most fortunate.

In the entire history of Buckeye football the two programs that have fared
the best against Ohio State are the two teams currently ranked ahead of
them… and the team that the Buckeyes are currently slated to face in the
Rose Bowl is the one program in which Ohio State holds their best all-time record.

It's the 100th Rose Bowl. I'm in a small minority, but I would only barely prefer the national championship bowl over the Rose Bowl this year. One last season of a traditional ending.

Edit: That said, don't sell us out on this. Alabama could very easily lose to Auburn or in the SEC Championship Game and I'm predicting Oklahoma State beats Baylor regardless.

(11-18-2013 09:54 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  It's the 100th Rose Bowl. I'm in a small minority, but I would only barely prefer the national championship bowl over the Rose Bowl this year. One last season of a traditional ending.

Edit: That said, don't sell us out on this. Alabama could very easily lose to Auburn or in the SEC Championship Game and I'm predicting Oklahoma State beats Baylor regardless.

I don't like Ohio State and I'm not partial to the B1G, but I think OSU would give both Alabama or FSU a good game. Neither of those teams are world-beaters (this is the weakest Alabama team of the last 4 years, with the possible exception of 2010) and FSU has played absolutely nobody. OSU is a talented team and they have a great coach with a long record of beating up on FSU teams.

A national title game between Alabama and OSU or FSU and OSU would be well-worth watching.

(11-18-2013 10:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  A national title game between Alabama and OSU or FSU and OSU would be well-worth watching.

Yeah, for Bama and FSU fans.

Ohio State cannot run with southern schools.

I can't wait to watch the Buckeye fans cry and pout once Baylor jumps them. Gonna be fun!


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(11-18-2013 11:50 AM)CoogNellie Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 10:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  A national title game between Alabama and OSU or FSU and OSU would be well-worth watching.

Yeah, for Bama and FSU fans.

Ohio State cannot run with southern schools.

Really? Have you watched them?

(11-18-2013 10:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 09:54 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  It's the 100th Rose Bowl. I'm in a small minority, but I would only barely prefer the national championship bowl over the Rose Bowl this year. One last season of a traditional ending.

Edit: That said, don't sell us out on this. Alabama could very easily lose to Auburn or in the SEC Championship Game and I'm predicting Oklahoma State beats Baylor regardless.

I don't like Ohio State and I'm not partial to the B1G, but I think OSU would give both Alabama or FSU a good game. Neither of those teams are world-beaters (this is the weakest Alabama team of the last 4 years, with the possible exception of 2010) and FSU has played absolutely nobody. OSU is a talented team and they have a great coach with a long record of beating up on FSU teams.

A national title game between Alabama and OSU or FSU and OSU would be well-worth watching.

So if FSU has played nobody, why are they tied with Alabama for the best computer ratings?

They are winning by an average of 42 points a game. That's just ridiculous period..

The problem with judging the Buckeyes is that they have truly played not one single team of note. The only OOC game against a decent conference was California which is something like 1-9. They won't catch Sparty until the championship game. They did beat Wisconsin. But like their victory over Northwestern their win over the Badgers was less than convincing.

We won't know what the Buckeyes truly have until they play in a bowl. The biggest mystery to be answered right now is "How did Michigan State lose to Notre Dame?" It was either an anomaly or Michigan State is weaker than everyone thinks as well. We'll see.

But either way the Big 10 needs to spread its OOC games around between the PAC, ACC, SEC, and Big 12. Otherwise they will continue to suffer because of lack of comparisons. I'm not saying they need to schedule more than 1 difficult OOC game, but when they do they need to make sure their teams spread those games around the country.

(11-18-2013 12:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  The problem with judging the Buckeyes is that they have truly played not one single team of note. The only OOC game against a decent conference was California which is something like 1-9. They won't catch Sparty until the championship game. They did beat Wisconsin. But like their victory over Northwestern their win over the Badgers was less than convincing.

We won't know what the Buckeyes truly have until they play in a bowl. The biggest mystery to be answered right now is "How did Michigan State lose to Notre Dame?" It was either an anomaly or Michigan State is weaker than everyone thinks as well. We'll see.

But either way the Big 10 needs to spread its OOC games around between the PAC, ACC, SEC, and Big 12. Otherwise they will continue to suffer because of lack of comparisons. I'm not saying they need to schedule more than 1 difficult OOC game, but when they do they need to make sure their teams spread those games around the country.

Actually, the biggest mystery to be answered is how did West Virginia beat Oklahoma State?

And to think if that doesn't happen, this weeks game between Baylor and Oklahoma St could easily be to see who would be going to the title game this year.

Nah. Oklahoma State wouldn't have risen fast enough in the rankings for that since they weren't crushing people like Baylor. People forget,they almost lost the following week to Kansas St.

FSU would toy with tOSU.

(11-18-2013 01:46 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  FSU would toy with tOSU.

Sounds similar to what was said about Miami in 2002.

(11-18-2013 01:20 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 12:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  The problem with judging the Buckeyes is that they have truly played not one single team of note. The only OOC game against a decent conference was California which is something like 1-9. They won't catch Sparty until the championship game. They did beat Wisconsin. But like their victory over Northwestern their win over the Badgers was less than convincing.

We won't know what the Buckeyes truly have until they play in a bowl. The biggest mystery to be answered right now is "How did Michigan State lose to Notre Dame?" It was either an anomaly or Michigan State is weaker than everyone thinks as well. We'll see.

But either way the Big 10 needs to spread its OOC games around between the PAC, ACC, SEC, and Big 12. Otherwise they will continue to suffer because of lack of comparisons. I'm not saying they need to schedule more than 1 difficult OOC game, but when they do they need to make sure their teams spread those games around the country.

Actually, the biggest mystery to be answered is how did West Virginia beat Oklahoma State?

And to think if that doesn't happen, this weeks game between Baylor and Oklahoma St could easily be to see who would be going to the title game this year.

That is an equally good mystery to explore. Right now there are only two explanations: 1. Oklahoma State had a really bad day. 2. The Big 12 with the possible exception of Baylor is really weak this year. We'll see.

Ohio State's offense is great... they can score on anyone.

Their defense is atrocious... probably the worst OSU defense in the past 10 years.

IMO, Alabama and FSU are easily the top 2 teams in the country right now... although I do like Baylor's offense.

(11-18-2013 03:38 PM)mlb Wrote:  Ohio State's offense is great... they can score on anyone.

Their defense is atrocious... probably the worst OSU defense in the past 10 years.

In my view, to be more specific, the worst set of OSU linebackers in the past decade at least. That's the only thing that makes me a tiny bit nervous about TSUN this year and completely on the fence whether I look on the Buckeyes as favorites against a potential Spartan opponent in the CCG ... the reliance on the defensive line and secondary to do their job and also cover for the weakness at linebacker.

(11-18-2013 05:03 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 03:38 PM)mlb Wrote:  Ohio State's offense is great... they can score on anyone.

Their defense is atrocious... probably the worst OSU defense in the past 10 years.

In my view, to be more specific, the worst set of OSU linebackers in the past decade at least. That's the only thing that makes me a tiny bit nervous about TSUN this year and completely on the fence whether I look on the Buckeyes as favorites against a potential Spartan opponent in the CCG ... the reliance on the defensive line and secondary to do their job and also cover for the weakness at linebacker.

The interesting aspect to this Buckeye defense is that they eventually wear down the opposition.

Come fourth quarter they start dominating… I’m sure this is the result of
frequent substitutions (something that might be difficult against an offense like Oregon)

(11-18-2013 02:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 01:20 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 12:28 PM)JRsec Wrote:  The problem with judging the Buckeyes is that they have truly played not one single team of note. The only OOC game against a decent conference was California which is something like 1-9. They won't catch Sparty until the championship game. They did beat Wisconsin. But like their victory over Northwestern their win over the Badgers was less than convincing.

We won't know what the Buckeyes truly have until they play in a bowl. The biggest mystery to be answered right now is "How did Michigan State lose to Notre Dame?" It was either an anomaly or Michigan State is weaker than everyone thinks as well. We'll see.

But either way the Big 10 needs to spread its OOC games around between the PAC, ACC, SEC, and Big 12. Otherwise they will continue to suffer because of lack of comparisons. I'm not saying they need to schedule more than 1 difficult OOC game, but when they do they need to make sure their teams spread those games around the country.

Actually, the biggest mystery to be answered is how did West Virginia beat Oklahoma State?

And to think if that doesn't happen, this weeks game between Baylor and Oklahoma St could easily be to see who would be going to the title game this year.

That is an equally good mystery to explore. Right now there are only two explanations: 1. Oklahoma State had a really bad day. 2. The Big 12 with the possible exception of Baylor is really weak this year. We'll see.

My explanation is Dana Holgorsen.......he installed OSU's offense when he was their offensive coordinator in 2011.

Therefore he knew pretty much what they were going to do and knew much of their personnel.

The Buckeyes offense is great right now. It would be fun to watch them against either Bama or FSU. That said there is no reason they should be above either of them (or an unbeaten Baylor). I think FSU has been the best team all year. They are really freaking good and just rolling teams. If they played Bama next week I'd take FSU. Of course if both run the table and play in a bowl game I'll take Bama, because I don't bet against Saban with that long to prepare.

In all reality OSU has nobody to blame but themselves. Their non-conference schedule was abysmal. When you are in a league that is this poor you have to play some teams out of conference Stop playing MAC teams at home every week and go play some big teams (actually credit to them it seems that they are going to do that in the future)

(11-18-2013 12:07 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 10:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-18-2013 09:54 AM)ohio1317 Wrote:  It's the 100th Rose Bowl. I'm in a small minority, but I would only barely prefer the national championship bowl over the Rose Bowl this year. One last season of a traditional ending.

Edit: That said, don't sell us out on this. Alabama could very easily lose to Auburn or in the SEC Championship Game and I'm predicting Oklahoma State beats Baylor regardless.

I don't like Ohio State and I'm not partial to the B1G, but I think OSU would give both Alabama or FSU a good game. Neither of those teams are world-beaters (this is the weakest Alabama team of the last 4 years, with the possible exception of 2010) and FSU has played absolutely nobody. OSU is a talented team and they have a great coach with a long record of beating up on FSU teams.

A national title game between Alabama and OSU or FSU and OSU would be well-worth watching.

So if FSU has played nobody, why are they tied with Alabama for the best computer ratings?

They are winning by an average of 42 points a game. That's just ridiculous period..

FSU's SOS is what, around #70? It's a soft schedule and will get softer.

I do think the Big Ten has been way too loyal to the MAC. No reason why the Big Ten should have played 13 games against the MAC(after playing 10 FCS games). Everyone focuses so much on the FCS games, but the MAC games are no better.