i made this last week (before this weeks games were played)

just thought id share:

-so far this season, team SEC has had 8 different teams (over half the conference) ranked at #11 or higher at some point in the season

-go back to this point last season and that number rise's to 9, go to the beginning of last season and that number rises to 10. so basically what we are seeing is that 10/14 sec teams were ranking 11th or higher at some point in this season or last season.

-what makes this number so insane is that of the 4 remaining SEC teams that dont have a top 11 ranking within the past year & a half, 3 of them have still made the rankings anyway. that means just one sec team hasnt been ranked within this season & last season

-in this season alone 6 sec teams (nearly half of the sec) have been at #6 or higher in the AP, go back to last season and that number rises to 7 sec teams (half the sec) have had a top 6 ranking, (5 of which were in the the top 3!!!!)

now these are some pretty amazing stats and personally i think theres no way a conference can be that elite, i think these stats are more showing of how much love the SEC gets in the polls rather than how much better the conference is

but then again its all open to interpretation

(10-27-2013 10:37 AM)john01992 Wrote:  i made this last week (before this weeks games were played)

just thought id share:

-so far this season, team SEC has had 8 different teams (over half the conference) ranked at #11 or higher at some point in the season

-go back to this point last season and that number rise's to 9, go to the beginning of last season and that number rises to 10. so basically what we are seeing is that 10/14 sec teams were ranking 11th or higher at some point in this season or last season.

-what makes this number so insane is that of the 4 remaining SEC teams that dont have a top 11 ranking within the past year & a half, 3 of them have still made the rankings anyway. that means just one sec team hasnt been ranked within this season & last season

-in this season alone 6 sec teams (nearly half of the sec) have been at #6 or higher in the AP, go back to last season and that number rises to 7 sec teams (half the sec) have had a top 6 ranking, (5 of which were in the the top 3!!!!)

now these are some pretty amazing stats and personally i think theres no way a conference can be that elite, i think these stats are more showing of how much love the SEC gets in the polls rather than how much better the conference is

but then again its all open to interpretation

The BCS computers had Missouri at three. Thats a machine who analyzes stats. Not a coach or sports writer. Computers do not show the love you talk about.

(10-27-2013 10:47 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(10-27-2013 10:37 AM)john01992 Wrote:  i made this last week (before this weeks games were played)

just thought id share:

-so far this season, team SEC has had 8 different teams (over half the conference) ranked at #11 or higher at some point in the season

-go back to this point last season and that number rise's to 9, go to the beginning of last season and that number rises to 10. so basically what we are seeing is that 10/14 sec teams were ranking 11th or higher at some point in this season or last season.

-what makes this number so insane is that of the 4 remaining SEC teams that dont have a top 11 ranking within the past year & a half, 3 of them have still made the rankings anyway. that means just one sec team hasnt been ranked within this season & last season

-in this season alone 6 sec teams (nearly half of the sec) have been at #6 or higher in the AP, go back to last season and that number rises to 7 sec teams (half the sec) have had a top 6 ranking, (5 of which were in the the top 3!!!!)

now these are some pretty amazing stats and personally i think theres no way a conference can be that elite, i think these stats are more showing of how much love the SEC gets in the polls rather than how much better the conference is

but then again its all open to interpretation

The BCS computers had Missouri at three. Thats a machine who analyzes stats. Not a coach or sports writer. Computers do not show the love you talk about.

tough game last night, i was really pulling for you guys

(10-27-2013 11:10 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-27-2013 10:47 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(10-27-2013 10:37 AM)john01992 Wrote:  i made this last week (before this weeks games were played)

just thought id share:

-so far this season, team SEC has had 8 different teams (over half the conference) ranked at #11 or higher at some point in the season

-go back to this point last season and that number rise's to 9, go to the beginning of last season and that number rises to 10. so basically what we are seeing is that 10/14 sec teams were ranking 11th or higher at some point in this season or last season.

-what makes this number so insane is that of the 4 remaining SEC teams that dont have a top 11 ranking within the past year & a half, 3 of them have still made the rankings anyway. that means just one sec team hasnt been ranked within this season & last season

-in this season alone 6 sec teams (nearly half of the sec) have been at #6 or higher in the AP, go back to last season and that number rises to 7 sec teams (half the sec) have had a top 6 ranking, (5 of which were in the the top 3!!!!)

now these are some pretty amazing stats and personally i think theres no way a conference can be that elite, i think these stats are more showing of how much love the SEC gets in the polls rather than how much better the conference is

but then again its all open to interpretation

The BCS computers had Missouri at three. Thats a machine who analyzes stats. Not a coach or sports writer. Computers do not show the love you talk about.

tough game last night, i was really pulling for you guys

When the SEC fails to win a National Championship for a few years and all of our teams lose their bowl games for a few years running I'll listen to this with an open mind. But to be frank if anyone is to blame for the SEC "love" that you claim it's the networks. The higher the numbers of ranking are between two teams the more eyeballs are on the sets. This has been going on for decades. In the 60's and 70's it was the Big 10, in the mid 70's until the mid 80's it was the Big 8, now it's the SEC.

It is not something that Southerners dwell on because it is just eyeball propaganda for television ratings. They moved Missouri up to #5 to get ready to hype the CCG in the SEC as being between to top 5 schools. They'll hype the Iron Bowl now unless Auburn or Alabama stumble and they'll pray Mizzou doesn't lose to A&M.

But I see this thread as as subtle attempt to troll this board. And to that I say, "be careful".

yeah the SEC has a natty streak but thats come in the hands of dominance by just 3 programs (florida, alabama & lsu) plus a one hit wonder (auburn)

yes the SEC is the best conference, but are the really as good as the polls suggest where they get EIGHT..........EIGHT different teams ranked in the top 11 just halfway through the season and have 10/14 in the top 11 within a full years cycle. there's been only 1 sec team (kentucky) that hasnt been ranked in the last 20 weeks of the AP poll.

sure the sec is top heavy but there is absolutely no way any conference can possibly have that top to bottom depth

(10-28-2013 09:17 AM)john01992 Wrote:  yeah the SEC has a natty streak but thats come in the hands of dominance by just 3 programs (florida, alabama & lsu) plus a one hit wonder (auburn)

yes the SEC is the best conference, but are the really as good as the polls suggest where they get EIGHT..........EIGHT different teams ranked in the top 11 just halfway through the season and have 10/14 in the top 11 within a full years cycle. there's been only 1 sec team (kentucky) that hasnt been ranked in the last 20 weeks of the AP poll.

sure the sec is top heavy but there is absolutely no way any conference can possibly have that top to bottom depth

7 consecutive national championships by 4 teams. No other conference has accomplished this, ever. The SEC has a consistent winning percentage in post season bowls with most of our entrants playing up (not down) to the competition's final positioning. One year our #7 seed played the Big East's runner up. Our number 4 consistently plays the ACC's #3 in the Chic Filet bowl. The same set up occurs with the Big 10 in the Outback. Our number #3 plays their #2 and the same is true in the Gator bowl with lower seeds.

So John until these things change it's time to drop this. And by the way the one hit wonder Auburn is ranked in the top 15 programs of all time, was coached by John Heisman, has won 2 national championships and numerous SEC titles, and has 3 Heisman trophy winners. The depth of the SEC is extensive. Where's the depth in the Big 10? This year maybe Sparty or the Wolverines, ...maybe? Where's the depth in the ACC? A demolished Clemson team and a Miami squad that should have lost to a woeful Florida team that I picked at 7 -5 or 6 -6 before the season started and should have lost to a woeful North Carolina squad and Wake Forest. Where's the depth in the PAC? It sure as hell isn't in the whole Southern division! It's Stanford and Oregon State.

The conference that in my opinion is still #2 in depth is the Big 12 and due to their round robin play they will destroy each other before the post season. Baylor looks great, but they've yet to play Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, and the only other Big 12 team without a conference loss Texas who by the way got their butts whipped by Ole Miss a team in 5th place in the SEC West.

So the obviousness is why I call this a troll thread and I'm warning you that if you persist with this garbage on the SEC board you'll be tossed. I didn't ban you before but I understood why those who did finally decided to do so. You promised to change before Bit reinstated you. I like you fine but find a way to participate that isn't designed to irritate or else.

The strength of a conference comes from the middle to lower end of the conference. That gives us Ole Miss, Vandy, and Florida. I'd pit those teams up against a lot of teams in the nation.

I wouldn't hold out as much hope for Minnesota, Iowa, and Nebraska. Nor would I for, Arizona State, Oregon State, or Wazzu.

(10-28-2013 09:41 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 09:17 AM)john01992 Wrote:  yeah the SEC has a natty streak but thats come in the hands of dominance by just 3 programs (florida, alabama & lsu) plus a one hit wonder (auburn)

yes the SEC is the best conference, but are the really as good as the polls suggest where they get EIGHT..........EIGHT different teams ranked in the top 11 just halfway through the season and have 10/14 in the top 11 within a full years cycle. there's been only 1 sec team (kentucky) that hasnt been ranked in the last 20 weeks of the AP poll.

sure the sec is top heavy but there is absolutely no way any conference can possibly have that top to bottom depth

7 consecutive national championships by 4 teams. No other conference has accomplished this, ever. The SEC has a consistent winning percentage in post season bowls with most of our entrants playing up (not down) to the competition's final positioning. One year our #7 seed played the Big East's runner up. Our number 4 consistently plays the ACC's #3 in the Chic Filet bowl. The same set up occurs with the Big 10 in the Outback. Our number #3 plays their #2 and the same is true in the Gator bowl with lower seeds.

So John until these things change it's time to drop this. And by the way the one hit wonder Auburn is ranked in the top 15 programs of all time, was coached by John Heisman, has won 2 national championships and numerous SEC titles, and has 3 Heisman trophy winners. The depth of the SEC is extensive. Where's the depth in the Big 10? This year maybe Sparty or the Wolverines, ...maybe? Where's the depth in the ACC? A demolished Clemson team and a Miami squad that should have lost to a woeful Florida team that I picked at 7 -5 or 6 -6 before the season started and should have lost to a woeful North Carolina squad and Wake Forest. Where's the depth in the PAC? It sure as hell isn't in the whole Southern division! It's Stanford and Oregon State.

The conference that in my opinion is still #2 in depth is the Big 12 and due to their round robin play they will destroy each other before the post season. Baylor looks great, but they've yet to play Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, and the only other Big 12 team without a conference loss Texas who by the way got their butts whipped by Ole Miss a team in 5th place in the SEC West.

So the obviousness is why I call this a troll thread and I'm warning you that if you persist with this garbage on the SEC board you'll be tossed. I didn't ban you before but I understood why those who did finally decided to do so. You promised to change before Bit reinstated you. I like you fine but find a way to participate that isn't designed to irritate or else.

i never said auburn was a bad program......

they just came from outta nowhere though cuz of a transfer future heisman trophy winner and the team then proceeded to crash & burn right after he left

(10-28-2013 01:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 09:41 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 09:17 AM)john01992 Wrote:  yeah the SEC has a natty streak but thats come in the hands of dominance by just 3 programs (florida, alabama & lsu) plus a one hit wonder (auburn)

yes the SEC is the best conference, but are the really as good as the polls suggest where they get EIGHT..........EIGHT different teams ranked in the top 11 just halfway through the season and have 10/14 in the top 11 within a full years cycle. there's been only 1 sec team (kentucky) that hasnt been ranked in the last 20 weeks of the AP poll.

sure the sec is top heavy but there is absolutely no way any conference can possibly have that top to bottom depth

7 consecutive national championships by 4 teams. No other conference has accomplished this, ever. The SEC has a consistent winning percentage in post season bowls with most of our entrants playing up (not down) to the competition's final positioning. One year our #7 seed played the Big East's runner up. Our number 4 consistently plays the ACC's #3 in the Chic Filet bowl. The same set up occurs with the Big 10 in the Outback. Our number #3 plays their #2 and the same is true in the Gator bowl with lower seeds.

So John until these things change it's time to drop this. And by the way the one hit wonder Auburn is ranked in the top 15 programs of all time, was coached by John Heisman, has won 2 national championships and numerous SEC titles, and has 3 Heisman trophy winners. The depth of the SEC is extensive. Where's the depth in the Big 10? This year maybe Sparty or the Wolverines, ...maybe? Where's the depth in the ACC? A demolished Clemson team and a Miami squad that should have lost to a woeful Florida team that I picked at 7 -5 or 6 -6 before the season started and should have lost to a woeful North Carolina squad and Wake Forest. Where's the depth in the PAC? It sure as hell isn't in the whole Southern division! It's Stanford and Oregon State.

The conference that in my opinion is still #2 in depth is the Big 12 and due to their round robin play they will destroy each other before the post season. Baylor looks great, but they've yet to play Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, and the only other Big 12 team without a conference loss Texas who by the way got their butts whipped by Ole Miss a team in 5th place in the SEC West.

So the obviousness is why I call this a troll thread and I'm warning you that if you persist with this garbage on the SEC board you'll be tossed. I didn't ban you before but I understood why those who did finally decided to do so. You promised to change before Bit reinstated you. I like you fine but find a way to participate that isn't designed to irritate or else.

i never said auburn was a bad program......

they just came from outta nowhere though cuz of a transfer future heisman trophy winner and the team then proceeded to crash & burn right after he left

We did not get this SEC Board active again to have petty fights with other conferences or their fans... We don't care how other people or conferences feel about the SEC. When I visit the other boards I consider myself a guest and I act accordingly. Take it to the main board.

(10-28-2013 01:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 09:41 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 09:17 AM)john01992 Wrote:  yeah the SEC has a natty streak but thats come in the hands of dominance by just 3 programs (florida, alabama & lsu) plus a one hit wonder (auburn)

yes the SEC is the best conference, but are the really as good as the polls suggest where they get EIGHT..........EIGHT different teams ranked in the top 11 just halfway through the season and have 10/14 in the top 11 within a full years cycle. there's been only 1 sec team (kentucky) that hasnt been ranked in the last 20 weeks of the AP poll.

sure the sec is top heavy but there is absolutely no way any conference can possibly have that top to bottom depth

7 consecutive national championships by 4 teams. No other conference has accomplished this, ever. The SEC has a consistent winning percentage in post season bowls with most of our entrants playing up (not down) to the competition's final positioning. One year our #7 seed played the Big East's runner up. Our number 4 consistently plays the ACC's #3 in the Chic Filet bowl. The same set up occurs with the Big 10 in the Outback. Our number #3 plays their #2 and the same is true in the Gator bowl with lower seeds.

So John until these things change it's time to drop this. And by the way the one hit wonder Auburn is ranked in the top 15 programs of all time, was coached by John Heisman, has won 2 national championships and numerous SEC titles, and has 3 Heisman trophy winners. The depth of the SEC is extensive. Where's the depth in the Big 10? This year maybe Sparty or the Wolverines, ...maybe? Where's the depth in the ACC? A demolished Clemson team and a Miami squad that should have lost to a woeful Florida team that I picked at 7 -5 or 6 -6 before the season started and should have lost to a woeful North Carolina squad and Wake Forest. Where's the depth in the PAC? It sure as hell isn't in the whole Southern division! It's Stanford and Oregon State.

The conference that in my opinion is still #2 in depth is the Big 12 and due to their round robin play they will destroy each other before the post season. Baylor looks great, but they've yet to play Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, and the only other Big 12 team without a conference loss Texas who by the way got their butts whipped by Ole Miss a team in 5th place in the SEC West.

So the obviousness is why I call this a troll thread and I'm warning you that if you persist with this garbage on the SEC board you'll be tossed. I didn't ban you before but I understood why those who did finally decided to do so. You promised to change before Bit reinstated you. I like you fine but find a way to participate that isn't designed to irritate or else.

i never said auburn was a bad program......

they just came from outta nowhere though cuz of a transfer future heisman trophy winner and the team then proceeded to crash & burn right after he left

Lot's of teams get Juco's and do just fine with them. Chizik was the problem and my family had personal knowledge of his lack of discipline. He micromanaged his assistants and lost them and the team. He's not cut out for a HC position but has a stellar record as a defensive coordinator. It was Jimmy Sexton's leverage over Auburn trustees who violated Tuberville's contract that cause Auburn to have to bail Chizik out of his Iowa State failures or face a lack of institutional control law suit on Tubby's behalf. Auburn paid out Tuberville's contract, bought his house and gave him the out he wanted to move. We agreed to take Chizik for 4 years. That's all he lasted. In my opinion Jay Jacobs the Auburn AD needs to be fired as well.

Malzahn ran the offense that won the national championship. It was his only year at Auburn until this year. Under Malzahn we are way ahead of schedule on recovering from the Chiz's meltdown. You want to tell me what the difference was? I think the difference was more of Malzahn's influence than even Newton's (although his raw talent is extremely evident). A pedestrian Auburn team with a weak linebacking corps and only one good corner is 7 - 1 and Malzahn has made a former Georgia cornerback into a very efficient QB in less than 5 months. Marshall couldn't hit a wide open receiver in the first two games but has progressively gotten better each game. His back up is looking pretty decent too although he doesn't have Marshall's foot speed.

John, I strongly suggest that you quit trying to create issues out of thin air and just stick to posting.

(10-28-2013 01:19 PM)john01992 Wrote:  i never said auburn was a bad program......

they just came from outta nowhere though cuz of a transfer future heisman trophy winner and the team then proceeded to crash & burn right after he left

Actually, Auburn crashed and burned because Gene Chizak was their coach, and he lost his offensive coordinator, Gus Malzahn, to Arkansas State. The fact that it coincided with Cam Newton's graduation is a minor detail that some people who don't know the whole picture have focused upon...

Auburn is back because they fired Gene Chizak, and hired Malzahn to replace him. It's not rocket science...

is cam really your traditional juco?????

i mean he did play at florida first

and im not trying to flame just posting some stats that i spent some time researching. i think they are pretty amazing. 13/14 ranked at any given time in the last year, 10 of them at 11 or higher is interesting no matter how you slice it. im just surprised that no one else mentioned this before

(10-28-2013 09:45 PM)john01992 Wrote:  is cam really your traditional juco?????

i mean he did play at florida first

and im not trying to flame just posting some stats that i spent some time researching. i think they are pretty amazing. 13/14 ranked at any given time in the last year, 10 of them at 11 or higher is interesting no matter how you slice it. im just surprised that no one else mentioned this before

They have... we hear it all the time.

(10-28-2013 09:45 PM)john01992 Wrote:  is cam really your traditional juco?????

i mean he did play at florida first

and im not trying to flame just posting some stats that i spent some time researching. i think they are pretty amazing. 13/14 ranked at any given time in the last year, 10 of them at 11 or higher is interesting no matter how you slice it. im just surprised that no one else mentioned this before

Juco's fall into several categories but most of them fall into just two. 1. Star kids that can't make their entry requirements in the schools with which they originally signed. 2. Problem children who need to mature before returning to a upper tier FBS school. (Problem children who won't reform or have too few years of eligibility remaining go to smaller FBS schools like Micheal Dyer.)

Cam was redshirted and then spent a year at Blynn before coming into Auburn with 3 years of eligibility left. He had one phenomenal year and turned pro. This is not atypical of star Juco players.

But your still pushing a non issue that has already been explained. I've been more than patient. Drop it and move on to another topic.

(10-28-2013 10:14 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-28-2013 09:45 PM)john01992 Wrote:  is cam really your traditional juco?????

i mean he did play at florida first

and im not trying to flame just posting some stats that i spent some time researching. i think they are pretty amazing. 13/14 ranked at any given time in the last year, 10 of them at 11 or higher is interesting no matter how you slice it. im just surprised that no one else mentioned this before

Juco's fall into several categories but most of them fall into just two. 1. Star kids that can't make their entry requirements in the schools with which they originally signed. 2. Problem children who need to mature before returning to a upper tier FBS school. (Problem children who won't reform or have too few years of eligibility remaining go to smaller FBS schools like Micheal Dyer.)

Cam was redshirted and then spent a year at Blynn before coming into Auburn with 3 years of eligibility left. He had one phenomenal year and turned pro. This is not atypical of star Juco players.

But your still pushing a non issue that has already been explained. I've been more than patient. Drop it and move on to another topic.

This entire thread was started just to provoke the SEC folks. Wasn't gonna say it earlier but I am now. Try to be a little less obvious next time John01992... Trolling 101