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(10-13-2013 08:41 AM)Dukes84 Wrote:  I believe and agree that Addullah appears to be a better runner than Scott. Scott can't seem to run effectively between the tackles and looks slow to me. Don't be surprised if he plays more slot receiver going forward.

Whenever Addullah came in there seemed to be a little more spark in the running game. DQ, I don't know, just doesn't seem to have the same burst in previous years. Is it because he bulked up some or has some kind of nagging injury? I'm tired of seeing him constantly try to bounce outside. A lot of times if he were to just follow how the play is being blocked he could pick up an easy four or five yards but instead tries to go outside and ends up getting nothing or taking a loss. He had 13 carries for 42 yards, but his long was 26 yards. So on his other 12 carries he only got 16 yards.
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(10-13-2013 03:09 PM)Purple Reign Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 02:01 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 01:45 PM)Dukes86 Wrote:  The thing that gets me about Reynolds is that he was so hyped up in the spring and summer after he moved there. I remember reading his name a lot during camps with Stoss et al praising his good play there. If he gets it all worked out, he'll be a force there with his size.

I agree.

His poor play (particularly on those long passes) got him benched, but let's not forget he also has 2 INTs, including returning one for a TD through the first 4 games. There is no question Taylor has tremendous physical talent, and he's only a RFR.
I think something to consider is that there is a big difference in performing well in practice and playing in a game.By now game films are out and a defensive coordinator has an idea on how to attack Reynolds.

I'd say Taylor's INT Pick 6 in his first college start is pretty darn real...as was the INT in the endzone to stop a UD drive.

We will see Taylor again...he has too much talent to keep down.
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I was unable to make the game yesterday, I had a wedding to attend. Got home and watched the DVR, and one of the things I found ironic is all of the trash-talking stupidity combined with the bone-headed penalties UR players were responsible for. All we ever hear from those sweater-vest clowns is how undisciplined and dirty our players are, yet it was their players picking up the unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. #2 literally didn't shut his yap the entire game, though he was burnt toast in the secondary all night. It was very satisfying to watch, all I wish is we could have played the 4th quarter as well as we played the 3rd.

One point I would like to make though, by no means did UR "almost win" that game. They did NOT have the ball with a chance to tie or take a lead, without that they didn't do anything but make the score look closer than it needed to.
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Taylor Reynolds is a very talented athlete. However, we could not afford to let him continue to get torched twice per game for long plays/TDs. He needs to learn how to play the position from the sideline, just like a freshman quarterback. IMO, Reynolds costs us two games. I understand that you learn to play by playing, but the position is too important to not understand that you don't let the receiver get behind you. He lacks the discipline to be consistently successful as a good corner, so far. Yes, he made a pick 6 and yes he was the lucky recipient of a pick in the endzone. In the first game when he was named CAA Rookie of the week due to the pick 6, I said then that people saw that, but didn't see him get beat time and time again. Coaches study the film and build their passing games around attacking him. Film doesn't lie. You may think I am being overly harsh on the kid. I am not. I know he is talented. Just being realistic based on what he has done. He takes too many chances and has to learn the bend but don't break.
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(10-13-2013 06:59 PM)JMUSteeler Wrote:  I was unable to make the game yesterday, I had a wedding to attend. Got home and watched the DVR, and one of the things I found ironic is all of the trash-talking stupidity combined with the bone-headed penalties UR players were responsible for. All we ever hear from those sweater-vest clowns is how undisciplined and dirty our players are, yet it was their players picking up the unsportsmanlike conduct penalties. #2 literally didn't shut his yap the entire game, though he was burnt toast in the secondary all night. It was very satisfying to watch, all I wish is we could have played the 4th quarter as well as we played the 3rd.

One point I would like to make though, by no means did UR "almost win" that game. They did NOT have the ball with a chance to tie or take a lead, without that they didn't do anything but make the score look closer than it needed to.

The lack of discipline from UR was very noticeable. In the student section we were yelling back and forth with some of the players and on multiple occasions we were flipped off and cursed at. Right after #15 had that big kickoff return for UR, he came roaring over to the sideline yelling "F#$k you f@ggots" and "fight me f@ggots" and was joined by a few teammates. We were giving it to them all game on the sideline but we didn't curse or use slurs like that ever, especially not with the police watching us like hawks. And of course we all saw what happened right at the end of the game. No discipline at all.
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(10-13-2013 08:56 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  looking at the box score.

they ran 88 plays, we ran 52

Kwe'shon Williams had 8 tackles. I remember hearing his name a few times on some good plays. he's a rFR.

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(10-13-2013 09:31 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Taylor Reynolds is a very talented athlete. However, we could not afford to let him continue to get torched twice per game for long plays/TDs. He needs to learn how to play the position from the sideline, just like a freshman quarterback. IMO, Reynolds costs us two games. I understand that you learn to play by playing, but the position is too important to not understand that you don't let the receiver get behind you. He lacks the discipline to be consistently successful as a good corner, so far. Yes, he made a pick 6 and yes he was the lucky recipient of a pick in the endzone. In the first game when he was named CAA Rookie of the week due to the pick 6, I said then that people saw that, but didn't see him get beat time and time again. Coaches study the film and build their passing games around attacking him. Film doesn't lie. You may think I am being overly harsh on the kid. I am not. I know he is talented. Just being realistic based on what he has done. He takes too many chances and has to learn the bend but don't break.

An rFr RB fumbling at the JMU 15 hurt JMU as much if not more in the Akron game as Reynolds play....
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Turnovers were even at 1 a piece. UR outgained JMU 487-346, but JMU actually had more yds through 3 qtrs before UR’s furious 4th qtr rally. JMU held UR to 9 points & 233 yds through the 1st 3 qtrs. Then UR got 22 points & 254 yds in a furious 4th qtr rally. After JMU went up 38-16 with 11+ min left in the game, someone apparently told the JMU players the game was over and forgot to tell the UR players….

UR came in with the #1 passing offense in the CAA, and the last place rushing offense, and it showed. JMU held UR to 64 yds rushing. On the other hand, not a good day for JMU’s secondary. Big UR OL avg about 6’5”/308. Not sure why they don’t have a better running game.

UR ran 88 plays. Stauss was 41 of 64, 423 yds, 2 TDs, 1 INT. Again, over half of that in the 4th qtr. Think the JMU defense got gassed in the 4th. I don’t recall ever seeing anyone attempt 64 passes against JMU. And that was after 1 of UR's 2 stud receivers, Stephen Barnette #29, got injured in the 1st qtr and didn't return....

The last 2 games JMU has added in a lot of play action, which has really helped their passing game, as Albany and esp UR have overplayed the run. Birdsong continues to get a little better every game. Was 25 of 40, 262 yds, 2 TDs passing, 1 rushing (plus another rushing that was called back due to a holding penalty), 1 INT.

Like I said, UR overplayed the run and did a very good job. Held JMU to 84 yds rushing. Held Dae’Quan Scott to 42 yds on 13 carries.

JMU 13 turnovers threw 1st 4 games. Only 3 through the last 3.....

2nd game in a row that Wilson gotten banged up at the "BS" position. Think Peter Rose came in for him. Other than that, I don't think there was any major injuries.
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(10-13-2013 09:31 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Taylor Reynolds is a very talented athlete. However, we could not afford to let him continue to get torched twice per game for long plays/TDs. He needs to learn how to play the position from the sideline, just like a freshman quarterback. IMO, Reynolds costs us two games. I understand that you learn to play by playing, but the position is too important to not understand that you don't let the receiver get behind you. He lacks the discipline to be consistently successful as a good corner, so far. Yes, he made a pick 6 and yes he was the lucky recipient of a pick in the endzone. In the first game when he was named CAA Rookie of the week due to the pick 6, I said then that people saw that, but didn't see him get beat time and time again. Coaches study the film and build their passing games around attacking him. Film doesn't lie. You may think I am being overly harsh on the kid. I am not. I know he is talented. Just being realistic based on what he has done. He takes too many chances and has to learn the bend but don't break.

I agree with everything you wrote, with the exception that Taylor cost us two games.

As already pointed out, a fumble by a rFr on JMU's 15 was equally as bad...as was a self-inflicted blocked punt also resulting in poor field position, personal fouls committed by Senior Captains, the inability of an OL to protect and a QB to get rid of a ball before committing grounding in the endzone...I could go on cherry-picking individual plays. These poor plays all contributed to close losses in games JMU might have/should have won.

In a team sport, it's not reasonable to lay the blame for a loss...or give credit for a win...to any one player.
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(10-14-2013 06:51 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(10-13-2013 09:31 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  Taylor Reynolds is a very talented athlete. However, we could not afford to let him continue to get torched twice per game for long plays/TDs. He needs to learn how to play the position from the sideline, just like a freshman quarterback. IMO, Reynolds costs us two games. I understand that you learn to play by playing, but the position is too important to not understand that you don't let the receiver get behind you. He lacks the discipline to be consistently successful as a good corner, so far. Yes, he made a pick 6 and yes he was the lucky recipient of a pick in the endzone. In the first game when he was named CAA Rookie of the week due to the pick 6, I said then that people saw that, but didn't see him get beat time and time again. Coaches study the film and build their passing games around attacking him. Film doesn't lie. You may think I am being overly harsh on the kid. I am not. I know he is talented. Just being realistic based on what he has done. He takes too many chances and has to learn the bend but don't break.

I agree with everything you wrote, with the exception that Taylor cost us two games.

As already pointed out, a fumble by a rFr on JMU's 15 was equally as bad...as was a self-inflicted blocked punt also resulting in poor field position, personal fouls committed by Senior Captains, the inability of an OL to protect and a QB to get rid of a ball before committing grounding in the endzone...I could go on cherry-picking individual plays. These poor plays all contributed to close losses in games JMU might have/should have won.

In a team sport, it's not reasonable to lay the blame for a loss...or give credit for a win...to any one player.

Obviously, a win or loss is a collection of plays that affect the outcome of a game. But, you could also say that given the poor plays you have cited, we may still have won the game had not Taylor gotten torched twice. They all add up and it is not fair of me to lay blame on one player. I'm just glad MM finally saw what opposing coaches saw when they study us on film.

When I was a junior in high school I missed two free throws in the District Championship game with 30 seconds to go in the game that would have sealed the deal. We lost by one point. I lay the blame squarely on my shoulders. A little 45 yr old catharsis therapy!
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BSKB's catharsis brings up an interesting angle. Most good athletes are harder on themselves than anyone else, I'll bet Taylor Reynolds would be the first to tell you he's got work to do. It's what makes good players become great players, we'll get to see what type of player he is by how he responds to this adversity. We've had players who didn't respond to that challenge, and they ultimately either left the program or became marginalized and replaced.
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The Good - JMU won the game
The Bad - JMU's rushing attack
The Ugly - the last eleven minutes of the 4th quarter
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(10-14-2013 05:45 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Turnovers were even at 1 a piece. UR outgained JMU 487-346, but JMU actually had more yds through 3 qtrs before UR’s furious 4th qtr rally. JMU held UR to 9 points & 233 yds through the 1st 3 qtrs. Then UR got 22 points & 254 yds in a furious 4th qtr rally. After JMU went up 38-16 with 11+ min left in the game, someone apparently told the JMU players the game was over and forgot to tell the UR players….

It's also worth pointing out that JMU had a big edge in the so-called hidden return yards thanks to the kick-off and INT return. It doesn't quite make up the entire descrepancy but gets it close.

Punting was about the same as both teams had a shank.
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(10-14-2013 09:36 AM)DooX Wrote:  
(10-14-2013 05:45 AM)BDKJMU Wrote:  Turnovers were even at 1 a piece. UR outgained JMU 487-346, but JMU actually had more yds through 3 qtrs before UR’s furious 4th qtr rally. JMU held UR to 9 points & 233 yds through the 1st 3 qtrs. Then UR got 22 points & 254 yds in a furious 4th qtr rally. After JMU went up 38-16 with 11+ min left in the game, someone apparently told the JMU players the game was over and forgot to tell the UR players….

It's also worth pointing out that JMU had a big edge in the so-called hidden return yards thanks to the kick-off and INT return. It doesn't quite make up the entire descrepancy but gets it close.

Punting was about the same as both teams had a shank.


the hidden yardage hurt us in the UD game. So I guess that evens it up.
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(10-13-2013 06:52 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  1) the 3rd and long scheme continues to baffle me. I just don't understand why MM won't bring the heat more often in these situations. our pass coverage is the weakest part of a very good defense. so why do you rush 3 or a passive 4 and give QB's all day to throw? OF COURSE someone is going to get open. It's the conservative, "don't give up the home run" mentality and it drives me nuts.

I just did a quick scan of the play-by-play and it looks like RU converted 6 of 12 3rd and long situations (7 or more yards). That's nuts. They were 9-19 for the game (10-19 if you include a missed 3rd, but then went for it on 4th and made it).

In contrast JMU was 2-13 for the game on all 3rd downs (or 3-13 with a made 4th down).
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Agree with what a lot has been said already.

The good:
1. Huge W! No matter how you cut it, winning a must win game against a conference rival who we have close games with constantly is a big W.
2. Passing game looked fantastic. Missed some plays, but the play calling was excellent early on keeping them off balance with repeated short passing plays in traditionally running situations. Called the deep pass plays on occassion when needed.
3. Finally got a kick return. Huge.
4. Robertson is an unbelievable talent. Even when not making a tackle, he is in the play in some capacity.

The bad:
The main problem was just finishing out the game. We had the game wrapped up midway through the 4th quarter and let them work their way back in. Agreed that they never technically had a chance to win it at the end, but they definitely had us worried going for an onside kick when we clearly should have closed them out earlier.
- Also, no way we should give up so many 3rd and longs early in the game. With our pass D as it stands, I'd rather see 5 guys rushing the passer to make them get rid of it earlier.

Regarding Reynolds, I'm still excited about his future and what he can get done over his career. I think this is a classic example of MM overhyping a player and raising our expectations of him (ie. - where he labels about 3 players per year on the team as best in the nation.). In this case, telling JMU Nation this guy is unbelievable after a spring ball season. The kid is a rFR and was transitioning from QB and basically has a spring ball and half season under his belt at CB. Yes, he has work to do, but so does everyone on the team. He'll get better. Maybe he doesn't deserve to start right now. I don't know, but he'll be a good player over time. It's not like anyone else in the defensive backfield really slowed them down either. For the record, I'm also fully in favor of Deandre Smith being a CB if he is one of the better options. We got a boatload of WR's and really don't have a gap there with our options or general offensive philosophy.

Big W, but still need some more to make the season a success.
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It should be noted that Mickey loudly pounded that table loudly during preseason with the statement that CB is the one position where a true freshman can play and is really not at a disadvantage due to age/experience.

I also agree that we would be undefeated if not for Reynolds getting beat in our losses.
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I would not be surprised to see Reynolds at WR at some point...that might be his best position still.
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(10-14-2013 01:44 PM)Dukes84 Wrote:  I would not be surprised to see Reynolds at WR at some point...that might be his best position still.

He does have great hands. Remember on his pick 6 he made a great catch with his hands on the sideline.

I do like his speed and hips at corner. Just needs to learn the position and get some experience. Either way, he's going to help this team over the next 3 years
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I really like the way this team is progressing. It seems that every week another Duke is named defensive, rookie or special teams player of the week.
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