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(11-13-2013 07:21 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  Geedog, you so do not understand NBA talent level, and so caught up in the hype machine its unreal......Micheal Beasley was UNSTOPPABLE in college, Ranked top 3 out of HS and went Top 3.....His game didn't translate to NBA.....So you are telling me, and others that Wiggins won't put on more muscle between now and then, which will slow his quickness some, And Never said he wasn't a good athlete, but that he will outgrow his body, doesn't have a great form on his jumper, isn't a great catch and shoot type of guy.....But He can do what Beasley did, and is a better athlete than most guys he will face in College, and numbers will be inflated......But Kuran Iverson who has Superior Ball handling skills, great form on his jumper, great court vision and great passer has better Long term Pro potential.....He is working on his game, and knows what it takes to get it done.....He was ranked number 1 until his sophomore year, but he kept growing, and is now having to learn to play taller, which he is doing.....Once he gets his back to the basket game down, there won't be much to stoping him.....As i stated as the season goes on, Kuran Iverson will show what he is made of.....And He might not go 1-12 but he will be better in the long run, long as he continues doing what he is doing right now....He has a Superior work ethic.....One Dream, One Team, Memphis.....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis.....The World Is Ours Memphis....

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Wiggins isn't a great 3 point shooter, doesn't have deep range, doesn't have great form or Mechanics on his jumper, doesn't have great handles, to where he can break his man down one on one at will......Wiggins is However a very very good athlete, and is a much better Athlete than most he faced in weaker comp of HS, and in College for the most part....Kuran Iverson has great handles, and great passer with great court vision, has a great jumper with Great form and good mechanics with high arch and good rotation on his release at its highest point......He is working on his back to the basket game, like that of Penny-Like.....Once he gets a post up game to match his one on one game from the wing, and his shooting will only get better, has deep range already, Lights out.....Iverson isn't the jaw droping athlete like Wiggins or Parker, or Randle,....But He has Superior handles than those guys, which makes him hard to handle at the 3 just like Penny was hard to handle for the same reasons.....He can handle the rock, thus breaking his man down ISO anytime he wants to, can shoot it from deep and anywhere on the court, Great vision and awareness from playing the point, and sees everything, Puts teammates in position for better shot selections, and once his Post up game matches his wing perimeter skills then he will be like Durant, and Penny Like at the 3 spot......A 6-9 point forward who can Score and do it all, and gets teammates Involved and Make them Better, because of HIM......You guys will see just how good Kuran "The Truth" Iverson is this season....And I hope the Grizzlies get Kuran Iverson in the draft this year.....One Dream, One Team, Memphis....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis.....The World Is Ours Memphis....
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(11-13-2013 07:21 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  Geedog, you so do not understand NBA talent level, and so caught up in the hype machine its unreal......Micheal Beasley was UNSTOPPABLE in college, Ranked top 3 out of HS and went Top 3.....His game didn't translate to NBA.....So you are telling me, and others that Wiggins won't put on more muscle between now and then, which will slow his quickness some, And Never said he wasn't a good athlete, but that he will outgrow his body, doesn't have a great form on his jumper, isn't a great catch and shoot type of guy.....But He can do what Beasley did, and is a better athlete than most guys he will face in College, and numbers will be inflated......But Kuran Iverson who has Superior Ball handling skills, great form on his jumper, great court vision and great passer has better Long term Pro potential.....He is working on his game, and knows what it takes to get it done.....He was ranked number 1 until his sophomore year, but he kept growing, and is now having to learn to play taller, which he is doing.....Once he gets his back to the basket game down, there won't be much to stoping him.....As i stated as the season goes on, Kuran Iverson will show what he is made of.....And He might not go 1-12 but he will be better in the long run, long as he continues doing what he is doing right now....He has a Superior work ethic.....One Dream, One Team, Memphis.....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis.....The World Is Ours Memphis....

I guess you have a Master's Degree in Biology or some other ology. 03-lmfao What I'm sayin is, "You Don't Know Jack"!03-shhhh I'm talking about what I and most others, that really understand talent, can see. I don't have a crystal ball for the future and if you do, let's get rich together. You can say you're involved with this and that, but the things you say, show your real BBall knowledge. If you didn't know it, M. Beasley is still in the NBA and very much talented. His problem was his work ethics, wanting to get high all the time. Once again you show just how much you really know. TC, I could school you all day about the game of BBall. I just hate reading all your post, like you're with K.I. everyday and seeing these things that you're spewing. A.I. and others coming to Memphis Madness. Can you name one thing that you have been spot on, just one..... thought so. You and btiger have a good one.03-shhhh
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(11-13-2013 10:58 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  Wiggins isn't a great 3 point shooter, doesn't have deep range, doesn't have great form or Mechanics on his jumper, doesn't have great handles, to where he can break his man down one on one at will......Wiggins is However a very very good athlete, and is a much better Athlete than most he faced in weaker comp of HS, and in College for the most part....Kuran Iverson has great handles, and great passer with great court vision, has a great jumper with Great form and good mechanics with high arch and good rotation on his release at its highest point......He is working on his back to the basket game, like that of Penny-Like.....Once he gets a post up game to match his one on one game from the wing, and his shooting will only get better, has deep range already, Lights out.....Iverson isn't the jaw droping athlete like Wiggins or Parker, or Randle,....But He has Superior handles than those guys, which makes him hard to handle at the 3 just like Penny was hard to handle for the same reasons.....He can handle the rock, thus breaking his man down ISO anytime he wants to, can shoot it from deep and anywhere on the court, Great vision and awareness from playing the point, and sees everything, Puts teammates in position for better shot selections, and once his Post up game matches his wing perimeter skills then he will be like Durant, and Penny Like at the 3 spot......A 6-9 point forward who can Score and do it all, and gets teammates Involved and Make them Better, because of HIM......You guys will see just how good Kuran "The Truth" Iverson is this season....And I hope the Grizzlies get Kuran Iverson in the draft this year.....One Dream, One Team, Memphis....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis.....The World Is Ours Memphis....

03-banghead Man I'm through with you. All of the BBall world see the greatness in A.W., but you.03-lmfao Talent Scout 03-lmfao We'll see.
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Geedog, first off i am involved more than you know, and thats that....Second thing, Micheal Beasley problem was he was undersized and not skilled enough for the 3 in the NBA, and gets some minutes yes but a spot player period....Far as you and everyone jumping on the Wiggins hype, They said Oden was can't miss, But he had INjuries and soft knees because his body couldn't handle the extra muscle.....Alot of GM's get it wrong, becuase the owners think of selling seats and tickets as much as anything too.....You heard of John Wall, Great Athlete, Good Point Guard, Great College numbers, Number 1 pick, Just now putting up fairly good NBA Numbers, but is gonna be any better than what he is, or has he maxed out....Same goes with Tyreke Evans, Top 4, number 1, can't miss point guard, ok numbers, but is he gonna be better than what he is right now.....Same might be said about Wiggins too is what i am saying, and than Kuran Iverson has better long term Pro potential in the long run.....One Dream, One Team, Memphis....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis....The World Is Ours Memphis....
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Wiggins is a year and a half younger than Kuran. Something to think about.
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Wiggins is a great Athlete I said that much, So was John Wall, And I said Wiggins would have an OK NBA Career as well, So too is John Wall....But He wouldn't be the All world Franchise Player that he is being Hyped to be, and that his game will get slightly better once he reaches NBA, But not much more than what it is now, and he has pretty much Maxed out, and Thus once he adds More muscle mass to his frame which tends to happen, he will lose some of his quickness, and his frame isn't built to carry that kinda muscle....Where as Kuran Iverson, has the frame to add more but he keep growing after his Soph y ear, and now is learning to play much taller in the process....Kuran Iverson has Superior Ball handling skills, So though he isn't the Great Athlete Wiggins is, with his Superior Ball handling skills it allows him to break down his man one on one anytime he wants to, plus has a deep range on his jumper and great form.....When you can handle the ball, and shoot the ball with very good range, and have great court vision and great passer as well, you will be h ard to handle regardless of being and all world Athlete ala Penny.....Not that Kuran or Penny aren't really good Athletes, just not jaw dropping, but its their ball handling playmaking ability that is jaw dropping with them.....Hell even Kidd-Gilchrist was rated number 1 out of HS and went 3 in the draft, as I also said Tyreke was number 1, and went top 4, and John Wall who is alot like Wiggins from a point guard position was an all world Athelte, went number 1 and is a very very good NBA player, Just not the Franchise type they thought he would be.....and That Wall could be maxed out, which might be the same route for Wiggins......Again I said it before, Kuran Iverson in my eyes, and those some of Other Scouts from the league feel Kuran Iverson Could have, more Long term Potential and Skill set than that of Andrew Wiggins or Parker......Once he gets his back to the basket game going to match his perimeter game Kuran "The Truth" Iverson will be unstoppable and just too hard to handle or match up with....A 6-9 Magic Johnson/ Penny Type point forward who makes everyone around him that much better because of his Ability and that makes a Rare Special kinda superstar, which is Kuran "The Truth" Iverson.....Wiggins is be good with a decent to good NBA career, just long term will not be as good as Kuran Iverson in the NBA.....One Dream, One Team, Memphis....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis....The World Is Ours Memphis.....Side note- Make sure you watch the game tonight and the season and pay attention, If you saw the CBU game you noticed the skills of Iverson with his passing, and court vision and his superior ball handling skills, and with his Superior Work Ethic watch out....
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(11-14-2013 10:11 AM)tigerscane Wrote:  Wiggins is a great Athlete I said that much, So was John Wall, And I said Wiggins would have an OK NBA Career as well, So too is John Wall....But He wouldn't be the All world Franchise Player that he is being Hyped to be, and that his game will get slightly better once he reaches NBA, But not much more than what it is now, and he has pretty much Maxed out, and Thus once he adds More muscle mass to his frame which tends to happen, he will lose some of his quickness, and his frame isn't built to carry that kinda muscle....Where as Kuran Iverson, has the frame to add more but he keep growing after his Soph y ear, and now is learning to play much taller in the process....Kuran Iverson has Superior Ball handling skills, So though he isn't the Great Athlete Wiggins is, with his Superior Ball handling skills it allows him to break down his man one on one anytime he wants to, plus has a deep range on his jumper and great form.....When you can handle the ball, and shoot the ball with very good range, and have great court vision and great passer as well, you will be h ard to handle regardless of being and all world Athlete ala Penny.....Not that Kuran or Penny aren't really good Athletes, just not jaw dropping, but its their ball handling playmaking ability that is jaw dropping with them.....Hell even Kidd-Gilchrist was rated number 1 out of HS and went 3 in the draft, as I also said Tyreke was number 1, and went top 4, and John Wall who is alot like Wiggins from a point guard position was an all world Athelte, went number 1 and is a very very good NBA player, Just not the Franchise type they thought he would be.....and That Wall could be maxed out, which might be the same route for Wiggins......Again I said it before, Kuran Iverson in my eyes, and those some of Other Scouts from the league feel Kuran Iverson Could have, more Long term Potential and Skill set than that of Andrew Wiggins or Parker......Once he gets his back to the basket game going to match his perimeter game Kuran "The Truth" Iverson will be unstoppable and just too hard to handle or match up with....A 6-9 Magic Johnson/ Penny Type point forward who makes everyone around him that much better because of his Ability and that makes a Rare Special kinda superstar, which is Kuran "The Truth" Iverson.....Wiggins is be good with a decent to good NBA career, just long term will not be as good as Kuran Iverson in the NBA.....One Dream, One Team, Memphis....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis....The World Is Ours Memphis.....Side note- Make sure you watch the game tonight and the season and pay attention, If you saw the CBU game you noticed the skills of Iverson with his passing, and court vision and his superior ball handling skills, and with his Superior Work Ethic watch out....

is the truth playing tonight?
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John Wall is currently an NBA starter.
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(11-14-2013 12:55 AM)tigerscane Wrote:  Geedog, first off i am involved more than you know, and thats that....Second thing, Micheal Beasley problem was he was undersized and not skilled enough for the 3 in the NBA, and gets some minutes yes but a spot player period....Far as you and everyone jumping on the Wiggins hype, They said Oden was can't miss, But he had INjuries and soft knees because his body couldn't handle the extra muscle.....Alot of GM's get it wrong, becuase the owners think of selling seats and tickets as much as anything too.....You heard of John Wall, Great Athlete, Good Point Guard, Great College numbers, Number 1 pick, Just now putting up fairly good NBA Numbers, but is gonna be any better than what he is, or has he maxed out....Same goes with Tyreke Evans, Top 4, number 1, can't miss point guard, ok numbers, but is he gonna be better than what he is right now.....Same might be said about Wiggins too is what i am saying, and than Kuran Iverson has better long term Pro potential in the long run.....One Dream, One Team, Memphis....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis....The World Is Ours Memphis....

Blah blah blah.... You talk so much about nothing that has to do with the conversation. How the HELL did J. Wall and T. Evans in up in this debate? Are saying they won't do anything the rest of their career? 01-wingedeagle Man........03-banghead Enjoy the Season that's here 02-13-banana Peace Out03-phew
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(11-14-2013 10:11 AM)tigerscane Wrote:  Wiggins is a great Athlete I said that much, So was John Wall, And I said Wiggins would have an OK NBA Career as well, So too is John Wall....But He wouldn't be the All world Franchise Player that he is being Hyped to be, and that his game will get slightly better once he reaches NBA, But not much more than what it is now, and he has pretty much Maxed out, and Thus once he adds More muscle mass to his frame which tends to happen, he will lose some of his quickness, and his frame isn't built to carry that kinda muscle....Where as Kuran Iverson, has the frame to add more but he keep growing after his Soph y ear, and now is learning to play much taller in the process....Kuran Iverson has Superior Ball handling skills, So though he isn't the Great Athlete Wiggins is, with his Superior Ball handling skills it allows him to break down his man one on one anytime he wants to, plus has a deep range on his jumper and great form.....When you can handle the ball, and shoot the ball with very good range, and have great court vision and great passer as well, you will be h ard to handle regardless of being and all world Athlete ala Penny.....Not that Kuran or Penny aren't really good Athletes, just not jaw dropping, but its their ball handling playmaking ability that is jaw dropping with them.....Hell even Kidd-Gilchrist was rated number 1 out of HS and went 3 in the draft, as I also said Tyreke was number 1, and went top 4, and John Wall who is alot like Wiggins from a point guard position was an all world Athelte, went number 1 and is a very very good NBA player, Just not the Franchise type they thought he would be.....and That Wall could be maxed out, which might be the same route for Wiggins......Again I said it before, Kuran Iverson in my eyes, and those some of Other Scouts from the league feel Kuran Iverson Could have, more Long term Potential and Skill set than that of Andrew Wiggins or Parker......Once he gets his back to the basket game going to match his perimeter game Kuran "The Truth" Iverson will be unstoppable and just too hard to handle or match up with....A 6-9 Magic Johnson/ Penny Type point forward who makes everyone around him that much better because of his Ability and that makes a Rare Special kinda superstar, which is Kuran "The Truth" Iverson.....Wiggins is be good with a decent to good NBA career, just long term will not be as good as Kuran Iverson in the NBA.....One Dream, One Team, Memphis....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis....The World Is Ours Memphis.....Side note- Make sure you watch the game tonight and the season and pay attention, If you saw the CBU game you noticed the skills of Iverson with his passing, and court vision and his superior ball handling skills, and with his Superior Work Ethic watch out....

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Another thing Geedog, And Even Bluto can tell you this and others....I said Tony Wroten was gonna begin to break out, and should be the Grizz SG, but they traded him to the Sixers,......He had a triple double last night and his Stats per minute are going up and up and he is beginning to show the talent of becoming a superstar as i said he was......And Will Barton had games last year, and one aginst Kobe Bryant that showed you his game is good and skills are there as well.....SO yes I know how to do my job and Judge talent, and not just the Hype that is just thrown out, but long term pro potential......One Dream, One Team, Memphis....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis....The World Is Ours Memphis....
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(11-14-2013 10:11 AM)tigerscane Wrote:  Wiggins is a great Athlete I said that much, So was John Wall, And I said Wiggins would have an OK NBA Career as well, So too is John Wall....But He wouldn't be the All world Franchise Player that he is being Hyped to be, and that his game will get slightly better once he reaches NBA, But not much more than what it is now, and he has pretty much Maxed out, and Thus once he adds More muscle mass to his frame which tends to happen, he will lose some of his quickness, and his frame isn't built to carry that kinda muscle....Where as Kuran Iverson, has the frame to add more but he keep growing after his Soph y ear, and now is learning to play much taller in the process....Kuran Iverson has Superior Ball handling skills, So though he isn't the Great Athlete Wiggins is, with his Superior Ball handling skills it allows him to break down his man one on one anytime he wants to, plus has a deep range on his jumper and great form.....When you can handle the ball, and shoot the ball with very good range, and have great court vision and great passer as well, you will be h ard to handle regardless of being and all world Athlete ala Penny.....Not that Kuran or Penny aren't really good Athletes, just not jaw dropping, but its their ball handling playmaking ability that is jaw dropping with them.....Hell even Kidd-Gilchrist was rated number 1 out of HS and went 3 in the draft, as I also said Tyreke was number 1, and went top 4, and John Wall who is alot like Wiggins from a point guard position was an all world Athelte, went number 1 and is a very very good NBA player, Just not the Franchise type they thought he would be.....and That Wall could be maxed out, which might be the same route for Wiggins......Again I said it before, Kuran Iverson in my eyes, and those some of Other Scouts from the league feel Kuran Iverson Could have, more Long term Potential and Skill set than that of Andrew Wiggins or Parker......Once he gets his back to the basket game going to match his perimeter game Kuran "The Truth" Iverson will be unstoppable and just too hard to handle or match up with....A 6-9 Magic Johnson/ Penny Type point forward who makes everyone around him that much better because of his Ability and that makes a Rare Special kinda superstar, which is Kuran "The Truth" Iverson.....Wiggins is be good with a decent to good NBA career, just long term will not be as good as Kuran Iverson in the NBA.....One Dream, One Team, Memphis....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis....The World Is Ours Memphis.....Side note- Make sure you watch the game tonight and the season and pay attention, If you saw the CBU game you noticed the skills of Iverson with his passing, and court vision and his superior ball handling skills, and with his Superior Work Ethic watch out....

You truely are clueless to include him in a statement like that!01-wingedeagle Penny was a GREAT ATHLETE with GREAT HOPS as well. TC.... man please, Let It Go. The more you write, the more you show just how little you do know. 03-lmfao Now twist that one around if you can. You wrote it, not me. 05-mafia If you had seen Penny play as much as I did, from Binghampton to Olando, live and on TV, you would never write such a lame statement. 05-nono
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I dont give a <crap> about his NBA potential, I care about what he can do for us right now.
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SMH @Geedog......You just do not get it or understand, or good at judging talent so let us Talent Evaluaters again do "OUR" job and you and everyone else watch the show.....Like i said Tony Wroten would begin to break out and become a star so to he is in Philly.....Now OUr Grizz should have never traded him, but too late now.....Kidd-Gilchrist was once talked about like Wiggins and was top 3 and as with John Wall, Wiggins will be a very good NBA player or Decent, just not the Franchise Superstar you and the Hype Machine is making him out to be.....Where as Kuran "The Truth" Iverson will be and has the better long term pro potential and brighter pro future in the long run....Now is Wroten a jaw dropping athlete, No, but has superior handles and great work ethic which make him tough to guard, and is getting better on his outside shot, because of good Form on his jumper......@ Geedog just watch the show and let us Real Evalulators do "OUR" jobs......Just saying....One Dream, One Team, Memphis.....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis....The World Is Ours Memphis....
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(11-14-2013 10:34 AM)tigerscane Wrote:  Another thing Geedog, And Even Bluto can tell you this and others....I said Tony Wroten was gonna begin to break out, and should be the Grizz SG, but they traded him to the Sixers,......He had a triple double last night and his Stats per minute are going up and up and he is beginning to show the talent of becoming a superstar as i said he was......And Will Barton had games last year, and one aginst Kobe Bryant that showed you his game is good and skills are there as well.....SO yes I know how to do my job and Judge talent, and not just the Hype that is just thrown out, but long term pro potential......One Dream, One Team, Memphis....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis....The World Is Ours Memphis....

I don't think anyone is claiming that you don't mop a hell of a floor, TC.
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You will see just how good and great Kuran "The Truth" Iverson is soon enough, and everyone will come back saying yes Kuran Iverson is the Real Deal just as i am telling you he is, because #Fact is He is the Real Deal.....The World Is Ours Memphis....
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@MC- Well Kuran Iverson had his way on Wiggins at the Jordan Brand Classic, and turn heads a few times......Just saying....One Dream, One Team, Memphis....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis....The World Is Ours Memphis...
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(11-14-2013 11:32 AM)tigerscane Wrote:  @MC- Well Kuran Iverson had his way on Wiggins at the Jordan Brand Classic, and turn heads a few times......Just saying....One Dream, One Team, Memphis....All for one, One for all, All for Memphis....The World Is Ours Memphis...

I guess we'll wait and see what they both do this year.
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Can someone explain why this future NBA superstar was not even in the first or second 5 against CBU and was in durring mop up time with the walk-ons? I'm not questioning that he is talented and has size, I'm just wondering what could possibly be keeping our only future all NBA pro on the end of the bench. Is it injury? Are the rumors of trouble in practice true? Is Josh really as clueless as some believe? Inquiring minds want to know.
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