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RE: ECU and the SEC
(02-16-2018 06:48 PM)mj4life Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 04:54 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(02-15-2018 07:18 PM)mj4life Wrote:  ECU just doesn't offer much to the SEC period, if the goal is to maximize revenue then UNC is the only school that gets you closest to that figure followed by NCSU

If UNC were available without a huge financial hurdle, then that would open up the door for Clemson, Florida State, VT, Miami, Louisville, GT, who would all be more favorable gets than UNC.
Louisville,GT & VT are debatable. Either way we are talking about whether or not ECU adds value & it just doesn't

From a less biased point of view, (Mj4life and unc in your sig) Louisville, GT, and VT are not debatable. I would have answered differently a few years ago when they still had academics going for them.
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ECU adds value as it adds Raleigh and ENC to the SEC media market along with the Tidewater area of Virginia.
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(02-19-2018 12:56 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:48 PM)mj4life Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 04:54 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(02-15-2018 07:18 PM)mj4life Wrote:  ECU just doesn't offer much to the SEC period, if the goal is to maximize revenue then UNC is the only school that gets you closest to that figure followed by NCSU

If UNC were available without a huge financial hurdle, then that would open up the door for Clemson, Florida State, VT, Miami, Louisville, GT, who would all be more favorable gets than UNC.
Louisville,GT & VT are debatable. Either way we are talking about whether or not ECU adds value & it just doesn't

From a less biased point of view, (Mj4life and unc in your sig) Louisville, GT, and VT are not debatable. I would have answered differently a few years ago when they still had academics going for them.
No bias at all, What metrics in your mind make them a better add? But it still doesn't have anything to do with whether ECU adds value or not.
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(02-19-2018 10:04 PM)mj4life Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 12:56 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:48 PM)mj4life Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 04:54 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(02-15-2018 07:18 PM)mj4life Wrote:  ECU just doesn't offer much to the SEC period, if the goal is to maximize revenue then UNC is the only school that gets you closest to that figure followed by NCSU

If UNC were available without a huge financial hurdle, then that would open up the door for Clemson, Florida State, VT, Miami, Louisville, GT, who would all be more favorable gets than UNC.
Louisville,GT & VT are debatable. Either way we are talking about whether or not ECU adds value & it just doesn't

From a less biased point of view, (Mj4life and unc in your sig) Louisville, GT, and VT are not debatable. I would have answered differently a few years ago when they still had academics going for them.
No bias at all, What metrics in your mind make them a better add? But it still doesn't have anything to do with whether ECU adds value or not.

I'm looking at on-field results and viewership.

It does have something to do with whether ECU adds value. ECU is currently the best NC option (and better than SC and VA options for that matter) due to ACC exit fees.

You say that UNC would be the best option. I'm saying that if exit fees were not an issue, then they also wouldn't be an issue for the more valuable ACC teams.
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(Yesterday 03:07 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 10:04 PM)mj4life Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 12:56 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:48 PM)mj4life Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 04:54 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  If UNC were available without a huge financial hurdle, then that would open up the door for Clemson, Florida State, VT, Miami, Louisville, GT, who would all be more favorable gets than UNC.
Louisville,GT & VT are debatable. Either way we are talking about whether or not ECU adds value & it just doesn't

From a less biased point of view, (Mj4life and unc in your sig) Louisville, GT, and VT are not debatable. I would have answered differently a few years ago when they still had academics going for them.
No bias at all, What metrics in your mind make them a better add? But it still doesn't have anything to do with whether ECU adds value or not.

I'm looking at on-field results and viewership.

It does have something to do with whether ECU adds value. ECU is currently the best NC option (and better than SC and VA options for that matter) due to ACC exit fees.

You say that UNC would be the best option. I'm saying that if exit fees were not an issue, then they also wouldn't be an issue for the more valuable ACC teams.

If the SEC values adding a team in NC then yes UNC is the best option followed by NCSU. So their is no need to add ECU since you don't add much from a tv,academic or research perspective. You would be at the bottom of every meaninful category in the SEC
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(Yesterday 03:40 PM)mj4life Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:07 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 10:04 PM)mj4life Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 12:56 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:48 PM)mj4life Wrote:  Louisville,GT & VT are debatable. Either way we are talking about whether or not ECU adds value & it just doesn't

From a less biased point of view, (Mj4life and unc in your sig) Louisville, GT, and VT are not debatable. I would have answered differently a few years ago when they still had academics going for them.
No bias at all, What metrics in your mind make them a better add? But it still doesn't have anything to do with whether ECU adds value or not.

I'm looking at on-field results and viewership.

It does have something to do with whether ECU adds value. ECU is currently the best NC option (and better than SC and VA options for that matter) due to ACC exit fees.

You say that UNC would be the best option. I'm saying that if exit fees were not an issue, then they also wouldn't be an issue for the more valuable ACC teams.

If the SEC values adding a team in NC then yes UNC is the best option followed by NCSU. So their is no need to add ECU since you don't add much from a tv,academic or research perspective. You would be at the bottom of every meaninful category in the SEC

From a value perspective the pecking order is:
1. North Carollina
2. N.C. State
3. Duke

Wake Forest and East Carolina don't really have a shot. East Carolina's issue is that no network wants to pay big money for a 5th P school from a state of 9.5 million. They don't like paying for 5 in Texas and they have 32 million.

It's really as simple as that.
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(Yesterday 03:40 PM)mj4life Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:07 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 10:04 PM)mj4life Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 12:56 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:48 PM)mj4life Wrote:  Louisville,GT & VT are debatable. Either way we are talking about whether or not ECU adds value & it just doesn't

From a less biased point of view, (Mj4life and unc in your sig) Louisville, GT, and VT are not debatable. I would have answered differently a few years ago when they still had academics going for them.
No bias at all, What metrics in your mind make them a better add? But it still doesn't have anything to do with whether ECU adds value or not.

I'm looking at on-field results and viewership.

It does have something to do with whether ECU adds value. ECU is currently the best NC option (and better than SC and VA options for that matter) due to ACC exit fees.

You say that UNC would be the best option. I'm saying that if exit fees were not an issue, then they also wouldn't be an issue for the more valuable ACC teams.

If the SEC values adding a team in NC then yes UNC is the best option followed by NCSU. So their is no need to add ECU since you don't add much from a tv,academic or research perspective. You would be at the bottom of every meaninful category in the SEC

That would make me think that NC State would be the preferred option. I'm not sure how the tv numbers stack up (does UNC Chapel Hill have more eyeballs?), but they have not ruined their academic reputation so far, and they are even more competitive than ECU on the field recently.

But...again, I was talking about the AVAILABLE options in the region.
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RE: ECU and the SEC
(Yesterday 07:10 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:40 PM)mj4life Wrote:  
(Yesterday 03:07 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 10:04 PM)mj4life Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 12:56 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  From a less biased point of view, (Mj4life and unc in your sig) Louisville, GT, and VT are not debatable. I would have answered differently a few years ago when they still had academics going for them.
No bias at all, What metrics in your mind make them a better add? But it still doesn't have anything to do with whether ECU adds value or not.

I'm looking at on-field results and viewership.

It does have something to do with whether ECU adds value. ECU is currently the best NC option (and better than SC and VA options for that matter) due to ACC exit fees.

You say that UNC would be the best option. I'm saying that if exit fees were not an issue, then they also wouldn't be an issue for the more valuable ACC teams.

If the SEC values adding a team in NC then yes UNC is the best option followed by NCSU. So their is no need to add ECU since you don't add much from a tv,academic or research perspective. You would be at the bottom of every meaninful category in the SEC

That would make me think that NC State would be the preferred option. I'm not sure how the tv numbers stack up (does UNC Chapel Hill have more eyeballs?), but they have not ruined their academic reputation so far, and they are even more competitive than ECU on the field recently.

But...again, I was talking about the AVAILABLE options in the region.

That means there are NO OPTIONS from the state of NC which is what I was talking about
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