(11-03-2013 09:16 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Exactly, picking on students for not showing up to Homecoming is unfair when the entire upper deck was sparse yesterday. I wonder if $38 for Homecoming is too much to pay in the eyes of Alumni who perceive our football product as "small time."

I ended up not going to the game ... none of the friends that came down got tickets because they checked last week and didn't want to pay $38. I had a blast tailgating. It was the first game I've ever blatantly skipped. Do I regret it today? Yes. Do I keep telling myself I did it as a protest to MM that I boasted about last week? Yes. I wish I had gone to the game, but I also don't get to see my close friends as much as I used to now that I live further away ... and since none of them were going to the game, it made it hard to leave the tailgate and go in alone.

(11-03-2013 05:35 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 04:34 PM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 04:28 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 02:17 PM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 01:55 PM)Potomac Wrote:  Students not showing up on a beautiful day vs Villanova will also not show up on a beautiful day vs Texas-San Antonio.
I blame our increasingly obsession with technology and laziness as to why people aren't showing. Tv and iPads are more convenient then spending a day with friends.

So they won't show up for the CAA? Won't show up for CUSA, MAC, Sun Belt, etc?

Sooooo...are you saying we discontinue the program? Or no matter what we do, no one is coming?

Guessing you're a glass is half empty kind of person.

We'll grab the attention of a few of them, but when bama students don't show up for their game against ga state, it shows that winning and perception of opponent means more to casual fans than anything else.

North Dakota State
Eastern Illinois
Eastern Washington
McNeese State
Montana St
Coastal Carolina
Towson
Sam Houston
Fordham
Maine

...that's the top 10 in FCS right now. Now tell me which one of those winning programs would increase student attendance.

Perception (as you stated...I think...kinda confused on your last post) is everything. Our students view us as a step below no-name FBS schools. So while your average student doesn't care about [insert CUSA, MAC, Sun Belt team here], they would at least recognize that JMU is not a step down from Division 1 football.

Excellent point by showing the top 10 and asking which of these would the students care about. I'd say some MAY care a little about ndsu, but 2-10 won't move the needle one bit.
The problem is you have students listening to their tech and UVA friends, maybe even odu. They're taking their "no one cares about your division 2 school" comments seriously.
Purple hazed said he had a student said it was hard for her to care because her brother from tech is always laughing at her for rooting for that D2 team. It sounds stupid I know.

I don't think I'd throw UVA into that fold. They are far more apathetic to their football team at this point than JMU. It seems that their fans (more so alums than their Wal-Mart fans) tend to root for whomever is playing Tech more than UVA.

(11-04-2013 09:36 AM)JMUSkinsfan Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 09:16 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  Exactly, picking on students for not showing up to Homecoming is unfair when the entire upper deck was sparse yesterday. I wonder if $38 for Homecoming is too much to pay in the eyes of Alumni who perceive our football product as "small time."

I ended up not going to the game ... none of the friends that came down got tickets because they checked last week and didn't want to pay $38. I had a blast tailgating. It was the first game I've ever blatantly skipped. Do I regret it today? Yes. Do I keep telling myself I did it as a protest to MM that I boasted about last week? Yes. I wish I had gone to the game, but I also don't get to see my close friends as much as I used to now that I live further away ... and since none of them were going to the game, it made it hard to leave the tailgate and go in alone.

He does not root for them.

I did not root. :(

(11-03-2013 05:35 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 04:34 PM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 04:28 PM)Potomac Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 02:17 PM)DolleyMadison Wrote:  

(11-03-2013 01:55 PM)Potomac Wrote:  Students not showing up on a beautiful day vs Villanova will also not show up on a beautiful day vs Texas-San Antonio.
I blame our increasingly obsession with technology and laziness as to why people aren't showing. Tv and iPads are more convenient then spending a day with friends.

So they won't show up for the CAA? Won't show up for CUSA, MAC, Sun Belt, etc?

Sooooo...are you saying we discontinue the program? Or no matter what we do, no one is coming?

Guessing you're a glass is half empty kind of person.

We'll grab the attention of a few of them, but when bama students don't show up for their game against ga state, it shows that winning and perception of opponent means more to casual fans than anything else.

North Dakota State
Eastern Illinois
Eastern Washington
McNeese State
Montana St
Coastal Carolina
Towson
Sam Houston
Fordham
Maine

...that's the top 10 in FCS right now. Now tell me which one of those winning programs would increase student attendance.

Perception (as you stated...I think...kinda confused on your last post) is everything. Our students view us as a step below no-name FBS schools. So while your average student doesn't care about [insert CUSA, MAC, Sun Belt team here], they would at least recognize that JMU is not a step down from Division 1 football.

Excellent point by showing the top 10 and asking which of these would the students care about. I'd say some MAY care a little about ndsu, but 2-10 won't move the needle one bit.
The problem is you have students listening to their tech and UVA friends, maybe even odu. They're taking their "no one cares about your division 2 school" comments seriously.
Purple hazed said he had a student said it was hard for her to care because her brother from tech is always laughing at her for rooting for that D2 team. It sounds stupid I know.

I don't know that I'd put Coastal in there ... and maybe not even Towson ... there's a lot of talk about TU in the Balt. area ... how that compares with students ... I can't say. But there's a lot of "buzz" around CCU and TU these days.

(11-04-2013 11:39 AM)JMUSkinsfan Wrote:  I did not root. :(

Man ... you need classes in ..... rootin'

No complaining if you don't root.

(11-05-2013 11:30 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  No complaining if you don't root.

Ding. Ding. Ding.