MAC highest rated non-AQ conference using next year's formula for distributing revenue to the conferences.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/d...n-illinois

The formula currently shows the MAC has the best of those leagues followed by the Mountain West, Sun Belt and Conference USA. That, despite Fresno State -- from the Mountain West -- being ahead of Northern Illinois -- from the MAC -- in the BCS standings.
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Lol. The MAC has figured out how to game the system. 7 teams in the MAC have 3 wins or less.

This is why I don't think the AAC and even the MWC will enjoy the company they currently keep. There's enough between the two, with BYU, to make another conference. The question is: can they work together?

(11-09-2013 11:36 AM)canewton Wrote:  Lol. The MAC has figured out how to game the system. 7 teams in the MAC have 3 wins or less.

Too bad Temple left.

(11-09-2013 10:28 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  MAC highest rated non-AQ conference using next year's formula for distributing revenue to the conferences.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/d...n-illinois

The formula currently shows the MAC has the best of those leagues followed by the Mountain West, Sun Belt and Conference USA. That, despite Fresno State -- from the Mountain West -- being ahead of Northern Illinois -- from the MAC -- in the BCS standings.
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CUSA may regret adding the bottom feeder big market Sun Belt teams and UNCC. This formula discourages adding schools from FCS.

(11-09-2013 12:55 PM)bullet Wrote:  CUSA may regret adding the bottom feeder big market Sun Belt teams and UNCC. This formula discourages adding schools from FCS.

No regrets, here. One of the problems with your statement is that our so called "bottom feeders" this year are UAB, Southern Miss, and UTEP, all three of which are legacy C-USA teams. As to Sun Belt adds, yes, FIU is not doing well, but Middle Tennessee and FAU are playing good football, and North Texas is in a dog fight with Rice and Tulane for the West title. We'll be fine, but thanks for your concern.

MAC football has been considered a cut above CUSA/SBC football for a while.

2011: The MAC wins the Bowl Challenge Series with a 4-1 record in bowl games.

2012: Four MAC teams appear in the Top 25 that season (Ohio, KSU, NIU, Toledo) and the MAC places a school in the Orange Bowl.

2013: The MAC has 6 bowl eligible teams before November 1st and is rated as the top non-AQ conference on the year ahead of the MWC, CUSA, SBC.

It isn't like things have happened overnight for the MAC. This has been part of a gradual upswing for the conference over the last 5 years. The recruiting benefit of MACtion midweek games is finally starting to kick in after their implementation in the mid 2000's.

F_U is probably who he was talking about.

I think there could be some real interesting match ups between the MAC and the SBC etc.

(11-09-2013 05:29 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  MAC football has been considered a cut above CUSA/SBC football for a while.

2011: The MAC wins the Bowl Challenge Series with a 4-1 record in bowl games.

2012: Four MAC teams appear in the Top 25 that season (Ohio, KSU, NIU, Toledo) and the MAC places a school in the Orange Bowl.

2013: The MAC has 6 bowl eligible teams before November 1st and is rated as the top non-AQ conference on the year ahead of the MWC, CUSA, SBC.

It isn't like things have happened overnight for the MAC. This has been part of a gradual upswing for the conference over the last 5 years. The recruiting benefit of MACtion midweek games is finally starting to kick in after their implementation in the mid 2000's.

It has been a gradual upward swing, but until last year, no one except maybe the computers thought the MAC was better than CUSA.

(11-09-2013 05:11 PM)Cnelson203 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:55 PM)bullet Wrote:  CUSA may regret adding the bottom feeder big market Sun Belt teams and UNCC. This formula discourages adding schools from FCS.

No regrets, here. One of the problems with your statement is that our so called "bottom feeders" this year are UAB, Southern Miss, and UTEP, all three of which are legacy C-USA teams. As to Sun Belt adds, yes, FIU is not doing well, but Middle Tennessee and FAU are playing good football, and North Texas is in a dog fight with Rice and Tulane for the West title. We'll be fine, but thanks for your concern.

FAU is 3-6. Meanwhile, the 5 longtime Sun Belt schools left behind all are .500 or better. Sun Belt is winning 44.4% of its ooc games against FBS. CUSA is next to last at 25.5% ahead of only the MAC who is at 25%.

(11-09-2013 06:16 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 05:29 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  MAC football has been considered a cut above CUSA/SBC football for a while.

2011: The MAC wins the Bowl Challenge Series with a 4-1 record in bowl games.

2012: Four MAC teams appear in the Top 25 that season (Ohio, KSU, NIU, Toledo) and the MAC places a school in the Orange Bowl.

2013: The MAC has 6 bowl eligible teams before November 1st and is rated as the top non-AQ conference on the year ahead of the MWC, CUSA, SBC.

It isn't like things have happened overnight for the MAC. This has been part of a gradual upswing for the conference over the last 5 years. The recruiting benefit of MACtion midweek games is finally starting to kick in after their implementation in the mid 2000's.

It has been a gradual upward swing, but until last year, no one except maybe the computers thought the MAC was better than CUSA.

True.

the computers are what counts however.

One point- next year, AAC is in there- and I think they are well ahead of even the MAC this year.

(11-09-2013 06:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  the computers are what counts however.

One point- next year, AAC is in there- and I think they are well ahead of even the MAC this year.

I have posted the historical Sagarin numbers before and the AAC is ahead of the other G5 conferences by a wide margin.

With the amount of games on National TV and the diverse recruiting grounds the AAC should be able to maintain their margin on the G5. The bottom fell out of UConn this year but one has to think they'll be back soon and other programs that are down now have the resources to improve.

(11-09-2013 06:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  the computers are what counts however.

One point- next year, AAC is in there- and I think they are well ahead of even the MAC this year.

Based on what? Computers only?

(11-09-2013 07:14 PM)lance99 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 06:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  the computers are what counts however.

One point- next year, AAC is in there- and I think they are well ahead of even the MAC this year.

Based on what? Computers only?

yup...

(11-09-2013 07:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 07:14 PM)lance99 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 06:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  the computers are what counts however.

One point- next year, AAC is in there- and I think they are well ahead of even the MAC this year.

Based on what? Computers only?

yup...

Computers are not going to be part of the future CFP standings though.

All that will matter is W/L record and quality wins. To some extent the AAC will have a quality win edge if it can sport multiple Top 25 teams every year.

(11-09-2013 09:11 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 07:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 07:14 PM)lance99 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 06:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  the computers are what counts however.

One point- next year, AAC is in there- and I think they are well ahead of even the MAC this year.

Based on what? Computers only?

yup...

Computers are not going to be part of the future CFP standings though.

All that will matter is W/L record and quality wins.

There will have to be some objective matter for breaking that down though. It's not just going to be I think that the MAC is better than the AAC without something factual. W/L record will NEVER be the deciding factor alone because you could play all little sisters of the poor and get your w/l record crazy good.

(11-09-2013 10:28 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  MAC highest rated non-AQ conference using next year's formula for distributing revenue to the conferences.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/d...n-illinois

The formula currently shows the MAC has the best of those leagues followed by the Mountain West, Sun Belt and Conference USA. That, despite Fresno State -- from the Mountain West -- being ahead of Northern Illinois -- from the MAC -- in the BCS standings.
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The only people in the seats at the Miami game were the bands. Maybe you are having a bad year, but come on...

(11-09-2013 09:14 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 10:28 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  MAC highest rated non-AQ conference using next year's formula for distributing revenue to the conferences.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/d...n-illinois

The formula currently shows the MAC has the best of those leagues followed by the Mountain West, Sun Belt and Conference USA. That, despite Fresno State -- from the Mountain West -- being ahead of Northern Illinois -- from the MAC -- in the BCS standings.
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The only people in the seats at the Miami game were the bands. Maybe you are having a bad year, but come on...

It's bad (probably 3-4k showed up, paid attendance was just over 10k), especially with good November weather. But honestly, if Mizzou went 4-8 two years in a row and then had a weeknight game while going through a (likely) winless season, how many people would show up? Obviously a lot more than us, but most AQ schools under those conditions would draw crappy crowds considering the big name opponents and (generally) larger student enrollments/alumni.

On another note, I'm curious as to what the AAC's "rating" looks like this year if you calculate it minus Louisville/Rutgers and add the the other schools joining in the next few years.

(11-09-2013 09:45 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 09:14 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 10:28 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  MAC highest rated non-AQ conference using next year's formula for distributing revenue to the conferences.

http://mweb.cbssports.com/ncaaf/writer/d...n-illinois

The formula currently shows the MAC has the best of those leagues followed by the Mountain West, Sun Belt and Conference USA. That, despite Fresno State -- from the Mountain West -- being ahead of Northern Illinois -- from the MAC -- in the BCS standings.
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The only people in the seats at the Miami game were the bands. Maybe you are having a bad year, but come on...

It's bad (probably 3-4k showed up, paid attendance was just over 10k), especially with good November weather. But honestly, if Mizzou went 4-8 two years in a row and then had a weeknight game while going through a (likely) winless season, how many people would show up? Obviously a lot more than us, but most AQ schools under those conditions would draw crappy crowds considering the big name opponents and (generally) larger student enrollments/alumni.

On another note, I'm curious as to what the AAC's "rating" looks like this year if you calculate it minus Louisville/Rutgers and add the the other schools joining in the next few years.

Probably close to the same. We lose RUtgers (5-3) and Louisville (8-1). We gain ECU (7-2), Tulane (6-3), Navy (5-4), and Tulsa (2-7). Only Tulsa is really damaging. Three of the 4 are pretty decent, so the conference would not fall a whole lot.