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RE: MAC adds Poinsetta Bowl; Now up to 5 guaranteed bowls
(11-09-2013 12:58 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-09-2013 08:28 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  
(11-07-2013 05:51 PM)stever20 Wrote:  CUSA in no flipping way held serve. They lost maybe their 5 best teams Houston, UCF, SMU, ECU, Tulsa. Tulane is in the drivers seat for the division this year. Memphis sucks in football but is a big name in hoops.

MTSU 5-4 this year Now has beat Memphis several times in a row
FAU 3-6 this year
FIU 1-7 this year Beat USF
UNT 6-3 this year
UTSA 4-5 this year Beat TulsaLT 3-5 this year
Then 2 FCS callus(1 being a new program). That's not holding serve at all.

The MAC and SBC closed the gap with CUSA. There's a much larger gap now between those 3 and AAC/MWC.

WKU beat Navy and Kentucky. Rice beat Tulsa and Kansas.

You are just like AttackCoug. Both of you do selective editing. You take the worst of CUSA and compare it to the best of AAC. Both of you got that strategy down cold.

The bottom half of AAC just absolutely sucks. In fact, other than UCF and Cincy, this year is a catastrophe for ACC, and this was the year AAC need a good year to establish itself in the public eye.

Leave me out of your rant. You have the wrong guy. I have made no such comparison.

As for the AAC having a disaster season---I think that's a terribly uninformed opinion. The AAC currently has 3 teams that have each only lost one game all season. Not one single FBS conference has more teams that are 1-loss or better. How many CUSA teams only have a single loss on the year? The word you are searching for is ZERO. So how on earth does that qualify as a "disaster" AAC season? Sure, some AAC teams have underperformed, but the first season of AAC football to date has actually been fairly interesting and better than many expected.

To claim that increased AAC tv coverage boosted USF recruiting, then turned into an overall statement that therefore: AAC recruiting will be boosted because they are on tv was absurd. And fits nicely into a definition of a rant.

Fits nicely into the similar "selective editing" of your good buddy Steve20 something. He cited all the losing records of CUSA teams, meanwhile forgetting about Temple, UConn, Memphis, and Tulsa.

Incorrectly calling my response a rant is basically saying I cannot respond to a valid response and therefore I will use negative name calling.
11-11-2013 12:40 PM
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RE: MAC adds Poinsetta Bowl; Now up to 5 guaranteed bowls
(11-11-2013 12:40 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  
(11-09-2013 12:58 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-09-2013 08:28 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  
(11-07-2013 05:51 PM)stever20 Wrote:  CUSA in no flipping way held serve. They lost maybe their 5 best teams Houston, UCF, SMU, ECU, Tulsa. Tulane is in the drivers seat for the division this year. Memphis sucks in football but is a big name in hoops.

MTSU 5-4 this year Now has beat Memphis several times in a row
FAU 3-6 this year
FIU 1-7 this year Beat USF
UNT 6-3 this year
UTSA 4-5 this year Beat TulsaLT 3-5 this year
Then 2 FCS callus(1 being a new program). That's not holding serve at all.

The MAC and SBC closed the gap with CUSA. There's a much larger gap now between those 3 and AAC/MWC.

WKU beat Navy and Kentucky. Rice beat Tulsa and Kansas.

You are just like AttackCoug. Both of you do selective editing. You take the worst of CUSA and compare it to the best of AAC. Both of you got that strategy down cold.

The bottom half of AAC just absolutely sucks. In fact, other than UCF and Cincy, this year is a catastrophe for ACC, and this was the year AAC need a good year to establish itself in the public eye.

Leave me out of your rant. You have the wrong guy. I have made no such comparison.

As for the AAC having a disaster season---I think that's a terribly uninformed opinion. The AAC currently has 3 teams that have each only lost one game all season. Not one single FBS conference has more teams that are 1-loss or better. How many CUSA teams only have a single loss on the year? The word you are searching for is ZERO. So how on earth does that qualify as a "disaster" AAC season? Sure, some AAC teams have underperformed, but the first season of AAC football to date has actually been fairly interesting and better than many expected.

To claim that increased AAC tv coverage boosted USF recruiting, then turned into an overall statement that therefore: AAC recruiting will be boosted because they are on tv was absurd. And fits nicely into a definition of a rant.

Fits nicely into the similar "selective editing" of your good buddy Steve20 something. He cited all the losing records of CUSA teams, meanwhile forgetting about Temple, UConn, Memphis, and Tulsa.

Incorrectly calling my response a rant is basically saying I cannot respond to a valid response and therefore I will use negative name calling.

lol...careful. Your liable to strain something doing all that spinning, twisting and advanced verbal gymnastics. Your original statement had me comparing the best of the AAC against the worst of CUSA. I did no such thing.

Regarding recruiting, I never said the new contract was responsible for their current recruiting. What I said was that USF recruting was not likley to slip because of the increased exposure that was coming in the new deal would provide extra support. Additional national tv exposure is a huge boon to recruiting. The first question recruits typically ask is "how often are you on ESPN?". AAC teams will have a great answer when recruits ask that question. Knowing that virtually every home game will be on national TV and many of those broadcasts will be on ABC/ESPN branded networks will be quite attractive to recruits. These kids want to be seen.
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RE: MAC adds Poinsetta Bowl; Now up to 5 guaranteed bowls
(11-11-2013 01:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-11-2013 12:40 PM)Tallgrass Wrote:  
(11-09-2013 12:58 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-09-2013 08:28 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  
(11-07-2013 05:51 PM)stever20 Wrote:  CUSA in no flipping way held serve. They lost maybe their 5 best teams Houston, UCF, SMU, ECU, Tulsa. Tulane is in the drivers seat for the division this year. Memphis sucks in football but is a big name in hoops.

MTSU 5-4 this year Now has beat Memphis several times in a row
FAU 3-6 this year
FIU 1-7 this year Beat USF
UNT 6-3 this year
UTSA 4-5 this year Beat TulsaLT 3-5 this year
Then 2 FCS callus(1 being a new program). That's not holding serve at all.

The MAC and SBC closed the gap with CUSA. There's a much larger gap now between those 3 and AAC/MWC.

WKU beat Navy and Kentucky. Rice beat Tulsa and Kansas.

You are just like AttackCoug. Both of you do selective editing. You take the worst of CUSA and compare it to the best of AAC. Both of you got that strategy down cold.

The bottom half of AAC just absolutely sucks. In fact, other than UCF and Cincy, this year is a catastrophe for ACC, and this was the year AAC need a good year to establish itself in the public eye.

Leave me out of your rant. You have the wrong guy. I have made no such comparison.

As for the AAC having a disaster season---I think that's a terribly uninformed opinion. The AAC currently has 3 teams that have each only lost one game all season. Not one single FBS conference has more teams that are 1-loss or better. How many CUSA teams only have a single loss on the year? The word you are searching for is ZERO. So how on earth does that qualify as a "disaster" AAC season? Sure, some AAC teams have underperformed, but the first season of AAC football to date has actually been fairly interesting and better than many expected.

To claim that increased AAC tv coverage boosted USF recruiting, then turned into an overall statement that therefore: AAC recruiting will be boosted because they are on tv was absurd. And fits nicely into a definition of a rant.

Fits nicely into the similar "selective editing" of your good buddy Steve20 something. He cited all the losing records of CUSA teams, meanwhile forgetting about Temple, UConn, Memphis, and Tulsa.

Incorrectly calling my response a rant is basically saying I cannot respond to a valid response and therefore I will use negative name calling.

lol...careful. Your liable to strain something doing all that spinning, twisting and advanced verbal gymnastics. Your original statement had me comparing the best of the AAC against the worst of CUSA. I did no such thing.

Regarding recruiting, I never said the new contract was responsible for their current recruiting. What I said was that USF recruting was not likley to slip because of the increased exposure that was coming in the new deal would provide extra support. Additional national tv exposure is a huge boon to recruiting. The first question recruits typically ask is "how often are you on ESPN?". AAC teams will have a great answer when recruits ask that question. Knowing that virtually every home game will be on national TV and many of those broadcasts will be on ABC/ESPN branded networks will be quite attractive to recruits. These kids want to be seen.

I am careful, in fact, very careful...because I well realize if one posts anything different than what is riding on the current bandwagon or something wrong, you catch holy heck on this board. Your highlighted statement is wrong on two respects, AAC is not experience a boom in recruiting for 2014 over 2013. Second, schools like Houston and Tulsa were already getting many games on tv, not all, but many football games. The tv coverage of Houston and Tulsa football was/is quite good within CUSA's tv contract.

I don't know if being on tv is the first question recruits ask. I don't know what ranks first to recruits or, even if there is a first but a bundle of factors weighed before they make a decision. For example, I think the opportunity to play early is a heavy factor. Playing close to home where parents and friends can see the recruit play is probably an important factor. A winning program versus a losing program is another strong factor.

But then again you, like your good buddy Steve20, KNOW these things.

Congrats to UTSA, now a 3 year old IA program, for beating Tulane, adding a second AAC victory to their win column. UTSA has not had much tv coverage in those 3 years and still seems to be doing just fine.

But, regarding AAC basketball, iF Cincy and UConn stay, the AAC basketball quality and tv coverage is quite strong.
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RE: MAC adds Poinsetta Bowl; Now up to 5 guaranteed bowls
(11-12-2013 11:44 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Congrats to UTSA, now a 3 year old IA program, for beating Tulane, adding a second AAC victory to their win column. UTSA has not had much tv coverage in those 3 years and still seems to be doing just fine.

UTSA is a rock star addition to C-USA. They remind me of UCF when C-USA 2.0 was created. I have no doubt the Roadrunners will soon pass the programs long in place at SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, Rice, and UTEP.
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RE: MAC adds Poinsetta Bowl; Now up to 5 guaranteed bowls
(11-12-2013 01:31 PM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(11-12-2013 11:44 AM)Tallgrass Wrote:  Congrats to UTSA, now a 3 year old IA program, for beating Tulane, adding a second AAC victory to their win column. UTSA has not had much tv coverage in those 3 years and still seems to be doing just fine.

UTSA is a rock star addition to C-USA. They remind me of UCF when C-USA 2.0 was created. I have no doubt the Roadrunners will soon pass the programs long in place at SMU, Tulsa, Tulane, Rice, and UTEP.

UTSA and UNT are now/will be formidable competitors with AAC/West schools.
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