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So that would make him a liar. Huh. Go figure.

I originally thought this thread would be about Gov Snyder. Huh. Go figure.

(10-28-2013 09:00 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  I originally thought this thread would be about Gov Snyder. Huh. Go figure.

So now that your clear on the topic, what say you?

So much for changing Washington. This man is a joke of a president.

I would rather have a president be a lair about his sex life than all the dishonesty from this president and his administration.

So much dishonesty of things that actually affect peoples lives and now the destroyed trust of the USA from other counties. Very Sad.

Quote:Millions of Americans are getting their health insurance cancelled under the Affordable Care Act and the Obama administration has known for about three years that this would happen, NBC News is reporting.

(10-29-2013 08:14 AM)okgc Wrote:  I would rather have a president be a lair about his sex life than all the dishonesty from this president and his administration.

So much dishonesty of things that actually affect peoples lives and now the destroyed trust of the USA from other counties. Very Sad.

Quote:Millions of Americans are getting their health insurance cancelled under the Affordable Care Act and the Obama administration has known for about three years that this would happen, NBC News is reporting.

But in his heart of hearts he "knows what is best for us". And if we are too stupid, lame or just misguided he's there to shepherd us through.

Of course it helps to have fellow leadership who fits those 3 descriptions.
We have to pass this bill (ACA) before we know how it works. Never mind reading, understanding and acting accordingly before hand to avoid obvious pitfalls.

And then recently we were advised that to avoid being a deadbeat nation that we had to be one first.

Easy to have followers when "co-leaders" fit the description of us, the great unwashed. Or maybe they are all in on this knowing full well the actions needed to render these consequences.

Either way its not good.

(10-29-2013 08:14 AM)okgc Wrote:  I would rather have a president be a lair about his sex life than all the dishonesty from this president and his administration.

So much dishonesty of things that actually affect peoples lives and now the destroyed trust of the USA from other counties. Very Sad.

Wait, I said that during dumbya's presidency, the exact same thing, and was drummed off of this board!

We'll have to wait till the dust settles to find out the rest of the story.

(10-29-2013 04:23 PM)bostonbronco Wrote:  We'll have to wait till the dust settles to find out the rest of the story.

Are you suggesting this whole thing should roll out without critical eyes and ears dissecting it? And just wait to see if it works after the fact?

I've never seen a new rollout of any kind of magnitude go off without hitches, IT related or not. This is no different.

It's kind of disingenuous when the people screaming the loudest about being upset at the rollout are the ones against it in the first place.

I mean, c'mon, really.

Quote:I've never seen a new rollout of any kind of magnitude go off without hitches, IT related or not.

You'd classify the failed implementation of this "policy" a "hitch"?

(10-29-2013 06:15 PM)gobaseline Wrote:  

(10-29-2013 04:23 PM)bostonbronco Wrote:  We'll have to wait till the dust settles to find out the rest of the story.

Are you suggesting this whole thing should roll out without critical eyes and ears dissecting it? And just wait to see if it works after the fact?

NO! I'm just not as smart as all you guys. I have to wait to see what unfolds rather than be impulsive about my responses.

I'm a simple guy. I respect everyone's input here. Whether it be sports, Western, or politics. I like reading about various viewpoints. It helps me to come to some sort of conclusion. That's all.

(10-29-2013 07:28 PM)bostonbronco Wrote:  

(10-29-2013 06:15 PM)gobaseline Wrote:  

(10-29-2013 04:23 PM)bostonbronco Wrote:  We'll have to wait till the dust settles to find out the rest of the story.

Are you suggesting this whole thing should roll out without critical eyes and ears dissecting it? And just wait to see if it works after the fact?

NO! I'm just not as smart as all you guys. I have to wait to see what unfolds rather than be impulsive about my responses.

I'm a simple guy. I respect everyone's input here. Whether it be sports, Western, or politics. I like reading about various viewpoints. It helps me to come to some sort of conclusion. That's all.

Ok. I'm in the same boat (putt putt, I dont row) reading, learning drawing conclusions and formulating questions.

But loving history this I know. Those that ignore it repeat it.

The President is on the record as candidate to be Senator in Illinois and for his first term in the WH to want to eliminate all employer offered health care and go the single payer route using the US government as the recipient of all $$.

Under the "guise" of all folk get coverage (seems fair and the right thing to do) it is crooked as a dogs hind leg.

Each "patient" is not considered one. They are exclusively considered a "cost center". If it cant be justified financially that YOU get medical treatment you CANT. It wont be allowed, unless you have friends in high places. Or are financially well off that you can pay the going rate sans insurance (self insured).

The "insurance company" is the Federal Government. They determine what you pay, who receives services or not and when you receive treatment. They also keep all your personal history since they are Doctor, Insurance agent and executioner.

Now I know it isnt the Governments position or this Administration to dig into peoples personal lives or randomly select folk for audits and the like that primarily dont see through the same political lens. That would be over the top and un American.

So I guess we can rest assured that this fib regarding keeping your doctor and keeping your existing plan was all a misunderstanding. And moving forward it will work itself out.

On it's own.

Again.

(10-29-2013 07:28 PM)bostonbronco Wrote:  

(10-29-2013 06:15 PM)gobaseline Wrote:  

(10-29-2013 04:23 PM)bostonbronco Wrote:  We'll have to wait till the dust settles to find out the rest of the story.

Are you suggesting this whole thing should roll out without critical eyes and ears dissecting it? And just wait to see if it works after the fact?

NO! I'm just not as smart as all you guys. I have to wait to see what unfolds rather than be impulsive about my responses.

I'm a simple guy. I respect everyone's input here. Whether it be sports, Western, or politics. I like reading about various viewpoints. It helps me to come to some sort of conclusion. That's all.

That means you're smarter than the rest of us, and you can't pull that act with me, I remember meeting you. You ARE smarter than the rest of us, except for ESSS who is right there with you. Same style too, go figure.