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RE: ULM has sent a request to the Sunbelt orafice
(11-03-2013 01:03 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 12:34 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 12:15 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Change my mind about what??? I think you guys are very silly with your naming issues. That will never change, I like to rattle y'alls cage as much as anyone. Pick a name and stick with it already. A brand will not be created overnight, it takes time to be recognized. Winning games helps the most, so continue to do that and eventually it will stick. In the mean time, be happy to be known at all.

After reading the article it looks like they are working out some type of compromise within the conference. Will be interesting to see what they come up with, but as they mentioned, the refs called ULL, UL-Lafayette. Wonder if that is it?

That's not a compromise, it is what they have always called us. Benson said the policy should be for each school to be called what they wanted. Talked about Ark State and App state as both being ASU and Ga State and Ga Southern both being GSU and needing to resolve that. ULM has stated they were branding as ULM. UL is branding as Louisiana. That should be the compromise.

We prefer A-State (despite my insistence ArkSt is better branding because it lends itself better to use as a hashtag).

Guess we need to notify the league. A-State not ASU.
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(11-03-2013 09:52 AM)SOT1977 Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 08:52 AM)zeebart21 Wrote:  They want to be referred to as Louisiana and UL!

Alright!! Lets play... be careful, cause it would be easy for the S La delegation, who has supported you guys in all your endeavors recently, to shut down all support for a school already on life support.

This is going to be fun to watch!!!

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Wow, I'd like to see that request. Please produce it. Unless you've gone back in time to 2003-2004 when we had Louisiana on our helmets.

BTW, we never count on the south Louisiana delegation for any support at any time. That's always been a waste of time.

You need to lay off the hard stuff before 10 am...

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(11-03-2013 10:04 AM)Usajags Wrote:  I think ULaLa and ULM need a page all to themselves to continue arguing about their stupid name choices. Get over yourselves Lafayette, you're just not that important to anyone but yourselves.

I hope you do go to CUSA so I can stop passing pages of "I'm butt hurt cause you won't call me what I want to be called" threads.03-weeping

Put me on ignore, stud.

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(11-03-2013 01:03 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 12:34 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 12:15 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Change my mind about what??? I think you guys are very silly with your naming issues. That will never change, I like to rattle y'alls cage as much as anyone. Pick a name and stick with it already. A brand will not be created overnight, it takes time to be recognized. Winning games helps the most, so continue to do that and eventually it will stick. In the mean time, be happy to be known at all.

After reading the article it looks like they are working out some type of compromise within the conference. Will be interesting to see what they come up with, but as they mentioned, the refs called ULL, UL-Lafayette. Wonder if that is it?

That's not a compromise, it is what they have always called us. Benson said the policy should be for each school to be called what they wanted. Talked about Ark State and App state as both being ASU and Ga State and Ga Southern both being GSU and needing to resolve that. ULM has stated they were branding as ULM. UL is branding as Louisiana. That should be the compromise.

That's no compromise either.
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Many Cajun supporters prefer for the program to be referred to as Louisiana, not Louisiana-Lafayette, and as UL, not ULL. The school is currently branding its athletic teams as Louisiana Ragin’ Cajuns, with shortened versions including “Louisiana” and “Cajuns” both acceptable to them.

Those wishes have been met with resistance from fellow Sun Belt-member UL Monroe, which has long preferred that the Lafayette designator remain attached for its in-state rival.


“I will refer to all of our universities how they instruct me to refer to them,” Benson said.

“From this point forward, I want to be consistent – and that will, more than likely, not satisfy everyone regardless,” he added. “I’ve been doing this long enough to know that there are situations that I am not able to satisfy all the constituencies.”


So if I understand this, ULM wants to be called what they want to be called but don't want the Cajuns to be called the Louisiana Ragin Cajuns etc?

Lemme think about that one. Okay, I've thought about it.05-nono

Based on his comments, I don't think ULM will be happy with the final outcome.
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(11-03-2013 10:09 AM)slappycajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 10:05 AM)SOT1977 Wrote:  So what? They're certainly not supporting us now and certainly not since then.

Please explain what else we can do to support you? We are going through the same buget cuts as you are. Yet, I cannot for the life of me understand why the state has 3 publicly funded 4 year universities within 20 miles of each other all playing Division 1 sports.

What do you want us to do, hold your hands?

It's not all bad to have major universities close. And in reality, LSU is recruiting nationally. So really the only ones it hurts are the schools in the Southland Conference. In Texas, you got UTSA, TxSt, and UT all within 50 miles of each other, Rice and Houston are practically on top of each other, and TCU, SMU, and North Texas are all with 30 miles. I don't think location factors as much as money, scholarships, facilities, and winning does.
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(11-03-2013 02:00 PM)bobcatbuc Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 10:09 AM)slappycajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 10:05 AM)SOT1977 Wrote:  So what? They're certainly not supporting us now and certainly not since then.

Please explain what else we can do to support you? We are going through the same buget cuts as you are. Yet, I cannot for the life of me understand why the state has 3 publicly funded 4 year universities within 20 miles of each other all playing Division 1 sports.

What do you want us to do, hold your hands?

It's not all bad to have major universities close. And in reality, LSU is recruiting nationally. So really the only ones it hurts are the schools in the Southland Conference. In Texas, you got UTSA, TxSt, and UT all within 50 miles of each other, Rice and Houston are practically on top of each other, and TCU, SMU, and North Texas are all with 30 miles. I don't think location factors as much as money, scholarships, facilities, and winning does.

You're talking about multiple D1 schools in population dense areas of Texas. We're talking about 3 schools in the least populated area of Louisiana. I don't have as much of a problem with ULM being a four year school with D1 athletics as much as I have an issue with Grambling being one.
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(11-03-2013 05:00 PM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 02:00 PM)bobcatbuc Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 10:09 AM)slappycajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 10:05 AM)SOT1977 Wrote:  So what? They're certainly not supporting us now and certainly not since then.

Please explain what else we can do to support you? We are going through the same buget cuts as you are. Yet, I cannot for the life of me understand why the state has 3 publicly funded 4 year universities within 20 miles of each other all playing Division 1 sports.

What do you want us to do, hold your hands?

It's not all bad to have major universities close. And in reality, LSU is recruiting nationally. So really the only ones it hurts are the schools in the Southland Conference. In Texas, you got UTSA, TxSt, and UT all within 50 miles of each other, Rice and Houston are practically on top of each other, and TCU, SMU, and North Texas are all with 30 miles. I don't think location factors as much as money, scholarships, facilities, and winning does.

You're talking about multiple D1 schools in population dense areas of Texas. We're talking about 3 schools in the least populated area of Louisiana. I don't have as much of a problem with ULM being a four year school with D1 athletics as much as I have an issue with Grambling being one.
Good luck with finding a way to deal with the grambling fiasco.
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(11-03-2013 12:32 PM)gostAte870 Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 12:15 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Change my mind about what??? I think you guys are very silly with your naming issues. That will never change, I like to rattle y'alls cage as much as anyone. Pick a name and stick with it already. A brand will not be created overnight, it takes time to be recognized. Winning games helps the most, so continue to do that and eventually it will stick. In the mean time, be happy to be known at all.

Yeah, you Louisiana folks make too big a deal out of this naming issue. UCLA, USC, and a host of other schools aren't trying to change their names in an attempt to increase the value of their brand. Keep winning, and it solves all problems. I've never heard anyone refer to Northern Illinois as a "directional school", because they win. I'll continue to refer to the university in Lafayette as UL and Louisiana out of respect, but it really doesn't make a difference.

Maybe we do, but look at it another way. I know this May be stretching it, but suppose everyone started calling your school the University of Arkansas State, UAS, or just called you U Ass for short. I think you would take immediate exception to that and fight to correct it. The same applies to ULaLa and other names that we feel are derogatory. Someone in another post called Troy TU and was immediately corrected because that's not what they want to be called. Now we have a second ASU joining the conference, so let's see how schools react. The same with the two GSUs and I know there is contention between the two. ULM states that they are branded as ULM. That is a great acronym and they appear OK with that. As soon as we brand ourselves as Louisiana, they forget about their branding and want to control ours. Build your brand and be your best. Don't try to take down another school to elevate yourself. It doesn't work. Just stick with our brands and this all ends.
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(11-03-2013 10:22 AM)LouisianaHawkFan Wrote:  Leave it is a cajun to be wrong. ULM was FBS years before joining the Sun Belt in football.

But NLU was not in the Sun Belt and it was our university that voted for your membership over the objections of Louisiana Tech. That is fact and past of the larger pitcure.
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(11-03-2013 01:32 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 01:03 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 12:34 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 12:15 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Change my mind about what??? I think you guys are very silly with your naming issues. That will never change, I like to rattle y'alls cage as much as anyone. Pick a name and stick with it already. A brand will not be created overnight, it takes time to be recognized. Winning games helps the most, so continue to do that and eventually it will stick. In the mean time, be happy to be known at all.

After reading the article it looks like they are working out some type of compromise within the conference. Will be interesting to see what they come up with, but as they mentioned, the refs called ULL, UL-Lafayette. Wonder if that is it?

That's not a compromise, it is what they have always called us. Benson said the policy should be for each school to be called what they wanted. Talked about Ark State and App state as both being ASU and Ga State and Ga Southern both being GSU and needing to resolve that. ULM has stated they were branding as ULM. UL is branding as Louisiana. That should be the compromise.

That's no compromise either.

The compromise is to call you Louisiana-Monroe and us Louisiana-Lafayette. Neither get what they want and we move on. You don't get refered to as ULM either.
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(11-03-2013 05:11 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 01:32 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 01:03 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 12:34 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 12:15 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Change my mind about what??? I think you guys are very silly with your naming issues. That will never change, I like to rattle y'alls cage as much as anyone. Pick a name and stick with it already. A brand will not be created overnight, it takes time to be recognized. Winning games helps the most, so continue to do that and eventually it will stick. In the mean time, be happy to be known at all.

After reading the article it looks like they are working out some type of compromise within the conference. Will be interesting to see what they come up with, but as they mentioned, the refs called ULL, UL-Lafayette. Wonder if that is it?

That's not a compromise, it is what they have always called us. Benson said the policy should be for each school to be called what they wanted. Talked about Ark State and App state as both being ASU and Ga State and Ga Southern both being GSU and needing to resolve that. ULM has stated they were branding as ULM. UL is branding as Louisiana. That should be the compromise.

That's no compromise either.

The compromise is to call you Louisiana-Monroe and us Louisiana-Lafayette. Neither get what they want and we move on. You don't get refered to as ULM either.

That wouldn't bother us.
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But NLU was not in the Sun Belt and it was our university that voted for your membership over the objections of Louisiana Tech. That is fact and past of the larger pitcure.

This I did not know and is significant if it's true.
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(11-03-2013 05:17 PM)Warsaw landing Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 05:11 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 01:32 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 01:03 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 12:34 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  After reading the article it looks like they are working out some type of compromise within the conference. Will be interesting to see what they come up with, but as they mentioned, the refs called ULL, UL-Lafayette. Wonder if that is it?

That's not a compromise, it is what they have always called us. Benson said the policy should be for each school to be called what they wanted. Talked about Ark State and App state as both being ASU and Ga State and Ga Southern both being GSU and needing to resolve that. ULM has stated they were branding as ULM. UL is branding as Louisiana. That should be the compromise.

That's no compromise either.

The compromise is to call you Louisiana-Monroe and us Louisiana-Lafayette. Neither get what they want and we move on. You don't get refered to as ULM either.

That wouldn't bother us.

You see, that's the issue. Rather than having a brand, ULM, that would better the school and give you a clear identity, you would rather be stuck with a hyphenated name just so we don't enhance our identity. Why not think in terms of improving yourselves rather than keeping another university down? How does that help ULM?
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(11-03-2013 01:05 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 01:03 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 12:34 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 12:15 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Change my mind about what??? I think you guys are very silly with your naming issues. That will never change, I like to rattle y'alls cage as much as anyone. Pick a name and stick with it already. A brand will not be created overnight, it takes time to be recognized. Winning games helps the most, so continue to do that and eventually it will stick. In the mean time, be happy to be known at all.

After reading the article it looks like they are working out some type of compromise within the conference. Will be interesting to see what they come up with, but as they mentioned, the refs called ULL, UL-Lafayette. Wonder if that is it?

That's not a compromise, it is what they have always called us. Benson said the policy should be for each school to be called what they wanted. Talked about Ark State and App state as both being ASU and Ga State and Ga Southern both being GSU and needing to resolve that. ULM has stated they were branding as ULM. UL is branding as Louisiana. That should be the compromise.

We prefer A-State (despite my insistence ArkSt is better branding because it lends itself better to use as a hashtag).

Guess we need to notify the league. A-State not ASU.

Appalachian State can have the ASU name. See how easy that was Louisiana folks? We're the one and only A-State though. That's why we removed that silly ASU crap off of everything related to athletics.
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(11-03-2013 06:16 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 05:17 PM)Warsaw landing Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 05:11 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 01:32 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 01:03 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  That's not a compromise, it is what they have always called us. Benson said the policy should be for each school to be called what they wanted. Talked about Ark State and App state as both being ASU and Ga State and Ga Southern both being GSU and needing to resolve that. ULM has stated they were branding as ULM. UL is branding as Louisiana. That should be the compromise.

That's no compromise either.

The compromise is to call you Louisiana-Monroe and us Louisiana-Lafayette. Neither get what they want and we move on. You don't get refered to as ULM either.

That wouldn't bother us.

You see, that's the issue. Rather than having a brand, ULM, that would better the school and give you a clear identity, you would rather be stuck with a hyphenated name just so we don't enhance our identity. Why not think in terms of improving yourselves rather than keeping another university down? How does that help ULM?

Its about winning, not what we are called. Most already call us louisiana monore and I've always said ULM, but not going to be obnoxious to Someone Else just because they don't call us that. As long as we win it don't matter.
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(11-03-2013 06:30 PM)gostAte870 Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 01:05 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 01:03 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 12:34 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 12:15 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Change my mind about what??? I think you guys are very silly with your naming issues. That will never change, I like to rattle y'alls cage as much as anyone. Pick a name and stick with it already. A brand will not be created overnight, it takes time to be recognized. Winning games helps the most, so continue to do that and eventually it will stick. In the mean time, be happy to be known at all.

After reading the article it looks like they are working out some type of compromise within the conference. Will be interesting to see what they come up with, but as they mentioned, the refs called ULL, UL-Lafayette. Wonder if that is it?

That's not a compromise, it is what they have always called us. Benson said the policy should be for each school to be called what they wanted. Talked about Ark State and App state as both being ASU and Ga State and Ga Southern both being GSU and needing to resolve that. ULM has stated they were branding as ULM. UL is branding as Louisiana. That should be the compromise.

We prefer A-State (despite my insistence ArkSt is better branding because it lends itself better to use as a hashtag).

Guess we need to notify the league. A-State not ASU.

Appalachian State can have the ASU name. See how easy that was Louisiana folks? We're the one and only A-State though. That's why we removed that silly ASU crap off of everything related to athletics.

Actually, we are calling ourselves App State, so I guess we ave no ASUs in the Sun Belt.
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(11-03-2013 07:49 PM)Warsaw landing Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 06:16 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 05:17 PM)Warsaw landing Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 05:11 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 01:32 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  That's no compromise either.

The compromise is to call you Louisiana-Monroe and us Louisiana-Lafayette. Neither get what they want and we move on. You don't get refered to as ULM either.

That wouldn't bother us.

You see, that's the issue. Rather than having a brand, ULM, that would better the school and give you a clear identity, you would rather be stuck with a hyphenated name just so we don't enhance our identity. Why not think in terms of improving yourselves rather than keeping another university down? How does that help ULM?

Its about winning, not what we are called. Most already call us louisiana monore and I've always said ULM, but not going to be obnoxious to Someone Else just because they don't call us that. As long as we win it don't matter.

Good. I honor your school's request to be known as ULM. As long as you win and continue to make a name for yourselves, why does it matter what we call ourselves?
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(11-03-2013 06:30 PM)gostAte870 Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 01:05 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 01:03 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 12:34 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 12:15 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Change my mind about what??? I think you guys are very silly with your naming issues. That will never change, I like to rattle y'alls cage as much as anyone. Pick a name and stick with it already. A brand will not be created overnight, it takes time to be recognized. Winning games helps the most, so continue to do that and eventually it will stick. In the mean time, be happy to be known at all.

After reading the article it looks like they are working out some type of compromise within the conference. Will be interesting to see what they come up with, but as they mentioned, the refs called ULL, UL-Lafayette. Wonder if that is it?

That's not a compromise, it is what they have always called us. Benson said the policy should be for each school to be called what they wanted. Talked about Ark State and App state as both being ASU and Ga State and Ga Southern both being GSU and needing to resolve that. ULM has stated they were branding as ULM. UL is branding as Louisiana. That should be the compromise.

We prefer A-State (despite my insistence ArkSt is better branding because it lends itself better to use as a hashtag).

Guess we need to notify the league. A-State not ASU.

Appalachian State can have the ASU name. See how easy that was Louisiana folks? We're the one and only A-State though. That's why we removed that silly ASU crap off of everything related to athletics.

This also easy. ULM can have the ULM name. Our name is Louisiana. See how easy that was.
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(11-03-2013 09:25 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 06:30 PM)gostAte870 Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 01:05 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 01:03 PM)HoustonCajun Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 12:34 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  After reading the article it looks like they are working out some type of compromise within the conference. Will be interesting to see what they come up with, but as they mentioned, the refs called ULL, UL-Lafayette. Wonder if that is it?

That's not a compromise, it is what they have always called us. Benson said the policy should be for each school to be called what they wanted. Talked about Ark State and App state as both being ASU and Ga State and Ga Southern both being GSU and needing to resolve that. ULM has stated they were branding as ULM. UL is branding as Louisiana. That should be the compromise.

We prefer A-State (despite my insistence ArkSt is better branding because it lends itself better to use as a hashtag).

Guess we need to notify the league. A-State not ASU.

Appalachian State can have the ASU name. See how easy that was Louisiana folks? We're the one and only A-State though. That's why we removed that silly ASU crap off of everything related to athletics.

This also easy. ULM can have the ULM name. Our name is Louisiana. See how easy that was.
It could be, but the way y'all go about it is why their is so much resistance. If only it was just about athletics as you all claim.
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