(11-08-2013 08:20 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 03:47 PM)Carolina Stang Wrote:  i think the tiers within our own conference are quite interesting:

LV
Cincy

SMU
USF
UConn
UCF

The rest under $1M

Kevin Sumlin had a contract at Houston that was escalated from $1.1M to $1.5M over time. And that was before the 2011 season where he went 13-1. We were prepared to pay him $2M if he stayed.

Levine's getting $900K because this is his first head coaching gig. I'm sure O'Leary did not start at $1.5M at UCF. He's been there 10 years, and probably has had several raises.

True.

When GOL signed his first UCF contract extension in 2006 (he was initially hired in Dec 2003), his base compensation was approx $1 Million (divided into several different fields of payment...i.e. salary, radio/TV, etc....).

(11-08-2013 09:50 AM)shafted1 Wrote:  

(11-08-2013 09:31 AM)PGPirate Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 11:10 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 05:05 PM)TN Knightfan Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 04:34 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  I'd rather be 74th than 1st. Coaches salaries are out of control and it's way too much money to be paying a college coach. It's not small time thinking, if anything, it's progressive to not buy into the arms race.

Wow, you couldn't be more wrong here. If you don't think Nick Saban or Urban Meyer are worth what they're being paid, I don't know what to tell you. It's an investment, not an expense. They field teams that make the school millions more than what they're being paid.

^^^This^^^

Charlie Strong and Rick Pitino have made UofL millions more than the salary they receive. Some coaches donate back to the school. For instance Louisville has a building named after Rick Pitino's brother in law that died in the 9/11 attacks. Bobby Knight used to donate back to IU as did Joe Pa at Penn State.
Name coaches are a tremendous investment, if you can afford them.
CJ

Did people not watch 60 Minutes last Sunday?

It was on Saben. The Alabama's President called Saben the best investment the school has ever made.

It is one thing to give insane salaries and receive mediocre returns. But it sounds like the ROI is huge with Saben.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50158430n

Alabama is not self-sufficient. If their ROI is so great, why does Alabama continue to draw subsidies from the Feds?

Because they're able to. Why would you not draw subsidies from the federal government? Money is money.

(11-07-2013 02:44 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Luckily, we dont have to pay Ruff all that much to stay here with him being an alum. Skip was raking in 2 million + when he was a coach here.

I hope that is not the official stance on Coach Ruff's pay from our Administration…We should pay him fair market value and not penalize him for being a dedicated Alum. With that said I think his current pay is fair based on his performance to date. If he does build a solid winning program at ECU I hope that we pay him his fair market value or at least offer it to him….If he chooses to not accept and puts it towards Assistant Coach pay that is fine.

The number for Tuberville looks higher than it actually is because they are including the $950k+ that UC is picking up for his buyout at Texas Tech. He is actually making about $2.2 million.

(11-07-2013 11:46 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  Rhule's package has been reported at $1.2M, which I hope isn't true, because that's a lot of money for an unproven HC. Addazio's salary was $612K and Golden's was $900K.

If Daz was $612K, then no wonder he was quick to bolt. I thought Rhule's $1.2M was with all incentives included. At 1-8 he is not making above base.

That's why I said package.

(11-07-2013 11:45 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 11:42 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Who's overpaid, and who's underpaid?

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/s...aaf/coach/

School Conf Head Coach School Pay Other Pay Total Pay Max Bonus

Temple AAC Matt Rhule -- -- -- -- --
Rutgers AAC Kyle Flood $850,000 $10,000 $860,000 $350,000
Houston AAC Tony Levine $900,000 $2,100 $902,100 $340,000
Memphis AAC Justin Fuente $956,779 $0 $956,779 $625,000
UCF AAC George O'Leary $1,534,728 $0 $1,534,728 $600,000
Connecticut AAC Paul Pasqualoni $1,700,000 -- $1,700,000 $116,666
South Florida AAC Willie Taggart $1,807,745 -- $1,807,745 $650,000
Southern Methodist AAC June Jones $1,911,511 -- $1,911,511 --
Cincinnati AAC Tommy Tuberville $3,143,000 $0 $3,143,000 $465,000
Louisville AAC Charlie Strong $3,700,000 $38,500 $3,738,500 $808,333

Maybe we are getting a good deal with GOLol The 6th and 8th highest paid coaches are leading the lead.

For the most part all of them are overpaid. It's just a network of who you know. We'll never know if a great high school coach could step in and immediately have the same or better results with a salary 1/10 of the going rate. People are not willing to take chances on no names because of the fear of failure. If they fail with a top name it doesn't threaten their reputation and job near as much.

(11-07-2013 04:20 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  What happens if GOL asks for a raise? Do you give it to him or let him walk?

You most certainly give it to him. That was always The Big East's problem. The good coaches would always jump to the next job up the coaching ladder. Obviously Coach O'Leary's needs and aspirations at 67 are going to be different from Coach Levine's at Houston who is only 41.

Aside from improved play off access for the conference to collectively raise the profile of every one there is little each American school to keep their coach except pay them.

There are very few destination jobs. If Alabama can lose Saban to Texas, no school is safe.
CJ

(11-07-2013 11:42 AM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Who's overpaid, and who's underpaid?

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/s...aaf/coach/

School Conf Head Coach School Pay Other Pay Total Pay Max Bonus

Temple AAC Matt Rhule -- -- -- -- --
Rutgers AAC Kyle Flood $850,000 $10,000 $860,000 $350,000
Houston AAC Tony Levine $900,000 $2,100 $902,100 $340,000
Memphis AAC Justin Fuente $956,779 $0 $956,779 $625,000
UCF AAC George O'Leary $1,534,728 $0 $1,534,728 $600,000
Connecticut AAC Paul Pasqualoni $1,700,000 -- $1,700,000 $116,666
South Florida AAC Willie Taggart $1,807,745 -- $1,807,745 $650,000
Southern Methodist AAC June Jones $1,911,511 -- $1,911,511 --
Cincinnati AAC Tommy Tuberville $3,143,000 $0 $3,143,000 $465,000
Louisville AAC Charlie Strong $3,700,000 $38,500 $3,738,500 $808,333

None are overpaid or underpaid..IMO. Some though are not giving a good ROI and some are.

June gets paid $1.9 million to cover the cost of his house in Hawaii, and all the Hawaiian vacations he takes. . . Especially, during the important time just before the recruits sign their LOI

(11-08-2013 01:19 PM)PGPirate Wrote:  

(11-08-2013 09:50 AM)shafted1 Wrote:  

(11-08-2013 09:31 AM)PGPirate Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 11:10 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 05:05 PM)TN Knightfan Wrote:  Wow, you couldn't be more wrong here. If you don't think Nick Saban or Urban Meyer are worth what they're being paid, I don't know what to tell you. It's an investment, not an expense. They field teams that make the school millions more than what they're being paid.

^^^This^^^

Charlie Strong and Rick Pitino have made UofL millions more than the salary they receive. Some coaches donate back to the school. For instance Louisville has a building named after Rick Pitino's brother in law that died in the 9/11 attacks. Bobby Knight used to donate back to IU as did Joe Pa at Penn State.
Name coaches are a tremendous investment, if you can afford them.
CJ

Did people not watch 60 Minutes last Sunday?

It was on Saben. The Alabama's President called Saben the best investment the school has ever made.

It is one thing to give insane salaries and receive mediocre returns. But it sounds like the ROI is huge with Saben.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50158430n

Alabama is not self-sufficient. If their ROI is so great, why does Alabama continue to draw subsidies from the Feds?

Because they're able to. Why would you not draw subsidies from the federal government? Money is money.

Your attitude is precisely what's wrong with American society today. The fact still remains they are not self-sufficient which defies any claim of Saban's salary being a good investment. Operating any business at a loss is not a "huge ROI."

(11-10-2013 01:40 PM)shafted1 Wrote:  

(11-08-2013 01:19 PM)PGPirate Wrote:  

(11-08-2013 09:50 AM)shafted1 Wrote:  

(11-08-2013 09:31 AM)PGPirate Wrote:  

(11-07-2013 11:10 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  ^^^This^^^

Charlie Strong and Rick Pitino have made UofL millions more than the salary they receive. Some coaches donate back to the school. For instance Louisville has a building named after Rick Pitino's brother in law that died in the 9/11 attacks. Bobby Knight used to donate back to IU as did Joe Pa at Penn State.
Name coaches are a tremendous investment, if you can afford them.
CJ

Did people not watch 60 Minutes last Sunday?

It was on Saben. The Alabama's President called Saben the best investment the school has ever made.

It is one thing to give insane salaries and receive mediocre returns. But it sounds like the ROI is huge with Saben.

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50158430n

Alabama is not self-sufficient. If their ROI is so great, why does Alabama continue to draw subsidies from the Feds?

Because they're able to. Why would you not draw subsidies from the federal government? Money is money.

Your attitude is precisely what's wrong with American society today. The fact still remains they are not self-sufficient which defies any claim of Saban's salary being a good investment. Operating any business at a loss is not a "huge ROI."

Not to derail the thread, but it isn't my person attitude. But the one of everyones.