(11-02-2013 11:28 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 11:12 PM)Tuffguy21 Wrote:  I would agree with this, I think ULM has to be a no brainer for a bowl right now because of the fanbase size and market size. Both end up working negatively against them when pitching themselves to a bowl game. I don't think Tx State can sell Cinderella better than they can sell Market. They can claim to have penetration into 2 top 50 markets. stAte would sell tickets, Tx State would provide more TV's. This is all based on the idea that neither USA or Troy would get to 6, I think if either of them do, this is a moot point.

So pretty much, if the Cajuns get bowl eligible, they are all but guaranteed the NOLA bowl. If Troy or USA become bowl eligible, they are all but guaranteed the Go Daddy bowl slot.

Ultimately then, for NMSU, Idaho, ULM, stAte, Georgia Southern, App State, or Georgia State, our only shot at making a bowl realistically is to win the conference or pray that the above teams don't become bowl eligible?

Winning the league guarantees a bowl. Go off on an 8-4 type season and you should be able to get a bowl as long as UL, USA, and Troy don't all have equal or better seasons.

We're still supposed to have a backup signed for next year, and we'll have rotations into both Miami and the Bahamas. That will have to do for now.

(11-02-2013 11:28 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 11:12 PM)Tuffguy21 Wrote:  I would agree with this, I think ULM has to be a no brainer for a bowl right now because of the fanbase size and market size. Both end up working negatively against them when pitching themselves to a bowl game. I don't think Tx State can sell Cinderella better than they can sell Market. They can claim to have penetration into 2 top 50 markets. stAte would sell tickets, Tx State would provide more TV's. This is all based on the idea that neither USA or Troy would get to 6, I think if either of them do, this is a moot point.

So pretty much, if the Cajuns get bowl eligible, they are all but guaranteed the NOLA bowl. If Troy or USA become bowl eligible, they are all but guaranteed the Go Daddy bowl slot.

Ultimately then, for NMSU, Idaho, ULM, stAte, Georgia Southern, App State, or Georgia State, our only shot at making a bowl realistically is to win the conference or pray that the above teams don't become bowl eligible?

Pretty much. The phone would probably ring for the Cajuns if they finished 6-6. Two record crowds in a row in New Orleans means something to the bowl officials.

(11-02-2013 11:29 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 11:24 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Last year's attendance totals:

Independence Bowl: 41,853
GoDaddy Bowl: 37,913
Little Caesar's: 23,310
New Orleans Bowl: 48,828

Paid attendance and actual attendance are two different matters. No one outside of UL-Monroe fans would argue there were 41,000 in attendance at the Indy Bowl.

No, real attendance was closer to 23K

20K ULM
1K Ohio
2K Neutral

The visitor side (ULM) was full until the game was over (half time).

(11-02-2013 11:32 PM)LouisianaHawkFan Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 11:29 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 11:24 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Last year's attendance totals:

Independence Bowl: 41,853
GoDaddy Bowl: 37,913
Little Caesar's: 23,310
New Orleans Bowl: 48,828

Paid attendance and actual attendance are two different matters. No one outside of UL-Monroe fans would argue there were 41,000 in attendance at the Indy Bowl.

No, real attendance was closer to 23K

20K ULM
1K Ohio
2K Neutral

The visitor side (ULM) was full until the game was over (half time).

I didn't attend the New Orleans Bowl last year but I'm betting ECU felt like there were at least 48K there, most of them Cajun fans.

(11-02-2013 11:28 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 11:12 PM)Tuffguy21 Wrote:  I would agree with this, I think ULM has to be a no brainer for a bowl right now because of the fanbase size and market size. Both end up working negatively against them when pitching themselves to a bowl game. I don't think Tx State can sell Cinderella better than they can sell Market. They can claim to have penetration into 2 top 50 markets. stAte would sell tickets, Tx State would provide more TV's. This is all based on the idea that neither USA or Troy would get to 6, I think if either of them do, this is a moot point.

So pretty much, if the Cajuns get bowl eligible, they are all but guaranteed the NOLA bowl. If Troy or USA become bowl eligible, they are all but guaranteed the Go Daddy bowl slot.

Ultimately then, for NMSU, Idaho, ULM, stAte, Georgia Southern, App State, or Georgia State, our only shot at making a bowl realistically is to win the conference or pray that the above teams don't become bowl eligible?

I'll say, as long as one of Louisiana, Troy, or USA win the conference, and the other 2 are eligible, those will be the targets for the 2 current bowls. That changes next year with a 3rd bowl game, then eventually a rotating basis with the Bermuda bowl, and another bowl that I cant remember.

(11-02-2013 11:52 PM)Tuffguy21 Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 11:28 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 11:12 PM)Tuffguy21 Wrote:  I would agree with this, I think ULM has to be a no brainer for a bowl right now because of the fanbase size and market size. Both end up working negatively against them when pitching themselves to a bowl game. I don't think Tx State can sell Cinderella better than they can sell Market. They can claim to have penetration into 2 top 50 markets. stAte would sell tickets, Tx State would provide more TV's. This is all based on the idea that neither USA or Troy would get to 6, I think if either of them do, this is a moot point.

So pretty much, if the Cajuns get bowl eligible, they are all but guaranteed the NOLA bowl. If Troy or USA become bowl eligible, they are all but guaranteed the Go Daddy bowl slot.

Ultimately then, for NMSU, Idaho, ULM, stAte, Georgia Southern, App State, or Georgia State, our only shot at making a bowl realistically is to win the conference or pray that the above teams don't become bowl eligible?

I'll say, as long as one of Louisiana, Troy, or USA win the conference, and the other 2 are eligible, those will be the targets for the 2 current bowls. That changes next year with a 3rd bowl game, then eventually a rotating basis with the Bermuda bowl, and another bowl that I cant remember.

Next year there will be 3 guaranteed slots, plus 4 new bowls, plus 4 teams not participating in existing bowls due to the Natl Championship Series. Next year, every bowl eligible team will have an invite.

(11-02-2013 11:23 PM)LouisianaHawkFan Wrote:  Last time I checked ULM controls their own destiny for a conference championship and a guaranteed slot in one of the (2) bowl tie ins for the Sun Belt.

All focus is 1-0 next week as Superman plays his last game at Malone against the other former Indians.

Absolutely. I was saying this as no disrespect to the ULM football team, they could win the conference, and they do still control their destiny. This is only assuming what the OP mentioned concerning teams final record. Tx State would prlly be something like a 7-5. I do think ULM has the hardest sell in the conference from combo of fan base and market to potential bowl games.

(11-02-2013 11:23 PM)LouisianaHawkFan Wrote:  Last time I checked ULM controls their own destiny for a conference championship and a guaranteed slot in one of the (2) bowl tie ins for the Sun Belt.

All focus is 1-0 next week as Superman plays his last game at Malone against the other former Indians.

We can agree. He is Superman. Unfortunately he is surrounded by Lois Lane at all the other positions.


Z

(11-02-2013 11:32 PM)LouisianaHawkFan Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 11:29 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 11:24 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Last year's attendance totals:

Independence Bowl: 41,853
GoDaddy Bowl: 37,913
Little Caesar's: 23,310
New Orleans Bowl: 48,828

Paid attendance and actual attendance are two different matters. No one outside of UL-Monroe fans would argue there were 41,000 in attendance at the Indy Bowl.

No, real attendance was closer to 23K

20K ULM
1K Ohio
2K Neutral

The visitor side (ULM) was full until the game was over (half time).

What a shame LaTech had their heads up their butts and turned down that bowl because they believed a better offer was forthcoming. That would have been a great draw for that bowl and probably a fun game to watch as well.

Oh well, fear and pride make folks do strange things.

(11-02-2013 11:01 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 10:58 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 10:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 10:38 PM)bokobobcat1919 Wrote:  no chance of selling a "Cinderella" bobcat team?

Depends on how you finish. I think you guys could be sold over a ULM team that does not travel well, but ASU has the advantage of selling 10K tickets to Mobile the last two seasons. You're going to want to finish ahead of both teams record wise to lock it up.

Cinderella doesn't sell tickets.

Dude, stop piling on ULM!!!

Brute!

Z

ULM didn't exactly put up an impressive show in the I-Bowl last year, and they can be in Shreveport in about an hour or so drive time. Convincing the Go Daddy bowl that they could make a 4 hour trip will not be easy.

It's always best to know what your talking about before you speak. We had a great turn out in terrible weather (rain, 20 mph winds and 39 degrees). They just didn't stay after half time. I stayed the entire gsme and it took me till the next morning to thaw out. We filled up half the stadium and may 15% of the OHiO side and they brought their band and parentsof players.

(11-02-2013 11:32 PM)LouisianaHawkFan Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 11:29 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 11:24 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Last year's attendance totals:

Independence Bowl: 41,853
GoDaddy Bowl: 37,913
Little Caesar's: 23,310
New Orleans Bowl: 48,828

Paid attendance and actual attendance are two different matters. No one outside of UL-Monroe fans would argue there were 41,000 in attendance at the Indy Bowl.

No, real attendance was closer to 23K

20K ULM
1K Ohio
2K Neutral

The visitor side (ULM) was full until the game was over (half time).

Don't think if you added OHio's football team and coaches in with the fans and band it still wouldn't reach 1k.

(11-03-2013 09:35 AM)Warsaw landing Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 11:32 PM)LouisianaHawkFan Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 11:29 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 11:24 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Last year's attendance totals:

Independence Bowl: 41,853
GoDaddy Bowl: 37,913
Little Caesar's: 23,310
New Orleans Bowl: 48,828

Paid attendance and actual attendance are two different matters. No one outside of UL-Monroe fans would argue there were 41,000 in attendance at the Indy Bowl.

No, real attendance was closer to 23K

20K ULM
1K Ohio
2K Neutral

The visitor side (ULM) was full until the game was over (half time).

Don't think if you added the football team and coaches in with the fans and band it still wouldn't reach 1k.

I have no doubt that weather played a huge role in the attendance. I was at the ULM band's practice that morning just four hours before game time with the temperature at 29 degrees. When the clouds moved in later and the temps were just above freezing with that wind, I would imagine it was easier for a lot of the local Shreveport/Bossier folks to stay home and watch it on TV (it was not blacked out). Those regular ticket buyers would say "I'll show up next year when/if it's warmer."

The ULM fans were not going to miss our first bowl game...they would want to say they were there. And they showed up. That east side of the stadium was jam packed.

(11-02-2013 10:19 PM)TXSTRiverBobcat Wrote:  This thread should be called bowl ELIGIBLE possibilities. Either that or start talking about what it's going to take for certain teams to actually make a bowl game since it looks like only 2 Sun Belt teams will actually go this year. 3 max.

Don't be so sure.
AAC 5.5 tie ins for 10 teams (they split the Liberty with C-USA), 4 bowl eligible (BE) teams, 1 with 5 wins, 2 with 6 losses, 2 not BE.

ACC 8 tie ins for 14 teams, six teams BE, one team at five wins, three with five losses, 1 not BE

B10 8 tie ins for 14 teams, six teams BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 2 not BE

B12 7 tie ins for 10 teams, 5 BE, 2 with six losses, 1 not BE

C-USA 5.5 tie ins for 14 teams, 4 BE, two with 5 wins, 3 with 6 losses, 3 not BE

Indy 3 tie ins for Army 3-6, BYU 6-2, Navy 4-4

MAC 3 ties in for 13 teams, 5 BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 6 not BE

MWC 7 ties in for 12 teams, 2 teams BE, 3 with five wins, 2 with 6 losses, 2 not BE

P12 - 7 tie ins for 12 teams, six teams BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 1 team not BE.

SEC 10 tie ins for 14 teams, 6 BE, 2 with 5 wins, two with 6 losses.

SBC 2 tie ins for 8 teams, 2 BE, 3 with 5 wins, 1 not BE.

There are four at-larges in the BCS, which early on look to go to the SEC, P12, ACC and B12. Fresno State and Northern Illinois going undefeated would ensure that one of them would be in.

The AAC may get just enough teams, the ACC will almost assuredly not, the B10 could but isn't guaranteed, C-USA may be, though the slot they share with the AAC may go unfilled by either, the B10 will at best meet their slots, but could leave one short, the B12 is border line and if they send two teams to BCS's then certainly not,Army certainly won't go bowling and Navy may not, Notre Dame will certainly fill someone's at-large as a BCS looks out of the question, MAC will fill and be the SBC's main competition for at-large slots, MWC doesn't look like it will fill its slots even if Fresno doesn't go to a BCS, the P12 will and if Oregon goes to the NC, then they will not likely have at-larges and if the SEC sends a team to the NC as well as the sugar, their 14 teams can't fill 11 slots, so one or two will open there.

My bet is that C-USA won't send any more than their allotment, the MWC, B10, B12 and SEC won't fill their commitments while only the MAC will have any meaningful surplus for the SBC to compete with. Being in the footprint where most bowls are, the SBC will have the better options for bowl committees. Also, if I am not mistaken, the SBC has a secondary tie in with Little Ceasars and the B10 looks like it won't fill it.

I'd say bare minimum, the SBC gets three and I could see four again.

(11-03-2013 10:23 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 10:19 PM)TXSTRiverBobcat Wrote:  This thread should be called bowl ELIGIBLE possibilities. Either that or start talking about what it's going to take for certain teams to actually make a bowl game since it looks like only 2 Sun Belt teams will actually go this year. 3 max.

Don't be so sure.
AAC 5.5 tie ins for 10 teams (they split the Liberty with C-USA), 4 bowl eligible (BE) teams, 1 with 5 wins, 2 with 6 losses, 2 not BE.

ACC 8 tie ins for 14 teams, six teams BE, one team at five wins, three with five losses, 1 not BE

B10 8 tie ins for 14 teams, six teams BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 2 not BE

B12 7 tie ins for 10 teams, 5 BE, 2 with six losses, 1 not BE

C-USA 5.5 tie ins for 14 teams, 4 BE, two with 5 wins, 3 with 6 losses, 3 not BE

Indy 3 tie ins for Army 3-6, BYU 6-2, Navy 4-4

MAC 3 ties in for 13 teams, 5 BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 6 not BE

MWC 7 ties in for 12 teams, 2 teams BE, 3 with five wins, 2 with 6 losses, 2 not BE

P12 - 7 tie ins for 12 teams, six teams BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 1 team not BE.

SEC 10 tie ins for 14 teams, 6 BE, 2 with 5 wins, two with 6 losses.

SBC 2 tie ins for 8 teams, 2 BE, 3 with 5 wins, 1 not BE.

There are four at-larges in the BCS, which early on look to go to the SEC, P12, ACC and B12. Fresno State and Northern Illinois going undefeated would ensure that one of them would be in.

The AAC may get just enough teams, the ACC will almost assuredly not, the B10 could but isn't guaranteed, C-USA may be, though the slot they share with the AAC may go unfilled by either, the B10 will at best meet their slots, but could leave one short, the B12 is border line and if they send two teams to BCS's then certainly not,Army certainly won't go bowling and Navy may not, Notre Dame will certainly fill someone's at-large as a BCS looks out of the question, MAC will fill and be the SBC's main competition for at-large slots, MWC doesn't look like it will fill its slots even if Fresno doesn't go to a BCS, the P12 will and if Oregon goes to the NC, then they will not likely have at-larges and if the SEC sends a team to the NC as well as the sugar, their 14 teams can't fill 11 slots, so one or two will open there.

My bet is that C-USA won't send any more than their allotment, the MWC, B10, B12 and SEC won't fill their commitments while only the MAC will have any meaningful surplus for the SBC to compete with. Being in the footprint where most bowls are, the SBC will have the better options for bowl committees. Also, if I am not mistaken, the SBC has a secondary tie in with Little Ceasars and the B10 looks like it won't fill it.

I'd say bare minimum, the SBC gets three and I could see four again.

Excellent analysis UTA. Thanks! Still a lot of football to be played but your 'research' should give schools like TxState some hope. Getting 3 bowls slots would be wonderful, 4 divine. Go Belt!!!

(11-03-2013 10:23 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 10:19 PM)TXSTRiverBobcat Wrote:  This thread should be called bowl ELIGIBLE possibilities. Either that or start talking about what it's going to take for certain teams to actually make a bowl game since it looks like only 2 Sun Belt teams will actually go this year. 3 max.

Don't be so sure.
AAC 5.5 tie ins for 10 teams (they split the Liberty with C-USA), 4 bowl eligible (BE) teams, 1 with 5 wins, 2 with 6 losses, 2 not BE.

ACC 8 tie ins for 14 teams, six teams BE, one team at five wins, three with five losses, 1 not BE

B10 8 tie ins for 14 teams, six teams BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 2 not BE

B12 7 tie ins for 10 teams, 5 BE, 2 with six losses, 1 not BE

C-USA 5.5 tie ins for 14 teams, 4 BE, two with 5 wins, 3 with 6 losses, 3 not BE

Indy 3 tie ins for Army 3-6, BYU 6-2, Navy 4-4

MAC 3 ties in for 13 teams, 5 BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 6 not BE

MWC 7 ties in for 12 teams, 2 teams BE, 3 with five wins, 2 with 6 losses, 2 not BE

P12 - 7 tie ins for 12 teams, six teams BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 1 team not BE.

SEC 10 tie ins for 14 teams, 6 BE, 2 with 5 wins, two with 6 losses.

SBC 2 tie ins for 8 teams, 2 BE, 3 with 5 wins, 1 not BE.

There are four at-larges in the BCS, which early on look to go to the SEC, P12, ACC and B12. Fresno State and Northern Illinois going undefeated would ensure that one of them would be in.

The AAC may get just enough teams, the ACC will almost assuredly not, the B10 could but isn't guaranteed, C-USA may be, though the slot they share with the AAC may go unfilled by either, the B10 will at best meet their slots, but could leave one short, the B12 is border line and if they send two teams to BCS's then certainly not,Army certainly won't go bowling and Navy may not, Notre Dame will certainly fill someone's at-large as a BCS looks out of the question, MAC will fill and be the SBC's main competition for at-large slots, MWC doesn't look like it will fill its slots even if Fresno doesn't go to a BCS, the P12 will and if Oregon goes to the NC, then they will not likely have at-larges and if the SEC sends a team to the NC as well as the sugar, their 14 teams can't fill 11 slots, so one or two will open there.

My bet is that C-USA won't send any more than their allotment, the MWC, B10, B12 and SEC won't fill their commitments while only the MAC will have any meaningful surplus for the SBC to compete with. Being in the footprint where most bowls are, the SBC will have the better options for bowl committees. Also, if I am not mistaken, the SBC has a secondary tie in with Little Ceasars and the B10 looks like it won't fill it.

I'd say bare minimum, the SBC gets three and I could see four again.

great post. i was thinking along the same line, but to lazy to type it all. so yes i say at very least, 3 teams go bowling. 4 teams have a good chance. but still a lot of football to play before things become clear.

^Exactly. Things are clearer now than last week and so on, but there are a lot of 4-4 teams in these conferences that could go either way. I didn't care enough to look at the schedule of those teams and just assumed that they would fall equally along the bell curve of BE and non-BE teams.

The NCAA better get the contingency plan ready for the next few years with all the new bowl games and playoff games coming online next year. There will be slots available after all the BE teams are selected.

(11-03-2013 11:06 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  ^Exactly. Things are clearer now than last week and so on, but there are a lot of 4-4 teams in these conferences that could go either way. I didn't care enough to look at the schedule of those teams and just assumed that they would fall equally along the bell curve of BE and non-BE teams.

The NCAA better get the contingency plan ready for the next few years with all the new bowl games and playoff games coming online next year. There will be slots available after all the BE teams are selected.

College football is obviously big business. And with more bowl opportunities coming on-line each year, I suspect we'll see more universities deciding to make the effort to become D1 in football. Obviously some will fare better than others, but at least there should be some new blood entering the market for conference like C-USA and the Belt.

(11-03-2013 10:45 AM)balanced_view Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 10:23 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 10:19 PM)TXSTRiverBobcat Wrote:  This thread should be called bowl ELIGIBLE possibilities. Either that or start talking about what it's going to take for certain teams to actually make a bowl game since it looks like only 2 Sun Belt teams will actually go this year. 3 max.

Don't be so sure.
AAC 5.5 tie ins for 10 teams (they split the Liberty with C-USA), 4 bowl eligible (BE) teams, 1 with 5 wins, 2 with 6 losses, 2 not BE.

ACC 8 tie ins for 14 teams, six teams BE, one team at five wins, three with five losses, 1 not BE

B10 8 tie ins for 14 teams, six teams BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 2 not BE

B12 7 tie ins for 10 teams, 5 BE, 2 with six losses, 1 not BE

C-USA 5.5 tie ins for 14 teams, 4 BE, two with 5 wins, 3 with 6 losses, 3 not BE

Indy 3 tie ins for Army 3-6, BYU 6-2, Navy 4-4

MAC 3 ties in for 13 teams, 5 BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 6 not BE

MWC 7 ties in for 12 teams, 2 teams BE, 3 with five wins, 2 with 6 losses, 2 not BE

P12 - 7 tie ins for 12 teams, six teams BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 1 team not BE.

SEC 10 tie ins for 14 teams, 6 BE, 2 with 5 wins, two with 6 losses.

SBC 2 tie ins for 8 teams, 2 BE, 3 with 5 wins, 1 not BE.

There are four at-larges in the BCS, which early on look to go to the SEC, P12, ACC and B12. Fresno State and Northern Illinois going undefeated would ensure that one of them would be in.

The AAC may get just enough teams, the ACC will almost assuredly not, the B10 could but isn't guaranteed, C-USA may be, though the slot they share with the AAC may go unfilled by either, the B10 will at best meet their slots, but could leave one short, the B12 is border line and if they send two teams to BCS's then certainly not,Army certainly won't go bowling and Navy may not, Notre Dame will certainly fill someone's at-large as a BCS looks out of the question, MAC will fill and be the SBC's main competition for at-large slots, MWC doesn't look like it will fill its slots even if Fresno doesn't go to a BCS, the P12 will and if Oregon goes to the NC, then they will not likely have at-larges and if the SEC sends a team to the NC as well as the sugar, their 14 teams can't fill 11 slots, so one or two will open there.

My bet is that C-USA won't send any more than their allotment, the MWC, B10, B12 and SEC won't fill their commitments while only the MAC will have any meaningful surplus for the SBC to compete with. Being in the footprint where most bowls are, the SBC will have the better options for bowl committees. Also, if I am not mistaken, the SBC has a secondary tie in with Little Ceasars and the B10 looks like it won't fill it.

I'd say bare minimum, the SBC gets three and I could see four again.

great post. i was thinking along the same line, but to lazy to type it all. so yes i say at very least, 3 teams go bowling. 4 teams have a good chance. but still a lot of football to play before things become clear.

Within the next few weeks for bowl eligible teams, it gets fun figuring out who you need to lose and watching those games. UTA, maybe you can put that together for us.

(11-03-2013 10:23 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 10:19 PM)TXSTRiverBobcat Wrote:  This thread should be called bowl ELIGIBLE possibilities. Either that or start talking about what it's going to take for certain teams to actually make a bowl game since it looks like only 2 Sun Belt teams will actually go this year. 3 max.

Don't be so sure.
AAC 5.5 tie ins for 10 teams (they split the Liberty with C-USA), 4 bowl eligible (BE) teams, 1 with 5 wins, 2 with 6 losses, 2 not BE.

ACC 8 tie ins for 14 teams, six teams BE, one team at five wins, three with five losses, 1 not BE

B10 8 tie ins for 14 teams, six teams BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 2 not BE

B12 7 tie ins for 10 teams, 5 BE, 2 with six losses, 1 not BE

C-USA 5.5 tie ins for 14 teams, 4 BE, two with 5 wins, 3 with 6 losses, 3 not BE

Indy 3 tie ins for Army 3-6, BYU 6-2, Navy 4-4

MAC 3 ties in for 13 teams, 5 BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 6 not BE

MWC 7 ties in for 12 teams, 2 teams BE, 3 with five wins, 2 with 6 losses, 2 not BE

P12 - 7 tie ins for 12 teams, six teams BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 1 team not BE.

SEC 10 tie ins for 14 teams, 6 BE, 2 with 5 wins, two with 6 losses.

SBC 2 tie ins for 8 teams, 2 BE, 3 with 5 wins, 1 not BE.

There are four at-larges in the BCS, which early on look to go to the SEC, P12, ACC and B12. Fresno State and Northern Illinois going undefeated would ensure that one of them would be in.

The AAC may get just enough teams, the ACC will almost assuredly not, the B10 could but isn't guaranteed, C-USA may be, though the slot they share with the AAC may go unfilled by either, the B10 will at best meet their slots, but could leave one short, the B12 is border line and if they send two teams to BCS's then certainly not,Army certainly won't go bowling and Navy may not, Notre Dame will certainly fill someone's at-large as a BCS looks out of the question, MAC will fill and be the SBC's main competition for at-large slots, MWC doesn't look like it will fill its slots even if Fresno doesn't go to a BCS, the P12 will and if Oregon goes to the NC, then they will not likely have at-larges and if the SEC sends a team to the NC as well as the sugar, their 14 teams can't fill 11 slots, so one or two will open there.

My bet is that C-USA won't send any more than their allotment, the MWC, B10, B12 and SEC won't fill their commitments while only the MAC will have any meaningful surplus for the SBC to compete with. Being in the footprint where most bowls are, the SBC will have the better options for bowl committees. Also, if I am not mistaken, the SBC has a secondary tie in with Little Ceasars and the B10 looks like it won't fill it.

I'd say bare minimum, the SBC gets three and I could see four again.

The ACC has 8 ties and can very realistically have 11 teams, more likely 10, bowl eligible. They'll have a few extra teams laying around, and Notre Dame also needs somewhere to go. There won't be many extra slots beyond 3 or 4. Big 10 won't fill one, maybe two if Illinois doesn't get eligible. The Pac 12 could also very likely have an extra team. The SEC will likely have 11, which exactly fills their slots and a national title slot.

Any extra ACC, Pac 12, Notre Dame type teams will get first dibs over any CUSA, SBC, or MAC leftovers. I wouldn't hold your breath. Nice analysis, but I think you're being a little optimistic.

I'm not expecting any extra slots for us. Glad I'm not fighting against 3-4 other conference teams for one slot.

(11-03-2013 05:21 PM)MTowho Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 10:23 AM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 10:19 PM)TXSTRiverBobcat Wrote:  This thread should be called bowl ELIGIBLE possibilities. Either that or start talking about what it's going to take for certain teams to actually make a bowl game since it looks like only 2 Sun Belt teams will actually go this year. 3 max.

Don't be so sure.
AAC 5.5 tie ins for 10 teams (they split the Liberty with C-USA), 4 bowl eligible (BE) teams, 1 with 5 wins, 2 with 6 losses, 2 not BE.

ACC 8 tie ins for 14 teams, six teams BE, one team at five wins, three with five losses, 1 not BE

B10 8 tie ins for 14 teams, six teams BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 2 not BE

B12 7 tie ins for 10 teams, 5 BE, 2 with six losses, 1 not BE

C-USA 5.5 tie ins for 14 teams, 4 BE, two with 5 wins, 3 with 6 losses, 3 not BE

Indy 3 tie ins for Army 3-6, BYU 6-2, Navy 4-4

MAC 3 ties in for 13 teams, 5 BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 6 not BE

MWC 7 ties in for 12 teams, 2 teams BE, 3 with five wins, 2 with 6 losses, 2 not BE

P12 - 7 tie ins for 12 teams, six teams BE, 1 team with 5 wins, 1 team not BE.

SEC 10 tie ins for 14 teams, 6 BE, 2 with 5 wins, two with 6 losses.

SBC 2 tie ins for 8 teams, 2 BE, 3 with 5 wins, 1 not BE.

There are four at-larges in the BCS, which early on look to go to the SEC, P12, ACC and B12. Fresno State and Northern Illinois going undefeated would ensure that one of them would be in.

The AAC may get just enough teams, the ACC will almost assuredly not, the B10 could but isn't guaranteed, C-USA may be, though the slot they share with the AAC may go unfilled by either, the B10 will at best meet their slots, but could leave one short, the B12 is border line and if they send two teams to BCS's then certainly not,Army certainly won't go bowling and Navy may not, Notre Dame will certainly fill someone's at-large as a BCS looks out of the question, MAC will fill and be the SBC's main competition for at-large slots, MWC doesn't look like it will fill its slots even if Fresno doesn't go to a BCS, the P12 will and if Oregon goes to the NC, then they will not likely have at-larges and if the SEC sends a team to the NC as well as the sugar, their 14 teams can't fill 11 slots, so one or two will open there.

My bet is that C-USA won't send any more than their allotment, the MWC, B10, B12 and SEC won't fill their commitments while only the MAC will have any meaningful surplus for the SBC to compete with. Being in the footprint where most bowls are, the SBC will have the better options for bowl committees. Also, if I am not mistaken, the SBC has a secondary tie in with Little Ceasars and the B10 looks like it won't fill it.

I'd say bare minimum, the SBC gets three and I could see four again.

The ACC has 8 ties and can very realistically have 11 teams, more likely 10, bowl eligible. They'll have a few extra teams laying around, and Notre Dame also needs somewhere to go. There won't be many extra slots beyond 3 or 4. Big 10 won't fill one, maybe two if Illinois doesn't get eligible. The Pac 12 could also very likely have an extra team. The SEC will likely have 11, which exactly fills their slots and a national title slot.

Any extra ACC, Pac 12, Notre Dame type teams will get first dibs over any CUSA, SBC, or MAC leftovers. I wouldn't hold your breath. Nice analysis, but I think you're being a little optimistic.

I'm not expecting any extra slots for us. Glad I'm not fighting against 3-4 other conference teams for one slot.

Of course not...you want it handed to you...the allure of cusa...

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