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RE: L'ville might still be in AAC next year?
(11-09-2013 12:07 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  
(11-08-2013 04:55 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Do not hold your breath. Some else is happening. Maryland may back out on the Big 10. Louisville would then be the ACC's 15th team for football, does the ACC then add UConn or Cincinnati as 16th or Navy for football only paired with Notre Dame? 05-stirthepot

I recall seeing a Maryland post to that affect, but it sounded more hopeful than anything realistic. It would be interesting, not only for the ACC, but for the B1G.

If... HUGE if... Maryland "backed out" of the B-10, expect two things:
1-- A GIGANTIC lawsuit from the B10 against Maryland for "breach of contract," a lawsuit so massive that Maryland would forever regret the decision...

and...

2- UConn would be gone to the B10 next year. The B10 would probably pay for the entirety of the UConn immediate exit fee, which would be part of the BoC suit against Maryland.

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Besides which, UL would STILL be in the ACC and the AAC would be out the services of BOTH UConn and UL.

It ain't going to happen, but do you REALLY want to try?
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(11-08-2013 04:55 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Do not hold your breath. Some else is happening. Maryland may back out on the Big 10. Louisville would then be the ACC's 15th team for football, does the ACC then add UConn or Cincinnati as 16th or Navy for football only paired with Notre Dame? 05-stirthepot

Where did you get this from?? Speculation, educated guess or credible source?
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RE: L'ville might still be in AAC next year?
(11-09-2013 05:11 PM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  
(11-08-2013 04:55 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Do not hold your breath. Some else is happening. Maryland may back out on the Big 10. Louisville would then be the ACC's 15th team for football, does the ACC then add UConn or Cincinnati as 16th or Navy for football only paired with Notre Dame? 05-stirthepot

Where did you get this from?? Speculation, educated guess or credible source?

Or dropping acid?

I think that's the most likely source of such a crazy scenario...
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Just heard it from a couple Maryland booster that I know. 07-coffee3
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RE: L'ville might still be in AAC next year?
(11-09-2013 04:37 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  
(11-09-2013 12:07 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  
(11-08-2013 04:55 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Do not hold your breath. Some else is happening. Maryland may back out on the Big 10. Louisville would then be the ACC's 15th team for football, does the ACC then add UConn or Cincinnati as 16th or Navy for football only paired with Notre Dame? 05-stirthepot

I recall seeing a Maryland post to that affect, but it sounded more hopeful than anything realistic. It would be interesting, not only for the ACC, but for the B1G.

If... HUGE if... Maryland "backed out" of the B-10, expect two things:
1-- A GIGANTIC lawsuit from the B10 against Maryland for "breach of contract," a lawsuit so massive that Maryland would forever regret the decision...

and...

2- UConn would be gone to the B10 next year. The B10 would probably pay for the entirety of the UConn immediate exit fee, which would be part of the BoC suit against Maryland.

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Besides which, UL would STILL be in the ACC and the AAC would be out the services of BOTH UConn and UL.

It ain't going to happen, but do you REALLY want to try?

And Cincinnati would probably be ACC team 16.
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RE: L'ville might still be in AAC next year?
(11-09-2013 06:10 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  
(11-09-2013 04:37 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  
(11-09-2013 12:07 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  
(11-08-2013 04:55 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Do not hold your breath. Some else is happening. Maryland may back out on the Big 10. Louisville would then be the ACC's 15th team for football, does the ACC then add UConn or Cincinnati as 16th or Navy for football only paired with Notre Dame? 05-stirthepot

I recall seeing a Maryland post to that affect, but it sounded more hopeful than anything realistic. It would be interesting, not only for the ACC, but for the B1G.

If... HUGE if... Maryland "backed out" of the B-10, expect two things:
1-- A GIGANTIC lawsuit from the B10 against Maryland for "breach of contract," a lawsuit so massive that Maryland would forever regret the decision...

and...

2- UConn would be gone to the B10 next year. The B10 would probably pay for the entirety of the UConn immediate exit fee, which would be part of the BoC suit against Maryland.

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Besides which, UL would STILL be in the ACC and the AAC would be out the services of BOTH UConn and UL.

It ain't going to happen, but do you REALLY want to try?

And Cincinnati would probably be ACC team 16.

Never happening.

First, because the seat will ALWAYS be saved for Notre Dame. Second, with UL in the ACC, there is no need for Cincinnati...the market is filled.

UC's only spot is in the Big XII...
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(11-09-2013 08:57 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Was Louisvile's offer contingent?

I can see where the ACC might not want to give Maryland some equitable defense to the exit fee (how are you harmed ACC? You replaced us with the national champion/Sugar Bowl champ/CWS team!)

Maybe Louisville's offer was contingent on the exit fee resolution. Did anybody make a FOIA request for the ACC/Louisville agreement so we can read what it says?

In all probability Louisville's offer is contingent upon the departure of Maryland. Coach Pitino's remarks are typical of his 'positive attitude' toward most everything. He is a good coach but he's not necessarily privy to the legal intricacies of conference realignment. On the other hand, Ramsey is buried in it up to his neck. It is extremely unwise to disregard his assessment in light of the legal staff at his disposal.

In addition, the move to join the Big 10 is most likely based upon the contingency that Maryland will be allowed to withdraw from the ACC as well. If a homeowner chooses to buy a new home, both the purchase of the new home and the sale of the existing home are contingent upon the occurrence of the other. The money involved with conference realignment far exceeds the amounts involved in buying a home. The attorneys would be fools to enter into such a contract without such contingencies being spelled out.

You can rest assured the judge in Maryland has legitimate reasons for delaying legal proceedings pending a ruling from the North Carolina courts. The most obvious of which would be a favorable judgment for the ACC. Should the NC courts rule in favor of the conference, Maryland would be left to either pay the exit fees demanded or abort their efforts to join the Big 10. The ACC does not have the authority to evict Maryland from the conference if they opt to abort the move. Such an eviction would require judicial involvement.

Based upon Ramsey's statement, Louisville protected themselves from just this type of contingency. Exit fees from Maryland are only one aspect of all this; entry fees must be paid by Louisville as well. Again we're looking at a lot of money and it is highly unlikely Louisville agreed to terms that didn't include contingencies necessary to protect their money. You can rest assured Ramsey knows exactly what he's talking about.

Despite wishful thinking that Louisville's move to the ACC is a "done deal," it is anything but! Rutgers' move isn't contingent upon anything with Louisville and they should be free to move as planned. As for the incoming schools, they may, or may not, be contingent upon Louisville's departure. Any such contingencies could affect one of the newcomers or all of them depending upon the contractual agreements with the American and Conference USA.

At present it would be terribly unwise to disregard Ramsey's statements regardless of the opinions of Louisville's fan base or those of Rick Pitino. This is basically a classic example of counting your chickens before they're hatched.
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RE: L'ville might still be in AAC next year?
Wow....
The breath and width of some of the idiocy here is amazing sometimes.

John Swafford's quote:

"On the timing of Louisville joining the ACC, and the impact of the swap of Maryland for Louisville on the ACC's media deals: "To answer your second question, no, it does not change anything. In terms of when Louisville will join us, that will be between Louisville and the AAC, as we have said previously in other situations, and we will be ready to receive them as soon as they can join us in an appropriate way in terms of their exit from the AAC."

Sounds like ACC is prepared either way.
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RE: L'ville might still be in AAC next year?
(11-10-2013 06:18 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Wow....
The breath and width of some of the idiocy here is amazing sometimes.

John Swafford's quote:

"On the timing of Louisville joining the ACC, and the impact of the swap of Maryland for Louisville on the ACC's media deals: "To answer your second question, no, it does not change anything. In terms of when Louisville will join us, that will be between Louisville and the AAC, as we have said previously in other situations, and we will be ready to receive them as soon as they can join us in an appropriate way in terms of their exit from the AAC."

Sounds like ACC is prepared either way.
CJ

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(11-08-2013 05:55 PM)TheEastisPurple Wrote:  
(11-08-2013 05:52 PM)Maize Wrote:  1...I never thought we would go undefeated in conference....always said the goals for me was undefeated OOC, win the AQ Bid and BCS Bowl Game...

2...Winning the AAC would be nice but not really the goal...it is a 3rd Straight Final Four and a opportunity to Defend the Title...Louisville is one of 8 schools that can win the title this year...along with Kentucky, Michigan State, Duke, Kansas, Arizona, Syracuse and Michigan...

I know man I wasn't talking to you, though I understand the need for you to defend UL. 04-cheers

UC is 7-2 and 4-1 in the AAC…not bad for a new coaching staff. This team isn't spectacular but they are decent. Hoops wise…we are young and may take some early losses but I think we make the ncaa again. That's the report in regards to UC as pertaining to your "how'd that work out" question.
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(11-10-2013 05:33 AM)shafted1 Wrote:  
(11-09-2013 08:57 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Was Louisvile's offer contingent?

I can see where the ACC might not want to give Maryland some equitable defense to the exit fee (how are you harmed ACC? You replaced us with the national champion/Sugar Bowl champ/CWS team!)

Maybe Louisville's offer was contingent on the exit fee resolution. Did anybody make a FOIA request for the ACC/Louisville agreement so we can read what it says?

In all probability Louisville's offer is contingent upon the departure of Maryland. Coach Pitino's remarks are typical of his 'positive attitude' toward most everything. He is a good coach but he's not necessarily privy to the legal intricacies of conference realignment. On the other hand, Ramsey is buried in it up to his neck. It is extremely unwise to disregard his assessment in light of the legal staff at his disposal.

In addition, the move to join the Big 10 is most likely based upon the contingency that Maryland will be allowed to withdraw from the ACC as well. If a homeowner chooses to buy a new home, both the purchase of the new home and the sale of the existing home are contingent upon the occurrence of the other. The money involved with conference realignment far exceeds the amounts involved in buying a home. The attorneys would be fools to enter into such a contract without such contingencies being spelled out.

You can rest assured the judge in Maryland has legitimate reasons for delaying legal proceedings pending a ruling from the North Carolina courts. The most obvious of which would be a favorable judgment for the ACC. Should the NC courts rule in favor of the conference, Maryland would be left to either pay the exit fees demanded or abort their efforts to join the Big 10. The ACC does not have the authority to evict Maryland from the conference if they opt to abort the move. Such an eviction would require judicial involvement.

Based upon Ramsey's statement, Louisville protected themselves from just this type of contingency. Exit fees from Maryland are only one aspect of all this; entry fees must be paid by Louisville as well. Again we're looking at a lot of money and it is highly unlikely Louisville agreed to terms that didn't include contingencies necessary to protect their money. You can rest assured Ramsey knows exactly what he's talking about.

Despite wishful thinking that Louisville's move to the ACC is a "done deal," it is anything but! Rutgers' move isn't contingent upon anything with Louisville and they should be free to move as planned. As for the incoming schools, they may, or may not, be contingent upon Louisville's departure. Any such contingencies could affect one of the newcomers or all of them depending upon the contractual agreements with the American and Conference USA.

At present it would be terribly unwise to disregard Ramsey's statements regardless of the opinions of Louisville's fan base or those of Rick Pitino. This is basically a classic example of counting your chickens before they're hatched.

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(11-10-2013 06:18 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Wow....
The breath and width of some of the idiocy here is amazing sometimes.

John Swafford's quote:

"On the timing of Louisville joining the ACC, and the impact of the swap of Maryland for Louisville on the ACC's media deals: "To answer your second question, no, it does not change anything. In terms of when Louisville will join us, that will be between Louisville and the AAC, as we have said previously in other situations, and we will be ready to receive them as soon as they can join us in an appropriate way in terms of their exit from the AAC."

Sounds like ACC is prepared either way.
CJ

For the record, the word is 'breadth;' not breath. Also, breadth means 'width.' Before making sarcastic comments intended to display some kind of wisdom or as an attack upon comments of others, the least you could do is try to make an educated statement. One need only consider your statement to assess the validity of your opinion.
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(11-10-2013 09:01 AM)hack Wrote:  
(11-10-2013 05:33 AM)shafted1 Wrote:  
(11-09-2013 08:57 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Was Louisvile's offer contingent?

I can see where the ACC might not want to give Maryland some equitable defense to the exit fee (how are you harmed ACC? You replaced us with the national champion/Sugar Bowl champ/CWS team!)

Maybe Louisville's offer was contingent on the exit fee resolution. Did anybody make a FOIA request for the ACC/Louisville agreement so we can read what it says?

In all probability Louisville's offer is contingent upon the departure of Maryland. Coach Pitino's remarks are typical of his 'positive attitude' toward most everything. He is a good coach but he's not necessarily privy to the legal intricacies of conference realignment. On the other hand, Ramsey is buried in it up to his neck. It is extremely unwise to disregard his assessment in light of the legal staff at his disposal.

In addition, the move to join the Big 10 is most likely based upon the contingency that Maryland will be allowed to withdraw from the ACC as well. If a homeowner chooses to buy a new home, both the purchase of the new home and the sale of the existing home are contingent upon the occurrence of the other. The money involved with conference realignment far exceeds the amounts involved in buying a home. The attorneys would be fools to enter into such a contract without such contingencies being spelled out.

You can rest assured the judge in Maryland has legitimate reasons for delaying legal proceedings pending a ruling from the North Carolina courts. The most obvious of which would be a favorable judgment for the ACC. Should the NC courts rule in favor of the conference, Maryland would be left to either pay the exit fees demanded or abort their efforts to join the Big 10. The ACC does not have the authority to evict Maryland from the conference if they opt to abort the move. Such an eviction would require judicial involvement.

Based upon Ramsey's statement, Louisville protected themselves from just this type of contingency. Exit fees from Maryland are only one aspect of all this; entry fees must be paid by Louisville as well. Again we're looking at a lot of money and it is highly unlikely Louisville agreed to terms that didn't include contingencies necessary to protect their money. You can rest assured Ramsey knows exactly what he's talking about.

Despite wishful thinking that Louisville's move to the ACC is a "done deal," it is anything but! Rutgers' move isn't contingent upon anything with Louisville and they should be free to move as planned. As for the incoming schools, they may, or may not, be contingent upon Louisville's departure. Any such contingencies could affect one of the newcomers or all of them depending upon the contractual agreements with the American and Conference USA.

At present it would be terribly unwise to disregard Ramsey's statements regardless of the opinions of Louisville's fan base or those of Rick Pitino. This is basically a classic example of counting your chickens before they're hatched.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...q-v1TTUyhM

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Ok, tell me more about UL staying. 03-lmfao

you memphis fans are so funny.
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(11-13-2013 07:54 PM)hack Wrote:  Ok, tell me more about UL staying. 03-lmfao

you memphis fans are so funny.

nice generalization fella 05-mafia
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