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(11-04-2013 03:49 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(11-03-2013 06:29 PM)broncojohnny Wrote:  This tidbit is for emu Steve.

Kalis is a 5 star recruit who de-committed from OSU to sign with UofM.
He is a redshirt Fr.
Bosch is another 5 star recruit who is starting at the other guard spot. He is a true Fr.
The "O" line has been a revolving door since spring ball..
Way too many young talented guys playing a lot on both sides of the ball.
I think State has a veteran "D" and it showed...There were many voices that cautioned people that the Blue was a year away. It also didn't help that quality depth from Juniors and Seniors was sparse because of the ****** recruiting done by Rich Rod.
State was a better team today-period. They deserved it.
Any of you boys wanna give Western and 10 points in the fultility bowl this Saturday????
I've got Western by 28.

I've got Eastern by 28. Home field advantage. 03-lmfao
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(11-04-2013 04:13 AM)emu steve Wrote:  
(11-02-2013 09:20 PM)HuronDave Wrote:  
(11-02-2013 09:07 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(11-02-2013 08:54 PM)holybovine Wrote:  
(11-02-2013 08:49 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  Michigan was whipped by a better team that had better players and coaches.

Which should never be the case given Michigan's resources and history. If that isn't a coaching issue, what is it?

There are a couple issues. For starters, Michigan is still recovering from the RichRod era. RR had a recruiting class that had ONE OL in it. That’s insane. Then there is his God awful defensive recruiting. UM is paying for that now with lots of youth and lesser talented players playing.

Secondly, UM’s OL coach sucks. This happens. Sometimes big name schools get coaches who are terrible. MSU for example had Dan Roushar who was an horrendous OC.

Just because you have resources that does not mean you are immune from hiring poor coaches or coaches who are out of their depth, which is the case with Funk at UM. Funk coached with Hoke at SDSU and seemingly did an okay job. Here not so much.

I still think Hoke is a good coach. His track record at Ball State and SDSU tells me that he is. But he is going to have to do what John Beilein did after JB’s terrible third season and reevaluate his assistants. Clearly the job isn’t getting done to the standards Michigan football has set. UM, as you rightly noted, has too much resources and talent to be so poor on the offensive line.

The game today was an embarrassment and hopefully a wakeup call for Hoke.

Wow, I feel like I am reading the Eastern Echo here.

Dave:

how about: "An echo of Eastern (Michigan) FB."

You could take the post above and take the major themes and re-write it as EMU rather than UofM.

? for WolverineEagle:

How does a head coach coming from SDSU, bring his OL coach with him and make a terrible hire?

Did the OL coach lose it crossing the Mississippi?

That should never happen!

Compare to our OL coach. Very young. Had never coached in FBS or FCS. D-II OC.

P.S. EMU had what I thought was an excellent assistant coach roster last year. This year we have the 'green and inexperienced and cheaper' roster of assistant coaches.

Some guys just cannot cut it in different conferences. Funk for whatever reason isn’t able to get his guys to play properly. I’d like to see our good buddy Kurt Anderson take his spot. Former UM linemen who constructed some fine OL’s at EMU.
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(11-04-2013 03:39 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Perspective: The difference between EMU and the top MAC teams is about the same as Alabama and Vanderbilt in the SEC...if not greater. We are not competitive and haven't been for many, many, many years. There is no reason to believe we will be anytime soon. The definition of "hopeless." That said, how great was it to see MSU kick the crap out of Michigan?! 02-13-banana

Not as half as great as seeing OSU destroy MSU in the Big Ten Championshio game. Go Buckeyes.
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(11-05-2013 05:58 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(11-04-2013 03:39 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Perspective: The difference between EMU and the top MAC teams is about the same as Alabama and Vanderbilt in the SEC...if not greater. We are not competitive and haven't been for many, many, many years. There is no reason to believe we will be anytime soon. The definition of "hopeless." That said, how great was it to see MSU kick the crap out of Michigan?! 02-13-banana

Not as half as great as seeing OSU destroy MSU in the Big Ten Championshio game. Go Buckeyes.
Better yet, I can't wait for Ohio State to kick the living hell out of U-M in the regular season finale! That game is going to be U-G-L-Y! Go Buckeyes! What an embarrassment the U-M program has become.
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(11-05-2013 06:37 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 05:58 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(11-04-2013 03:39 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Perspective: The difference between EMU and the top MAC teams is about the same as Alabama and Vanderbilt in the SEC...if not greater. We are not competitive and haven't been for many, many, many years. There is no reason to believe we will be anytime soon. The definition of "hopeless." That said, how great was it to see MSU kick the crap out of Michigan?! 02-13-banana

Not as half as great as seeing OSU destroy MSU in the Big Ten Championshio game. Go Buckeyes.
Better yet, I can't wait for Ohio State to kick the living hell out of U-M in the regular season finale! That game is going to be U-G-L-Y! Go Buckeyes! What an embarrassment the U-M program has become.

Maybe so, but see MSU fail to reach a BCS bowl AGAIN will still put a smile on my face.
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(11-05-2013 06:48 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 06:37 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 05:58 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(11-04-2013 03:39 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Perspective: The difference between EMU and the top MAC teams is about the same as Alabama and Vanderbilt in the SEC...if not greater. We are not competitive and haven't been for many, many, many years. There is no reason to believe we will be anytime soon. The definition of "hopeless." That said, how great was it to see MSU kick the crap out of Michigan?! 02-13-banana

Not as half as great as seeing OSU destroy MSU in the Big Ten Championshio game. Go Buckeyes.
Better yet, I can't wait for Ohio State to kick the living hell out of U-M in the regular season finale! That game is going to be U-G-L-Y! Go Buckeyes! What an embarrassment the U-M program has become.

Maybe so, but see MSU fail to reach a BCS bowl AGAIN will still put a smile on my face.
With their defense, they have a shot to beat anyone. Go Spartans!
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(11-05-2013 06:56 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 06:48 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 06:37 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 05:58 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(11-04-2013 03:39 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Perspective: The difference between EMU and the top MAC teams is about the same as Alabama and Vanderbilt in the SEC...if not greater. We are not competitive and haven't been for many, many, many years. There is no reason to believe we will be anytime soon. The definition of "hopeless." That said, how great was it to see MSU kick the crap out of Michigan?! 02-13-banana

Not as half as great as seeing OSU destroy MSU in the Big Ten Championshio game. Go Buckeyes.
Better yet, I can't wait for Ohio State to kick the living hell out of U-M in the regular season finale! That game is going to be U-G-L-Y! Go Buckeyes! What an embarrassment the U-M program has become.

Maybe so, but see MSU fail to reach a BCS bowl AGAIN will still put a smile on my face.
With their defense, they have a shot to beat anyone. Go Spartans!

Leaving aside the smack talk I don’t think MSU would do well versus FSU, Oregon, or Alabama.Their offense isn’t good enough and eventually those offenses would wear down MSU’s defense.

OSU is a little different. I think MSU can exploit OSU’s secondary so they can move the ball against OSU. So can UM which why I disagree with your assessment that OSU will kick UM’s ass. I think that game will be fairly high scoring.

OSU is a bit overrated. Their defense is solid, but it isn’t the quality of the units Tressell had. Purdue is God awful and Penn State is not good. I think we will learn a lot about OSU’s defense when they play Michigan. If they do what MSU did--shot UM down--then I have a hard time seeing MSU beating them. But if Gardner and company put up 30 pts then the Big Ten title game will be very interesting.
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While EMU football lacks excitement this year (understatement of the year), big time college FB is having a banner year.

Have we had betters than Alabama, FSU, Oregon, OSU, etc.

Thursday we have #2 Oregon and #5 Stanford.
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I am watching the Ohio and Buffalo game on ESPN.

It is a very entertaining game, 0-0 at the start of 2nd qrt..

The Miami and Bowling Green game is playing on ESPNU it is currently BGSU 10 - Miami 3 2nd period.. This should be is us playing on Tuseday night..

If the Mac Gods were fair we would be allowed to play against Akron, Miami OH, and U-Mass along with W-Michigan and C-Michigan.. 5 easy game for us..
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(11-05-2013 06:48 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 06:37 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 05:58 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(11-04-2013 03:39 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Perspective: The difference between EMU and the top MAC teams is about the same as Alabama and Vanderbilt in the SEC...if not greater. We are not competitive and haven't been for many, many, many years. There is no reason to believe we will be anytime soon. The definition of "hopeless." That said, how great was it to see MSU kick the crap out of Michigan?! 02-13-banana

Not as half as great as seeing OSU destroy MSU in the Big Ten Championshio game. Go Buckeyes.
Better yet, I can't wait for Ohio State to kick the living hell out of U-M in the regular season finale! That game is going to be U-G-L-Y! Go Buckeyes! What an embarrassment the U-M program has become.

Maybe so, but see MSU fail to reach a BCS bowl AGAIN will still put a smile on my face.

Why? Best defense in the country. Solid coaching staff, led by a guy no one has a bad word about. Overall, a classier program than UM during the Dantonio era.
A true fan can appreciate what MSU has done, even if he's proud to be a Michigan Wolverine.
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(11-05-2013 08:58 PM)NUPudge Wrote:  I am watching the Ohio and Buffalo game on ESPN.

I'm watching McAuliffe and Cuccinelli (Va governor).

Football is fun but elections are more fun.
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(11-05-2013 09:47 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 08:58 PM)NUPudge Wrote:  I am watching the Ohio and Buffalo game on ESPN.

I'm watching McAuliffe and Cuccinelli (Va governor).

Football is fun but elections are more fun.

Yeah but that race is over per MSNBC
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(11-05-2013 09:47 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 08:58 PM)NUPudge Wrote:  I am watching the Ohio and Buffalo game on ESPN.

Football is fun but elections are more fun.

They're both equally meaningless.
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(11-05-2013 09:45 PM)michman83 Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 06:48 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 06:37 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 05:58 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(11-04-2013 03:39 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Perspective: The difference between EMU and the top MAC teams is about the same as Alabama and Vanderbilt in the SEC...if not greater. We are not competitive and haven't been for many, many, many years. There is no reason to believe we will be anytime soon. The definition of "hopeless." That said, how great was it to see MSU kick the crap out of Michigan?! 02-13-banana

Not as half as great as seeing OSU destroy MSU in the Big Ten Championshio game. Go Buckeyes.
Better yet, I can't wait for Ohio State to kick the living hell out of U-M in the regular season finale! That game is going to be U-G-L-Y! Go Buckeyes! What an embarrassment the U-M program has become.

Maybe so, but see MSU fail to reach a BCS bowl AGAIN will still put a smile on my face.

Why? Best defense in the country. Solid coaching staff, led by a guy no one has a bad word about. Overall, a classier program than UM during the Dantonio era.
A true fan can appreciate what MSU has done, even if he's proud to be a Michigan Wolverine.
Classy? You clearly have not been paying attention. The “where’s the threat”comment, the interruption of Hecklinski at the coaches conference, the comments about Mike Hart’s height, the joke about UM losing to Appy State, Narduzzi’s “60 minutes of unnecessary roughness”...MSU has been far from classy.

Granted, UM as returned it. The “Little Brother” comments(which we made in response to Dantonio’s Appy State comments), Lewan’s ridiculous on the field behavior.(matching Gholston’s), Toussaint stupid statement, etc.

Frankly, I think both sides need refresher courses in class. Yes, MSU has some outstanding coaches(Narduzzi in particular) and plays defense like UM used to play it. But classy? I cannot agree. At least not when it comes to Michigan.
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(11-05-2013 10:10 PM)NUPudge Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 09:47 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 08:58 PM)NUPudge Wrote:  I am watching the Ohio and Buffalo game on ESPN.

I'm watching McAuliffe and Cuccinelli (Va governor).

Football is fun but elections are more fun.

Yeah but that race is over per MSNBC

That is true, but the race for attorney general is now. Time for a recount (which I guess is like instant replay taken over 2 weeks instead of 2 minutes):

Attorney General Votes % Won
Mark Obenshain 1,089,668 50.0 %
Mark Herring 1,088,311 50.0

EDIT: this is with 99+% reporting with maybe a dozen or two dozen precincts out and most of those favoring the trailing candidate.
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(11-05-2013 10:10 PM)NUPudge Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 09:47 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 08:58 PM)NUPudge Wrote:  I am watching the Ohio and Buffalo game on ESPN.

I'm watching McAuliffe and Cuccinelli (Va governor).

Football is fun but elections are more fun.

Yeah but that race is over per MSNBC

Back to football, not competitive tonight in the MAC, but look at the BCS standings (AL, FSU, Ore, and OSU) and the possible at-large bid between Fresno State and N. Il. U.

Now that is athletic excitement.
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(11-05-2013 10:10 PM)holybovine Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 09:47 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 08:58 PM)NUPudge Wrote:  I am watching the Ohio and Buffalo game on ESPN.

Football is fun but elections are more fun.

They're both equally meaningless.

Ah, but HB, that where you're wrong, my friend. Elections have consequences for one and all and are, therefore, not meaningless. Sports, in the end, is meaningless but elections are not.
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(11-06-2013 07:52 AM)HuronRob Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 10:10 PM)holybovine Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 09:47 PM)emu steve Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 08:58 PM)NUPudge Wrote:  I am watching the Ohio and Buffalo game on ESPN.

Football is fun but elections are more fun.

They're both equally meaningless.

Ah, but HB, that where you're wrong, my friend. Elections have consequences for one and all and are, therefore, not meaningless. Sports, in the end, is meaningless but elections are not.

You are right.

There are things which have great direct meaning, e.g., health, employment, etc.

Then there are things which are entertainment or diversionary endeavors like sports.

Government is close to my 1st example, that is, it has very direct and indirect effects on one's life and some can be huge, for the good or for bad.

E.g., I just saw my DDS this a.m. He has a 25 year old son who is considered disabled and he wondered about health insurance for his son (the DDS now has Medicare but has a wife and disabled son so family insurance is complicated).

Since my DDS is old enough to be entitled to Social Security he can apply for himself, even though still employed, and request disability social security for his son and get Medicare as his son's health insurance.

That would be HUGE for my dentist and his son.

My dentist's wife could get an individual policy for herself as her son and husband would have other coverage for themselves.

These things are infinitely more important than the score of the last EMU athletic contest.
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(11-05-2013 10:31 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 09:45 PM)michman83 Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 06:48 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 06:37 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  
(11-05-2013 05:58 PM)wolverineeagle Wrote:  Not as half as great as seeing OSU destroy MSU in the Big Ten Championshio game. Go Buckeyes.
Better yet, I can't wait for Ohio State to kick the living hell out of U-M in the regular season finale! That game is going to be U-G-L-Y! Go Buckeyes! What an embarrassment the U-M program has become.

Maybe so, but see MSU fail to reach a BCS bowl AGAIN will still put a smile on my face.

Why? Best defense in the country. Solid coaching staff, led by a guy no one has a bad word about. Overall, a classier program than UM during the Dantonio era.
A true fan can appreciate what MSU has done, even if he's proud to be a Michigan Wolverine.
Classy? You clearly have not been paying attention. The “where’s the threat”comment, the interruption of Hecklinski at the coaches conference, the comments about Mike Hart’s height, the joke about UM losing to Appy State, Narduzzi’s “60 minutes of unnecessary roughness”...MSU has been far from classy.

Granted, UM as returned it. The “Little Brother” comments(which we made in response to Dantonio’s Appy State comments), Lewan’s ridiculous on the field behavior.(matching Gholston’s), Toussaint stupid statement, etc.

Frankly, I think both sides need refresher courses in class. Yes, MSU has some outstanding coaches(Narduzzi in particular) and plays defense like UM used to play it. But classy? I cannot agree. At least not when it comes to Michigan.
God! That Little brother nonsense has to be put away forever! It reminds me of the kid who gets his butt kicked on the playground repeatedly and you let him up because you feel sorry for him and he then calls you a name and never learns his lesson. MSU is the best football program in the state and has been for quite some time now.
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But, but, but we won a bunch of national titles in the early 1900's!!! And we get 4 and 5 star recruits!!! You'll always be little brother with your 2 and 3 stars.

/Michigan fan
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