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Building a Program
Houston has had many ups and downs, but it appears it has some sustainability.

Quarterbacks
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Ware, Klinger, Kolb, Keenum, and O'Korn

http://www.chron.com/sports/cougars/arti...954935.php

If O'Korn plays in the pros, he will be the third Houston QB to reach that level with the exclusion of Piland who no longer plays due to multiple concussions.

Coaches
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UH has sustained some success in spite of a number of quality coaches leaving the program, including:

1 Sumlin - HC Texas A&M
2 Briles - HC Baylor
3 Klingsbury - HC Texas Tech
4 Holgerson - HC West Virginia (at least until he gets fired)
5 Stewart - DC Maryland
6 Dimel - OC kstate (UH 2000 to 2002)

Levine may be the best of them all.

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RE: Building a Program
(11-05-2013 12:00 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  Houston has had many ups and downs, but it appears it has some sustainability.

Quarterbacks
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Ware, Klinger, Kolb, Keenum, and O'Korn

http://www.chron.com/sports/cougars/arti...954935.php

If O'Korn plays in the pros, he will be the third Houston QB to reach that level with the exclusion of Piland who no longer plays due to multiple concussions.

Coaches
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UH has sustained some success in spite of a number of quality coaches leaving the program, including:

1 Sumlin - HC Texas A&M
2 Briles - HC Baylor
3 Klingsbury - HC Texas Tech
4 Holgerson - HC West Virginia (at least until he gets fired)
5 Stewart - DC Maryland
6 Dimel - OC kstate (UH 2000 to 2002)

Levine may be the best of them all.

Touting my school. You betcha!

I like Levine so far. I think everyone is entitled to one bad year, but he got us O'Korn and Ward. He's not a bad talent evaluator. I just hope he can continue to improve our recruiting to the point where Sumlin was getting us. Sumlin has been lucky to get two great QBs that were recruited by the coach before him, but he's a good coach. I trust Levine. This year reminds me very much of 2007 when Keenum won the QB spot outright. That was also Sumlin's first year. If we have some sustained success this year, we'll be able to fill our stadium well next year.
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RE: Building a Program
(11-05-2013 12:09 PM)dezagcoog Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 12:00 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  Houston has had many ups and downs, but it appears it has some sustainability.

Quarterbacks
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Ware, Klinger, Kolb, Keenum, and O'Korn

http://www.chron.com/sports/cougars/arti...954935.php

If O'Korn plays in the pros, he will be the third Houston QB to reach that level with the exclusion of Piland who no longer plays due to multiple concussions.

Coaches
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UH has sustained some success in spite of a number of quality coaches leaving the program, including:

1 Sumlin - HC Texas A&M
2 Briles - HC Baylor
3 Klingsbury - HC Texas Tech
4 Holgerson - HC West Virginia (at least until he gets fired)
5 Stewart - DC Maryland
6 Dimel - OC kstate (UH 2000 to 2002)

Levine may be the best of them all.

Touting my school. You betcha!

I like Levine so far. I think everyone is entitled to one bad year, but he got us O'Korn and Ward. He's not a bad talent evaluator. I just hope he can continue to improve our recruiting to the point where Sumlin was getting us. Sumlin has been lucky to get two great QBs that were recruited by the coach before him, but he's a good coach. I trust Levine. This year reminds me very much of 2007 when Keenum won the QB spot outright. That was also Sumlin's first year. If we have some sustained success this year, we'll be able to fill our stadium well next year.

I like Levine too... I'm not quite sure Levine is out of the woods just yet, however... We need him continue recruiting good talent "Greenberry, O'Korn, etc.," and stack W's.
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RE: Building a Program
(11-05-2013 12:00 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  Houston has had many ups and downs, but it appears it has some sustainability.

Quarterbacks
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Ware, Klinger, Kolb, Keenum, and O'Korn

http://www.chron.com/sports/cougars/arti...954935.php

If O'Korn plays in the pros, he will be the third Houston QB to reach that level with the exclusion of Piland who no longer plays due to multiple concussions.

Coaches
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UH has sustained some success in spite of a number of quality coaches leaving the program, including:

1 Sumlin - HC Texas A&M
2 Briles - HC Baylor
3 Klingsbury - HC Texas Tech
4 Holgerson - HC West Virginia (at least until he gets fired)
5 Stewart - DC Maryland
6 Dimel - OC kstate (UH 2000 to 2002)

Levine may be the best of them all.

Touting my school. You betcha!

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RE: Building a Program
not sure I could put levine above sumlin but its clear he has houston on the right track. Seems like hes the kind of guy who could take any QB and make them into tremendous passing QBs, much like Sumlin did and is doing.
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I think he is a good coach. Tony Levine was director of football operations at Louisville in 2003.

Superlatives from his two seasons as special teams coach at Louisville included seven blocked kicks, three punt returns for touchdowns and an NCAA single-season record of 77 consecutive extra points by kicker Art Carmody. Carmody, a former walk-on, was also named First-Team All-Big East under Levine and went on to win the 2006 Lou Groza Award as the nation's top collegiate kicker. Carmody finished his playing career as the NCAA's all-time leading scorer for a kicker with 433 points.
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(11-05-2013 12:32 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  I think he is a good coach. Tony Levine was director of football operations at Louisville in 2003.

Superlatives from his two seasons as special teams coach at Louisville included seven blocked kicks, three punt returns for touchdowns and an NCAA single-season record of 77 consecutive extra points by kicker Art Carmody. Carmody, a former walk-on, was also named First-Team All-Big East under Levine and went on to win the 2006 Lou Groza Award as the nation's top collegiate kicker. Carmody finished his playing career as the NCAA's all-time leading scorer for a kicker with 433 points.
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Yeah, he also made our special teams pretty good! I think he's smart enough to learn as he goes.
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(11-05-2013 12:30 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  not sure I could put levine above sumlin but its clear he has houston on the right track. Seems like hes the kind of guy who could take any QB and make them into tremendous passing QBs, much like Sumlin did and is doing.

I wouldn't put him above Sumlin AS OF NOW. But Sumlin didn't turn those QB's into great QB's. Keenum was really smart already. Piland didn't play well when Keenum and Cotton went down. Keenum is a special guy. It seems that Manziel is special too. Most of Keenum's coaches all say that having him out there is like having a coach on the field. I think Sumlin has benefited from inheriting great QB's more than he's brought them along. Of course he also coaches them very well, but I don't see him turning a crud QB into a stud. I think we got lucky and hired well again. I would hate to be in a situation where we have to give a dud 3 yrs to prove he's a dud. That's basically what I feel about our BBall coach. I hope he proves me wrong.
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RE: Building a Program
(11-05-2013 06:21 PM)dezagcoog Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 12:30 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  not sure I could put levine above sumlin but its clear he has houston on the right track. Seems like hes the kind of guy who could take any QB and make them into tremendous passing QBs, much like Sumlin did and is doing.

I wouldn't put him above Sumlin AS OF NOW. But Sumlin didn't turn those QB's into great QB's. Keenum was really smart already. Piland didn't play well when Keenum and Cotton went down. Keenum is a special guy. It seems that Manziel is special too. Most of Keenum's coaches all say that having him out there is like having a coach on the field. I think Sumlin has benefited from inheriting great QB's more than he's brought them along. Of course he also coaches them very well, but I don't see him turning a crud QB into a stud. I think we got lucky and hired well again. I would hate to be in a situation where we have to give a dud 3 yrs to prove he's a dud. That's basically what I feel about our BBall coach. I hope he proves me wrong.
USF knows that pain. Holtz new era and now looks like everyone is off willie tag's bus.
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Oh hey...Cincinnati's just passing through.
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I just want to get back to 2003-2008...5 bowls in 6 years...40k attendance...players like DeAngelo.

I think Fuente can get it done.
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I think next year UH is very strong if we can keep our staff together.
Briles was the best coach so far, and the best evaluator of QB talent.

I think Fuentes is going to be good in the mold of Jeff Bowers of USM. Goes D first.
He had both UCF and UH in a tough position before letting each off the hook.
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(11-05-2013 06:47 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 06:21 PM)dezagcoog Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 12:30 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  not sure I could put levine above sumlin but its clear he has houston on the right track. Seems like hes the kind of guy who could take any QB and make them into tremendous passing QBs, much like Sumlin did and is doing.

I wouldn't put him above Sumlin AS OF NOW. But Sumlin didn't turn those QB's into great QB's. Keenum was really smart already. Piland didn't play well when Keenum and Cotton went down. Keenum is a special guy. It seems that Manziel is special too. Most of Keenum's coaches all say that having him out there is like having a coach on the field. I think Sumlin has benefited from inheriting great QB's more than he's brought them along. Of course he also coaches them very well, but I don't see him turning a crud QB into a stud. I think we got lucky and hired well again. I would hate to be in a situation where we have to give a dud 3 yrs to prove he's a dud. That's basically what I feel about our BBall coach. I hope he proves me wrong.
USF knows that pain. Holtz new era and now looks like everyone is off willie tag's bus.

You really have USF on the brain.....

CWT is going to be successful at USF. He just inherited a trainwreck from Lou's kid and had a huge gaping hole at QB. However, the defense is getting their swagger they had back despite playing a LOT of young players and you can see what CWT is trying to establish on offense. I like our future.

The only ppl off of "willie tag's bus" are UCF fans with an agenda. Most USF fans are excited about the future as are local high school coaches and recruits who see big things happening at USF.
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(11-05-2013 09:08 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I just want to get back to 2003-2008...5 bowls in 6 years...40k attendance...players like DeAngelo.

I think Fuente can get it done.

DeAngelo was a manchild and remember USF's games against him. I thought that Memphis was going to take off and it just never happened for you guys. However, I understand first hand now what a bad hire can do to a program. I like what Fuentes is doing from what I've seen this season.

BTW, any animosity from me toward Memphis have gone away now that RC Johnson is gone. That guy was clueless....
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(11-07-2013 07:48 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 06:47 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 06:21 PM)dezagcoog Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 12:30 PM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  not sure I could put levine above sumlin but its clear he has houston on the right track. Seems like hes the kind of guy who could take any QB and make them into tremendous passing QBs, much like Sumlin did and is doing.

I wouldn't put him above Sumlin AS OF NOW. But Sumlin didn't turn those QB's into great QB's. Keenum was really smart already. Piland didn't play well when Keenum and Cotton went down. Keenum is a special guy. It seems that Manziel is special too. Most of Keenum's coaches all say that having him out there is like having a coach on the field. I think Sumlin has benefited from inheriting great QB's more than he's brought them along. Of course he also coaches them very well, but I don't see him turning a crud QB into a stud. I think we got lucky and hired well again. I would hate to be in a situation where we have to give a dud 3 yrs to prove he's a dud. That's basically what I feel about our BBall coach. I hope he proves me wrong.
USF knows that pain. Holtz new era and now looks like everyone is off willie tag's bus.

You really have USF on the brain.....

CWT is going to be successful at USF. He just inherited a trainwreck from Lou's kid and had a huge gaping hole at QB. However, the defense is getting their swagger they had back despite playing a LOT of young players and you can see what CWT is trying to establish on offense. I like our future.

The only ppl off of "willie tag's bus" are UCF fans with an agenda. Most USF fans are excited about the future as are local high school coaches and recruits who see big things happening at USF.

USF is capable of being a different team now that they found a QB that's at least competent. Add him to the solid running game and good defense and USF is going to be tough the rest of the year.
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I meant to say the third QB in a row going to the pros.
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