(11-09-2013 12:20 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:18 PM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 11:47 AM)NIU1981 Wrote:  I didn't see the segment so I'm just reacting to what I've read here. Those who quibble with our strength of schedule have a valid point, our SOS sucks. But it's hilarious that The Gerbils would look at the Purdue game and try to pull a negative from that. Yes, Purdue is bad. But they are still a Big 10 team that we took to the woodshed in their own house, putting up 55 points and leaving quite a few more out there as I recall. Did we give up some yards? Yes we did. We also had our backups in the game early in the second half because we were killing them so bad. Those guys are completely nuts.

One more note: If style points count so much we could have left Lynch in the game and scored 80+. Maybe we should start doing that.

We took Purdue to the woodshed by having Purdue turn the ball over 5 times, getting a KRTD, and a pick-6. Two of the INTs were tipped balls where our guys were in the right place at the right time.

Purdue's offense had 250-300 yards in the first half on our first team defense, they moved the ball easily on us, but we capitalized on opportunities where the ball bounced our way. Had the ball not bounced our way, we had the rare defensive score and special teams TD in the same game, we would've been in a shoot out like we were with EIU and Idaho. And that is why they feel we're overrated. It's not an unreasonable view.

Sure it was a great win, but we didn't beat them 56-0 and give up 116 yards in the game like Ohio State did last week That is the kind of performance where people will agree you would win the game 10 of 10 times, and earn the respect most on this head are claiming NIU is lacking.

Oh my good lord are we really being scrutinized for playing backups hahaha HuskieJoe come on this is just ridiculous. You are defending ESPN to the grave. Michigan St. won by less points over Purdue than NIU did, Michigan State is ahead of NIU. NIU could have scored as many points as they wanted to in that game. If you really think scoring 70 vs 55 is going to change ESPN's impression of the Huskies, you are delusional.

We are not being scrutinized for playing backups, we're scrutinized since our defense has not been impressive except being respectable against the bottom of the MAC.

I don't think scoring 70 would have impressed ESPN, but holding Purdue to 300-350 yards would have made the win more respectable.

BTW - Michigan State shut out Purdue and held them to 226 yards. Sure winning 14-0 isn't that great, but that's far from their signature win also.

(11-09-2013 12:46 PM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:20 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:18 PM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 11:47 AM)NIU1981 Wrote:  I didn't see the segment so I'm just reacting to what I've read here. Those who quibble with our strength of schedule have a valid point, our SOS sucks. But it's hilarious that The Gerbils would look at the Purdue game and try to pull a negative from that. Yes, Purdue is bad. But they are still a Big 10 team that we took to the woodshed in their own house, putting up 55 points and leaving quite a few more out there as I recall. Did we give up some yards? Yes we did. We also had our backups in the game early in the second half because we were killing them so bad. Those guys are completely nuts.

One more note: If style points count so much we could have left Lynch in the game and scored 80+. Maybe we should start doing that.

We took Purdue to the woodshed by having Purdue turn the ball over 5 times, getting a KRTD, and a pick-6. Two of the INTs were tipped balls where our guys were in the right place at the right time.

Purdue's offense had 250-300 yards in the first half on our first team defense, they moved the ball easily on us, but we capitalized on opportunities where the ball bounced our way. Had the ball not bounced our way, we had the rare defensive score and special teams TD in the same game, we would've been in a shoot out like we were with EIU and Idaho. And that is why they feel we're overrated. It's not an unreasonable view.

Sure it was a great win, but we didn't beat them 56-0 and give up 116 yards in the game like Ohio State did last week That is the kind of performance where people will agree you would win the game 10 of 10 times, and earn the respect most on this head are claiming NIU is lacking.

Oh my good lord are we really being scrutinized for playing backups hahaha HuskieJoe come on this is just ridiculous. You are defending ESPN to the grave. Michigan St. won by less points over Purdue than NIU did, Michigan State is ahead of NIU. NIU could have scored as many points as they wanted to in that game. If you really think scoring 70 vs 55 is going to change ESPN's impression of the Huskies, you are delusional.

We are not being scrutinized for playing backups, we're scrutinized since our defense has not been impressive except being respectable against the bottom of the MAC.

I don't think scoring 70 would have impressed ESPN, but holding Purdue to 300-350 yards would have made the win more respectable.

BTW - Michigan State shut out Purdue and held them to 226 yards. Sure winning 14-0 isn't that great, but that's far from their signature win also.

You are completely delusional lol. You really think ESPN is trying to block NIU out of a BCS bowl because they only blew out Purdue and didn't really really blow them out? I just have no words left lol

(11-09-2013 12:46 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:42 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  VOTERS could careless what ESPN THINKS, but they may consider the facts of an argument to form their own opinion.

Voters are not random citizens watching tv.....

What in the world are you talking about? It makes a huge difference. Voters do not DVR all 60 college football games each week and watch each game. What the national media puts out becomes perception and that perception becomes reality. We have already seen the effects of the ESPN 1-hour NIU bashathon last season on the lack of mobility this year compared to Fresno.

Well we'll find out on Sunday if the pollsters leave NIU where they are, or follow ESPNs opinions and drop us out of the top 25.

(11-09-2013 12:48 PM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:46 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:42 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  VOTERS could careless what ESPN THINKS, but they may consider the facts of an argument to form their own opinion.

Voters are not random citizens watching tv.....

What in the world are you talking about? It makes a huge difference. Voters do not DVR all 60 college football games each week and watch each game. What the national media puts out becomes perception and that perception becomes reality. We have already seen the effects of the ESPN 1-hour NIU bashathon last season on the lack of mobility this year compared to Fresno.

Well we'll find out on Sunday if the pollsters leave NIU where they are, or follow ESPNs opinions and drop us out of the top 25.

I think the main effect of ESPN will be to cap NIU where they are, any upward mobility will be tough to come by since they "wont be doing their job" if they allowNIU in the top 16

(11-09-2013 12:48 PM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:46 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:42 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  VOTERS could careless what ESPN THINKS, but they may consider the facts of an argument to form their own opinion.

Voters are not random citizens watching tv.....

What in the world are you talking about? It makes a huge difference. Voters do not DVR all 60 college football games each week and watch each game. What the national media puts out becomes perception and that perception becomes reality. We have already seen the effects of the ESPN 1-hour NIU bashathon last season on the lack of mobility this year compared to Fresno.

Well we'll find out on Sunday if the pollsters leave NIU where they are, or follow ESPNs opinions and drop us out of the top 25.

Voters don't sit down Sunday morning and watch sports center and a replay of game day to decide on their voting patterns MD... Do you know who composes the voting panels?

Do I think some of these ESPN heads are over stepping their bounds and clearly have an agenda? Yes, but its not gonna impact voters unless they agree with the facts at hand.

(11-09-2013 12:00 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  You guys are way too sensitive. Welcome to the spotlight. That's what happens when you win. I don't care what any supposed expert says about us, all I care about is winning. If we keep doing that everything else will sort itself out. I would much rather be stacked up against the top teams than not mentioned at all. Keep winning and keep building.

Yeah, just getting discussed is a major win. And it also means people will say things you don't like.

I didn't see it, but it sounds like they were trying to point out faults (our schedule DOES SUCK) so even if they have a bad/dismissive tone about NIU, they tried to make an argument with points, not just "NIU sucks, and I hope DeKalb gets sucked into hell and it's about time we got our pitchforks to destroy the tin hats they wear in DeKalb so we can destroy the world!"

(11-09-2013 09:57 AM)clcfball11 Wrote:  I hope Pollack wakes up tomorrow with advanced-stage chlamydia.

I just laughed out loud.

(11-09-2013 12:53 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:00 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  You guys are way too sensitive. Welcome to the spotlight. That's what happens when you win. I don't care what any supposed expert says about us, all I care about is winning. If we keep doing that everything else will sort itself out. I would much rather be stacked up against the top teams than not mentioned at all. Keep winning and keep building.

Yeah, just getting discussed is a major win. And it also means people will say things you don't like.

I didn't see it, but it sounds like they were trying to point out faults (our schedule DOES SUCK) so even if they have a bad/dismissive tone about NIU, they tried to make an argument with points, not just "NIU sucks, and I hope DeKalb gets sucked into hell and it's about time we got our pitchforks to destroy the tin hats they wear in DeKalb so we can destroy the world!"

I think its awesome though how NIU's story is already written by ESPN, it doesn't matter even if NIU beat Ball STate and Toledo, voters should not vote for NIU according to ESPN. Im sure glad though that this type of exposure is good for the MAC, you cant beat that type of exposure can you, saying you don't deserve any success.

I honestly don't think ESPN hates NIU, I just think ESPN cannot tolerate and cannot stand a MAC team having any type of national success. When NIU drops back to your typical 10-2 team out of the national picture, they will call off the dogs. It is just annoying ESPN is that hellbent on exerting its influence, its pretty unreal.

(11-09-2013 12:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:53 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:00 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  You guys are way too sensitive. Welcome to the spotlight. That's what happens when you win. I don't care what any supposed expert says about us, all I care about is winning. If we keep doing that everything else will sort itself out. I would much rather be stacked up against the top teams than not mentioned at all. Keep winning and keep building.

Yeah, just getting discussed is a major win. And it also means people will say things you don't like.

I didn't see it, but it sounds like they were trying to point out faults (our schedule DOES SUCK) so even if they have a bad/dismissive tone about NIU, they tried to make an argument with points, not just "NIU sucks, and I hope DeKalb gets sucked into hell and it's about time we got our pitchforks to destroy the tin hats they wear in DeKalb so we can destroy the world!"

I think its awesome though how NIU's story is already written by ESPN, it doesn't matter even if NIU beat Ball STate and Toledo, voters should not vote for NIU according to ESPN. Im sure glad though that this type of exposure is good for the MAC, you cant beat that type of exposure can you, saying you don't deserve any success.

I honestly don't think ESPN hates NIU, I just think ESPN cannot tolerate and cannot stand a MAC team having any type of national success. When NIU drops back to your typical 10-2 team out of the national picture, they will call off the dogs. It is just annoying ESPN is that hellbent on exerting its influence, its pretty unreal.

Do you really think it's a network decision? ESPN is worth $40 billion....do you think the network spends much of their time thinking about a school they pay a few measly thousands to in order to show their games? Sure, they have a lot of money riding on the BCS games, but NIU didn't lose them any money in that game last year, it did very well as I recall.

They employ 8 billion "analysts," many of which don't think NIU has earned their ranking....that's about the size of it.

(11-09-2013 12:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:53 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:00 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  You guys are way too sensitive. Welcome to the spotlight. That's what happens when you win. I don't care what any supposed expert says about us, all I care about is winning. If we keep doing that everything else will sort itself out. I would much rather be stacked up against the top teams than not mentioned at all. Keep winning and keep building.

Yeah, just getting discussed is a major win. And it also means people will say things you don't like.

I didn't see it, but it sounds like they were trying to point out faults (our schedule DOES SUCK) so even if they have a bad/dismissive tone about NIU, they tried to make an argument with points, not just "NIU sucks, and I hope DeKalb gets sucked into hell and it's about time we got our pitchforks to destroy the tin hats they wear in DeKalb so we can destroy the world!"

I think its awesome though how NIU's story is already written by ESPN, it doesn't matter even if NIU beat Ball STate and Toledo, voters should not vote for NIU according to ESPN. Im sure glad though that this type of exposure is good for the MAC, you cant beat that type of exposure can you, saying you don't deserve any success.

I honestly don't think ESPN hates NIU, I just think ESPN cannot tolerate and cannot stand a MAC team having any type of national success. When NIU drops back to your typical 10-2 team out of the national picture, they will call off the dogs. It is just annoying ESPN is that hellbent on exerting its influence, its pretty unreal.

And this, my friend, is why I stated from the very first day of the ESPN-MAC agreement that it was trouble and a piece of sh!t. What good is exposure when that exposure is negative and beats you into the ground? What potential players would want to come to a MAC school when ESPN shows the empty stadiums? What player would want to play for a MAC school when the ESPN a-hole announcers poo-poo the game they're supposed be be announcing and instead promote the upcoming SEC game on ESPN? On top of this, it forces mid-week games in frigid temps, lower attendance, and alienated fans.

(11-09-2013 01:11 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:53 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:00 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  You guys are way too sensitive. Welcome to the spotlight. That's what happens when you win. I don't care what any supposed expert says about us, all I care about is winning. If we keep doing that everything else will sort itself out. I would much rather be stacked up against the top teams than not mentioned at all. Keep winning and keep building.

Yeah, just getting discussed is a major win. And it also means people will say things you don't like.

I didn't see it, but it sounds like they were trying to point out faults (our schedule DOES SUCK) so even if they have a bad/dismissive tone about NIU, they tried to make an argument with points, not just "NIU sucks, and I hope DeKalb gets sucked into hell and it's about time we got our pitchforks to destroy the tin hats they wear in DeKalb so we can destroy the world!"

I think its awesome though how NIU's story is already written by ESPN, it doesn't matter even if NIU beat Ball STate and Toledo, voters should not vote for NIU according to ESPN. Im sure glad though that this type of exposure is good for the MAC, you cant beat that type of exposure can you, saying you don't deserve any success.

I honestly don't think ESPN hates NIU, I just think ESPN cannot tolerate and cannot stand a MAC team having any type of national success. When NIU drops back to your typical 10-2 team out of the national picture, they will call off the dogs. It is just annoying ESPN is that hellbent on exerting its influence, its pretty unreal.

Do you really think it's a network decision? ESPN is worth $40 billion....do you think the network spends much of their time thinking about a school they pay a few measly thousands to in order to show their games? Sure, they have a lot of money riding on the BCS games, but NIU didn't lose them any money in that game last year, it did very well as I recall.

They employ 8 billion "analysts," many of which don't think NIU has earned their ranking....that's about the size of it.

I completely think its a larger scale decision. Watch the MACC last year, if you haven't seen that broadcast, it will change your mind. It is not just one or two people, look at the BCS countdown show, basically a 1-hour NIU exclusive attacking the Huskies. Last year's MACC was a 3-hour special saying how a MAC team shouldn't get in, especially NIU. Look at the scripted conversations of other ESPN games talking about NIU. There is definitely something handed down in terms of marching orders for the NIU talking points.

(11-09-2013 01:15 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:11 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:53 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:00 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  You guys are way too sensitive. Welcome to the spotlight. That's what happens when you win. I don't care what any supposed expert says about us, all I care about is winning. If we keep doing that everything else will sort itself out. I would much rather be stacked up against the top teams than not mentioned at all. Keep winning and keep building.

Yeah, just getting discussed is a major win. And it also means people will say things you don't like.

I didn't see it, but it sounds like they were trying to point out faults (our schedule DOES SUCK) so even if they have a bad/dismissive tone about NIU, they tried to make an argument with points, not just "NIU sucks, and I hope DeKalb gets sucked into hell and it's about time we got our pitchforks to destroy the tin hats they wear in DeKalb so we can destroy the world!"

I think its awesome though how NIU's story is already written by ESPN, it doesn't matter even if NIU beat Ball STate and Toledo, voters should not vote for NIU according to ESPN. Im sure glad though that this type of exposure is good for the MAC, you cant beat that type of exposure can you, saying you don't deserve any success.

I honestly don't think ESPN hates NIU, I just think ESPN cannot tolerate and cannot stand a MAC team having any type of national success. When NIU drops back to your typical 10-2 team out of the national picture, they will call off the dogs. It is just annoying ESPN is that hellbent on exerting its influence, its pretty unreal.

Do you really think it's a network decision? ESPN is worth $40 billion....do you think the network spends much of their time thinking about a school they pay a few measly thousands to in order to show their games? Sure, they have a lot of money riding on the BCS games, but NIU didn't lose them any money in that game last year, it did very well as I recall.

They employ 8 billion "analysts," many of which don't think NIU has earned their ranking....that's about the size of it.

I completely think its a larger scale decision. Watch the MACC last year, if you haven't seen that broadcast, it will change your mind. It is not just one or two people, look at the BCS countdown show, basically a 1-hour NIU exclusive attacking the Huskies. Last year's MACC was a 3-hour special saying how a MAC team shouldn't get in, especially NIU. Look at the scripted conversations of other ESPN games talking about NIU. There is definitely something handed down in terms of marching orders for the NIU talking points.

I think all those broadcasts u just mentioned were positive of NIU and Lynch, the only knock they bring up is our weak SOS. Which is a true, fact.

Just because in a 3 hour span they talk and praise NIU, than make a few comments about their weak SOS and if they deserve being in the BCS hunt, does not mean they have some big push down campaign from the corporate office. You are only watching for the negatives, and are dismissing all the positives.

(11-09-2013 01:19 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:15 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:11 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:53 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  Yeah, just getting discussed is a major win. And it also means people will say things you don't like.

I didn't see it, but it sounds like they were trying to point out faults (our schedule DOES SUCK) so even if they have a bad/dismissive tone about NIU, they tried to make an argument with points, not just "NIU sucks, and I hope DeKalb gets sucked into hell and it's about time we got our pitchforks to destroy the tin hats they wear in DeKalb so we can destroy the world!"

I think its awesome though how NIU's story is already written by ESPN, it doesn't matter even if NIU beat Ball STate and Toledo, voters should not vote for NIU according to ESPN. Im sure glad though that this type of exposure is good for the MAC, you cant beat that type of exposure can you, saying you don't deserve any success.

I honestly don't think ESPN hates NIU, I just think ESPN cannot tolerate and cannot stand a MAC team having any type of national success. When NIU drops back to your typical 10-2 team out of the national picture, they will call off the dogs. It is just annoying ESPN is that hellbent on exerting its influence, its pretty unreal.

Do you really think it's a network decision? ESPN is worth $40 billion....do you think the network spends much of their time thinking about a school they pay a few measly thousands to in order to show their games? Sure, they have a lot of money riding on the BCS games, but NIU didn't lose them any money in that game last year, it did very well as I recall.

They employ 8 billion "analysts," many of which don't think NIU has earned their ranking....that's about the size of it.

I completely think its a larger scale decision. Watch the MACC last year, if you haven't seen that broadcast, it will change your mind. It is not just one or two people, look at the BCS countdown show, basically a 1-hour NIU exclusive attacking the Huskies. Last year's MACC was a 3-hour special saying how a MAC team shouldn't get in, especially NIU. Look at the scripted conversations of other ESPN games talking about NIU. There is definitely something handed down in terms of marching orders for the NIU talking points.

I think all those broadcasts u just mentioned were positive of NIU and Lynch, the only knock they bring up is our weak SOS. Which is a true, fact.

Positive, what in the world are you talking about lol. I want to ask you something, do you have a family member who is an employee at ESPN? I mean that sincerely.

(11-09-2013 01:19 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:15 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:11 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:53 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  Yeah, just getting discussed is a major win. And it also means people will say things you don't like.

I didn't see it, but it sounds like they were trying to point out faults (our schedule DOES SUCK) so even if they have a bad/dismissive tone about NIU, they tried to make an argument with points, not just "NIU sucks, and I hope DeKalb gets sucked into hell and it's about time we got our pitchforks to destroy the tin hats they wear in DeKalb so we can destroy the world!"

I think its awesome though how NIU's story is already written by ESPN, it doesn't matter even if NIU beat Ball STate and Toledo, voters should not vote for NIU according to ESPN. Im sure glad though that this type of exposure is good for the MAC, you cant beat that type of exposure can you, saying you don't deserve any success.

I honestly don't think ESPN hates NIU, I just think ESPN cannot tolerate and cannot stand a MAC team having any type of national success. When NIU drops back to your typical 10-2 team out of the national picture, they will call off the dogs. It is just annoying ESPN is that hellbent on exerting its influence, its pretty unreal.

Do you really think it's a network decision? ESPN is worth $40 billion....do you think the network spends much of their time thinking about a school they pay a few measly thousands to in order to show their games? Sure, they have a lot of money riding on the BCS games, but NIU didn't lose them any money in that game last year, it did very well as I recall.

They employ 8 billion "analysts," many of which don't think NIU has earned their ranking....that's about the size of it.

I completely think its a larger scale decision. Watch the MACC last year, if you haven't seen that broadcast, it will change your mind. It is not just one or two people, look at the BCS countdown show, basically a 1-hour NIU exclusive attacking the Huskies. Last year's MACC was a 3-hour special saying how a MAC team shouldn't get in, especially NIU. Look at the scripted conversations of other ESPN games talking about NIU. There is definitely something handed down in terms of marching orders for the NIU talking points.

I think all those broadcasts u just mentioned were positive of NIU and Lynch, the only knock they bring up is our weak SOS. Which is a true, fact.

Yeah, that's how I feel. It's been "they're good" with the huge BUT being "they haven't played anyone good." That's not unreasonable.

And the tone Herbie used last year was gross and it made it seem like he blamed NIU instead of the system, which was wrong. But, you know, he's allowed to have an opinion and I'm allowed to ignore it.

(11-09-2013 01:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:19 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:15 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:11 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I think its awesome though how NIU's story is already written by ESPN, it doesn't matter even if NIU beat Ball STate and Toledo, voters should not vote for NIU according to ESPN. Im sure glad though that this type of exposure is good for the MAC, you cant beat that type of exposure can you, saying you don't deserve any success.

I honestly don't think ESPN hates NIU, I just think ESPN cannot tolerate and cannot stand a MAC team having any type of national success. When NIU drops back to your typical 10-2 team out of the national picture, they will call off the dogs. It is just annoying ESPN is that hellbent on exerting its influence, its pretty unreal.

Do you really think it's a network decision? ESPN is worth $40 billion....do you think the network spends much of their time thinking about a school they pay a few measly thousands to in order to show their games? Sure, they have a lot of money riding on the BCS games, but NIU didn't lose them any money in that game last year, it did very well as I recall.

They employ 8 billion "analysts," many of which don't think NIU has earned their ranking....that's about the size of it.

I completely think its a larger scale decision. Watch the MACC last year, if you haven't seen that broadcast, it will change your mind. It is not just one or two people, look at the BCS countdown show, basically a 1-hour NIU exclusive attacking the Huskies. Last year's MACC was a 3-hour special saying how a MAC team shouldn't get in, especially NIU. Look at the scripted conversations of other ESPN games talking about NIU. There is definitely something handed down in terms of marching orders for the NIU talking points.

I think all those broadcasts u just mentioned were positive of NIU and Lynch, the only knock they bring up is our weak SOS. Which is a true, fact.

Positive, what in the world are you talking about lol. I want to ask you something, do you have a family member who is an employee at ESPN? I mean that sincerely.

MD I am going to replay the Ball Sate vs CMU game, and tally how many times they mentioned NIU and if it was negative or positive.

I will bet you right now before I do it, the odds are 5 -1 in favor of positive. The only knock against us is our SOS.

(11-09-2013 01:22 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:19 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:15 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:11 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I think its awesome though how NIU's story is already written by ESPN, it doesn't matter even if NIU beat Ball STate and Toledo, voters should not vote for NIU according to ESPN. Im sure glad though that this type of exposure is good for the MAC, you cant beat that type of exposure can you, saying you don't deserve any success.

I honestly don't think ESPN hates NIU, I just think ESPN cannot tolerate and cannot stand a MAC team having any type of national success. When NIU drops back to your typical 10-2 team out of the national picture, they will call off the dogs. It is just annoying ESPN is that hellbent on exerting its influence, its pretty unreal.

Do you really think it's a network decision? ESPN is worth $40 billion....do you think the network spends much of their time thinking about a school they pay a few measly thousands to in order to show their games? Sure, they have a lot of money riding on the BCS games, but NIU didn't lose them any money in that game last year, it did very well as I recall.

They employ 8 billion "analysts," many of which don't think NIU has earned their ranking....that's about the size of it.

I completely think its a larger scale decision. Watch the MACC last year, if you haven't seen that broadcast, it will change your mind. It is not just one or two people, look at the BCS countdown show, basically a 1-hour NIU exclusive attacking the Huskies. Last year's MACC was a 3-hour special saying how a MAC team shouldn't get in, especially NIU. Look at the scripted conversations of other ESPN games talking about NIU. There is definitely something handed down in terms of marching orders for the NIU talking points.

I think all those broadcasts u just mentioned were positive of NIU and Lynch, the only knock they bring up is our weak SOS. Which is a true, fact.

Yeah, that's how I feel. It's been "they're good" with the huge BUT being "they haven't played anyone good." That's not unreasonable.

And the tone Herbie used last year was gross and it made it seem like he blamed NIU instead of the system, which was wrong. But, you know, he's allowed to have an opinion and I'm allowed to ignore it.

Agreed the BCS show last year was over the top, and was a personal attack on NIU from Herby

(11-09-2013 01:22 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:19 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:15 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:11 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:57 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  I think its awesome though how NIU's story is already written by ESPN, it doesn't matter even if NIU beat Ball STate and Toledo, voters should not vote for NIU according to ESPN. Im sure glad though that this type of exposure is good for the MAC, you cant beat that type of exposure can you, saying you don't deserve any success.

I honestly don't think ESPN hates NIU, I just think ESPN cannot tolerate and cannot stand a MAC team having any type of national success. When NIU drops back to your typical 10-2 team out of the national picture, they will call off the dogs. It is just annoying ESPN is that hellbent on exerting its influence, its pretty unreal.

Do you really think it's a network decision? ESPN is worth $40 billion....do you think the network spends much of their time thinking about a school they pay a few measly thousands to in order to show their games? Sure, they have a lot of money riding on the BCS games, but NIU didn't lose them any money in that game last year, it did very well as I recall.

They employ 8 billion "analysts," many of which don't think NIU has earned their ranking....that's about the size of it.

I completely think its a larger scale decision. Watch the MACC last year, if you haven't seen that broadcast, it will change your mind. It is not just one or two people, look at the BCS countdown show, basically a 1-hour NIU exclusive attacking the Huskies. Last year's MACC was a 3-hour special saying how a MAC team shouldn't get in, especially NIU. Look at the scripted conversations of other ESPN games talking about NIU. There is definitely something handed down in terms of marching orders for the NIU talking points.

I think all those broadcasts u just mentioned were positive of NIU and Lynch, the only knock they bring up is our weak SOS. Which is a true, fact.

Yeah, that's how I feel. It's been "they're good" with the huge BUT being "they haven't played anyone good." That's not unreasonable.

And the tone Herbie used last year was gross and it made it seem like he blamed NIU instead of the system, which was wrong. But, you know, he's allowed to have an opinion and I'm allowed to ignore it.

Why don't these weak SOS arguments extend to Louisville, Ohio State, UCF? Those teams have in most cases equally bad schedules. Louisville probably at the end of the year will have a WORSE SOS than NIU, yet Louisville was being considered a national title contender. ESPN thinks its wrong for NIU to even be in the top 25. How is something not off there

(11-09-2013 12:48 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  You are completely delusional lol. You really think ESPN is trying to block NIU out of a BCS bowl because they only blew out Purdue and didn't really really blow them out? I just have no words left lol

No, my point is that the Purdue game is the bone ESPN was picking this morning (and in this thread), and there is credibility to that argument if you want to look at the "full" story.

Sure there are other games, like blowing out the bottom of the MAC, which everyone in the Top 25 can do.

And the ugly wins against Akron, EIU, and Idaho.

Iowa was a good win, but is looking less impressive as Iowa loses to Michigan State and Wisconsin.

Unfortunately, we haven't shown Top 25 legitimacy. Win big against Ball State and Toledo, keep them under 400 yards, then ESPN will have to give us more credibility.

(11-09-2013 01:25 PM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 12:48 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  You are completely delusional lol. You really think ESPN is trying to block NIU out of a BCS bowl because they only blew out Purdue and didn't really really blow them out? I just have no words left lol

No, my point is that the Purdue game is the bone ESPN was picking this morning (and in this thread), and there is credibility to that argument if you want to look at the "full" story.

Sure there are other games, like blowing out the bottom of the MAC, which everyone in the Top 25 can do.

And the ugly wins against Akron, EIU, and Idaho.

Iowa was a good win, but is looking less impressive as Iowa loses to Michigan State and Wisconsin.

Unfortunately, we haven't shown Top 25 legitimacy. Win big against Ball State and Toledo, keep them under 400 yards, then ESPN will have to give us more credibility.

You are under the delusion that the opponents mean anything, its all about the name and conference affiliation. Louisville will have a weaker SOS than NIU, yet the only talk I heard from ESPN about Louisville was whether their schedule should allow them to play for a national title, not if they deserved to be in the top 25. All I am saying is the same measures are not being applied across the board.

(11-09-2013 01:24 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:22 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:19 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:15 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(11-09-2013 01:11 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  Do you really think it's a network decision? ESPN is worth $40 billion....do you think the network spends much of their time thinking about a school they pay a few measly thousands to in order to show their games? Sure, they have a lot of money riding on the BCS games, but NIU didn't lose them any money in that game last year, it did very well as I recall.

They employ 8 billion "analysts," many of which don't think NIU has earned their ranking....that's about the size of it.

I completely think its a larger scale decision. Watch the MACC last year, if you haven't seen that broadcast, it will change your mind. It is not just one or two people, look at the BCS countdown show, basically a 1-hour NIU exclusive attacking the Huskies. Last year's MACC was a 3-hour special saying how a MAC team shouldn't get in, especially NIU. Look at the scripted conversations of other ESPN games talking about NIU. There is definitely something handed down in terms of marching orders for the NIU talking points.

I think all those broadcasts u just mentioned were positive of NIU and Lynch, the only knock they bring up is our weak SOS. Which is a true, fact.

Yeah, that's how I feel. It's been "they're good" with the huge BUT being "they haven't played anyone good." That's not unreasonable.

And the tone Herbie used last year was gross and it made it seem like he blamed NIU instead of the system, which was wrong. But, you know, he's allowed to have an opinion and I'm allowed to ignore it.

Why don't these weak SOS arguments extend to Louisville, Ohio State, UCF? Those teams have in most cases equally bad schedules. Louisville probably at the end of the year will have a WORSE SOS than NIU, yet Louisville was being considered a national title contender. ESPN thinks its wrong for NIU to even be in the top 25. How is something not off there

Louisville and Ohio State have top 10 defenses, and don't play close games with the Idahos and Akrons of FBS. Their defensive performance is such that people believe they can play with top 25 teams.