Good length discussion, 4 minutes of Mel Kiper Jr. and Todd McShay debate if Northern Illinois deserves to play in a BCS game and which team would make the final spot in the College Football Playoff this season.

Mention Jimmie Ward being drafter early to mid round...

Mel Kiper approves NIU, McShay doesn't....

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9975323...api_public

Some reason my computer wont let me play espn videos. any ideas?

Are they debating whether we deserve it over Fresno or just in general?

McShay had a really good argument....NIU doesn't deserve to go to a BCS Bowl because they got "blown out" by Florida State last year by 21 points. And if NIU goes to a BCS Bowl, it will take a spot away from a deserving team like Clemson.....a team that lost to Florida State this year by 37. Great arguement McShay, real solid.

(11-14-2013 01:28 PM)HUSKIE44 Wrote:  McShay had a really good argument....NIU doesn't deserve to go to a BCS Bowl because they got "blown out" by Florida State last year by 21 points. And if NIU goes to a BCS Bowl, it will take a spot away from a deserving team like Clemson.....a team that lost to Florida State this year by 37. Great arguement McShay, real solid.

+1, Awesome job sir

(11-14-2013 01:47 PM)foch41 Wrote:  

(11-14-2013 01:28 PM)HUSKIE44 Wrote:  McShay had a really good argument....NIU doesn't deserve to go to a BCS Bowl because they got "blown out" by Florida State last year by 21 points. And if NIU goes to a BCS Bowl, it will take a spot away from a deserving team like Clemson.....a team that lost to Florida State this year by 37. Great arguement McShay, real solid.

+1, Awesome job sir

Very nice. Clemson was not even in that game by half....and AT HOME!

(11-14-2013 01:28 PM)HUSKIE44 Wrote:  McShay had a really good argument....NIU doesn't deserve to go to a BCS Bowl because they got "blown out" by Florida State last year by 21 points. And if NIU goes to a BCS Bowl, it will take a spot away from a deserving team like Clemson.....a team that lost to Florida State this year by 37. Great arguement McShay, real solid.

(11-14-2013 01:28 PM)HUSKIE44 Wrote:  McShay had a really good argument....NIU doesn't deserve to go to a BCS Bowl because they got "blown out" by Florida State last year by 21 points. And if NIU goes to a BCS Bowl, it will take a spot away from a deserving team like Clemson.....a team that lost to Florida State this year by 37. Great arguement McShay, real solid.

Likewise, Florida State does not belong in the National Championship game, because they lost two games last year.

What was the score of Clemson's last BCS game? 2012 Orange Bowl: West Virginia 70, Clemson 33. Yeah, they are more deserving.

(11-14-2013 02:31 PM)Doggone Wrote:  What was the score of Clemson's last BCS game? 2012 Orange Bowl: West Virginia 70, Clemson 33. Yeah, they are more deserving.

Wait a minute, are you saying that last year's Orange Bowl was more competitive than the previous two which featured all AQ teams? That sounds silly.

The next thing you're going to say is that the 2013 Orange Bowl wasn't the most lopsided score of last year's BCS games.


Err, wait...

NOBODY look at Deadspin's football rankings....

(11-14-2013 03:25 PM)NIU8484 Wrote:  NOBODY look at Deadspin's football rankings....

Wooooow #30!?!?

(11-14-2013 03:25 PM)NIU8484 Wrote:  NOBODY look at Deadspin's football rankings....

#30. No comments, either! Wow.

I think it's because NIU's a "directional" school, where Fresno State is non-directional and has been known OF, historically.

(11-14-2013 03:32 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  #30. No comments, either! Wow.

I think it's because NIU's a "directional" school, where Fresno State is non-directional and has been known OF, historically.

That's true. After all, you have to be pretty good in the first place to hold the record for "Worst Margin Of Defeat Ever By A Ranked Team"

This Game

The BEST part of the deadspin rankings is his preseason rankings

Fresno #24
NIU #25

After Week 1, NIU winning on the road in Iowa gets them dropped 9 spots to #33, while Fresno's 1 pt win at home against Rutgers gets them to #23...ridiculous

Awesome article link, from 1990. I'm going to log into a Fresno board and post that article + find one about the Humanitarian Bowl in 2010.

I should say, "What? You only want to play NIU every 20 years to avoid getting MACtion up your glory hole too often?"

I could start a riot. :)