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RE: Fall Recruiting Thread - Big East - 15 Top-100's So Far In 2014 Class...
well good for VCU. i like to see the little guys do well
IMO recruiting classes only account for 10% of a teams success. as long as you have a good coach (which VCU does) you are going places
last year kentucky had the #1 class and didnt even make the tourny. michigan had the 14th ranked class, made the ncg and was considered to have the best freshman class.
kentucky may have dominated the draft boards the last few years but a little known fact is that after UK syracuse is putting out the 2nd most amount of high draft picks and their average recruiting class ranking for that time span has been 22nd
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RE: Fall Recruiting Thread - Big East - 15 Top-100's So Far In 2014 Class...
Totally agree. This is the first time VCU has had any type of nationally recognized recruiting class, and we've done fairly well for ourselves the past several years considering we've been playing with 2 and 3-star kids, including a couple of top 20 NBA draft picks.
Rankings are good for message board fodder. Players play and coaches help them be the best they can be. There are a lot of kids not ranked that qualify as 'players'.
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RE: Fall Recruiting [Updated] - Big East - 15 Top-100's So Far In 2014 Class...
well good luck to you guys. you have done pretty well for yourselves although most of these guys wont have a real impact until 3-4 years from now. but it is fun to watch them grow and develop (one thing kentucky fans dont know sh!t about)
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Thanks appreciate that! I'd wish you luck, but you guys probably don't need it if I understand correctly that you're a Cuse fan.
Look forward to watching you guys in the ACC. I might have to make it up to JPJ this year to watch UVA vs. Cuse. That'll be a fantastic game if UVA is as good as they're supposed to be this year.
No kidding on the player development part. Luckily we're not depending on this class to come in and dominate right away. We've got a pretty decent team right now as it is. Hoping we can keep it going in the future with this class though.
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(10-02-2013 10:12 PM)VCUfan Wrote: Thanks appreciate that! I'd wish you luck, but you guys probably don't need it if I understand correctly that you're a Cuse fan.
Look forward to watching you guys in the ACC. I might have to make it up to JPJ this year to watch UVA vs. Cuse. That'll be a fantastic game if UVA is as good as they're supposed to be this year.
No kidding on the player development part. Luckily we're not depending on this class to come in and dominate right away. We've got a pretty decent team right now as it is. Hoping we can keep it going in the future with this class though.
yeah i am a cuse fan. i loved watching the SU team growing up because they were like a mid major in that they were very different from traditional teams. they play zone & (until recently) didnt try to recruit star players.
i loved watching siva (from LV) & triche grow and develop from freshman to senior year. stuff like that is what makes BB great and thats why i hate UK so bad and think that they are ruining the game. i see VCU and they are recruiting exactly like how SU used to recruit. which is why im pulling for you guys.
just dont get discouraged cuz you guys are not killing it like butler. what butler did was pretty amazing. they set the bar so high with back two back ncg appearances that that will be hard for any school to top. but for a school like VCU to consistently do well in the tourny speaks volumes to the strength of your program.
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RE: Fall Recruiting [Updated] - Big East - 15 Top-100's So Far In 2014 Class...
Oh I'm not discouraged that we haven't gone back-to-back to the national title games. That's not a standard I measure VCU by to be excited or discouraged.
Most programs in the country at any level would be discouraged if that was the expectation.
We did alright against Butler last year... but yea what they did in 2010 and 2011 was flat-out incredible.
(This post was last modified: 10-02-2013 10:32 PM by VCUfan.)
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RE: Fall Recruiting [Updated] - Big East - 15 Top-100's So Far In 2014 Class...
Updated original post for O'Mara and K Martin...
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RE: Fall Recruiting [Updated] - Big East - 15 Top-100's So Far In 2014 Class...
(09-30-2013 11:39 AM)billyjack Wrote: Recent Big East commits since the start of Fall around Sept 21st:
(will include updates):
- Creighton - Leon Gilmore III.
- Xavier - Makinde London.
- Providence - Ben Bentil, Scout #83.
- Creighton - Ronnie Harrell.
- Xavier - Sean O'Mara.
- Butler - Kelan Martin.
Up-to-date Scout Top-100 Big East Commits for the 2014 Class:
I'm counting 15 of the Top-100.
12 - Seton Hall - Isaiah Whitehead.
42 - Seton Hall - Angel Delgado.
47 - Georgetown - Isaac Copeland.
48 - Georgetown - Paul White.
63 - Providence - Paschal Chukwu.
67 - Villanova - Phil Booth.
72 - Xavier - Makinde London.
76 - Georgetown - L.J. Peak.
82 - Providence - Jalen Lindsey.
83 - Providence - Ben Bentil.
85 - Marquette - Sandy Cohen.
88 - Georgetown - Tre Campbell.
89 - Xavier - J.P. Macura.
92 - Villanova - Mikal Bridges.
93 - Marquette - Malek Harris.
This is a phenomenal success rate - especially when it is compared with other power conferences. Last I looked, the PAC-12 had 8 and the Big XII has 2! The other half of the old BE, the AAC has only 2.
At the other end of the spectrum, the ACC was leading with 18. But when you consider that the ACC has 15 members, that's a rate of only 1.2 per school vs 1.5 for the Big East.
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RE: Fall Recruiting [Updated] - Big East - 15 Top-100's So Far In 2014 Class...
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RE: Fall Recruiting [Updated] - Big East - 15 Top-100's So Far In 2014 Class...
Trevor Bluiett committed to Xavier on Nov 1st.
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RE: Fall Recruiting [Updated] - Big East - 15 Top-100's So Far In 2014 Class...
isn't signing day next week? Or is it the following week?
only 12 guys left to commit....
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RE: Fall Recruiting [Updated] - Big East - 15 Top-100's So Far In 2014 Class...
(11-01-2013 10:50 PM)billyjack Wrote: Trevor Bluiett committed to Xavier on Nov 1st.
Huge!
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RE: Fall Recruiting [Updated] - Big East - 15 Top-100's So Far In 2014 Class...
Ryan Fazekas committed to Providence over the weekend for 1015.
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