(10-10-2013 09:13 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Big 12 round robin isn't that daunting. Most of the other higher profile teams in the conference are playing power teams.

You obviously don't understand what round-robin scheduling entails. Any chance you're an African-American Studies major at UNC?

It's disappointing that the system rewards teams who don't play anyone and hopefully it changes with the new selection committee but Baylor's just doing the smart thing and playing the system the right way. If they are one of two undefeated teams, they will go to the national championship game regardless of their schedule. If they had played Oregon or Stanford or LSU out of conference and lost, they would not. It's an absurd system but it's what we have right now.

(10-10-2013 09:51 PM)FreshPrinceOfDarkness Wrote:  

(10-10-2013 09:13 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Big 12 round robin isn't that daunting. Most of the other higher profile teams in the conference are playing power teams.

You obviously don't understand what round-robin scheduling entails. Any chance you're an African-American Studies major at UNC?

Wow, the pride of Lubbock here folks......

(10-10-2013 09:15 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Art Briles is the next UT coach

Look at those nonconference schedules again. Art has job security at Baylor. He'll never have another losing season there. He can stay as long as he wants, earning $2-3M a year, with very little pressure. He's the Bill Snyder of Baylor. Same type turnaround, same type scheduling philosophy.

Why would he want to trade that in for $4M a year at a job where he's got to lick a bunch of old white saggy bottoms, and god help him the first time he goes 7-5??

(10-10-2013 11:13 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(10-10-2013 09:15 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Art Briles is the next UT coach

Look at those nonconference schedules again. Art has job security at Baylor. He'll never have another losing season there. He can stay as long as he wants, earning $2-3M a year, with very little pressure. He's the Bill Snyder of Baylor. Same type turnaround, same type scheduling philosophy.

Why would he want to trade that in for $4M a year at a job where he's got to lick a bunch of old white saggy bottoms, and god help him the first time he goes 7-5??

Baylor is saving guarantee fees at the expense of paying for a football stadium and running the rest of a non-public athletic program. If Wake Forest, Boston C, or any number of Big 10 schools had a schedule with similar difficulty, no one would question it.

(10-10-2013 09:51 PM)FreshPrinceOfDarkness Wrote:  

(10-10-2013 09:13 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Big 12 round robin isn't that daunting. Most of the other higher profile teams in the conference are playing power teams.

You obviously don't understand what round-robin scheduling entails. Any chance you're an African-American Studies major at UNC?

I understand exactly what it is. AAC does that too, so does that mean their schedules are tougher? Of course not. Try again...

(10-10-2013 08:58 PM)jaminandjachin Wrote:  Baylor's offense is great and they are fun to watch. However, I can't take them seriously with this non-conference schedule:

2013
08/31 - Wofford
09/07 - Buffalo
09/21 - ULM

2014
08/30 - SMU
09/06 - Northwestern State
09/13 - at Buffalo

2015
09/05 - at SMU
09/12 - Lamar
09/26 - Rice

2016
09/03 - Northwestern State
09/17 - SMU
09/24 - at Rice

2017
09/02 - at SMU
09/09 - UTSA
09/23 - Duke

2018
09/08 - at UTSA
09/15 - at Duke
09/22 - SMU

2019
08/31 - at SMU
09/07 - UTSA
09/14 - at Rice

So in 7 years, the ONLY power conference team they play is DUKE. Ridiculous.

Yes, North Carolina is much like Kentucky, they play games against power conference teams in football, but rarely beat them. So your point is? Below NC OOC since 2002 with yearly OOC record plus record for year

2002 2-2/3-9
Miami, OH lost 27-21
Syracuse won 30-22
Texas lost 52-21
Arizona State won 38-35

2003 1-3/2-10
Syracuse lost 49-47
Wisconsin lost 38-27
East Carolina won 38-17
Arizona State lost 33-31

2004 1-2/6-6
William & Mary won 49-38
Louisville lost 34-0
Utah lost 46-16

2005 1/2/5-6
Wisconsin lost 14-5
Utah won 31-17
Louisville lost 69-14

2006 1-3/3-9
Rutgers lost 21-16
Furman won 45-42
color=#FF0000]South Florida[/color] lost 37-20

Notre Dame lost 45-26

2007 1-3/4-8
James Madison won 37-14
East Carolina lost 34-31
South Florida lost 37-10
color=#FF0000]South Carolina[/color] lost 21-15

2008 4-0/8-5
McNeese State won 35-27
Rutgers won 44-12
Connecticut won 38-12
Notre Dame Won 29-24

20094-0/ 8-5
Citadel won 40-6
Connecticut won 12-10
East Carolina won 31-17
Georgia Southern won 42-12

2010 3-0/8-5
LSU lost 30-24
Rutgers won 17-13
East Carolina won 42-17
William & Mary won 21-17

2011 4-0/7-6
James Madison won 42-10
Rutgers won 24-22
East Carolina won 35-20
Louisville won 14-7

2012 3-1/8-4
Elon Won 60-0
Louisville lost 39-34
East Carolina won 27-6
Idaho won 66-0

2013 1-2/1-4
South Carolina lost 27-10
Middle Tennessee won 40-20
East Carolina lost 55-31
Old Dominion TBD

(10-10-2013 10:16 PM)MKPitt Wrote:  It's disappointing that the system rewards teams who don't play anyone and hopefully it changes with the new selection committee but Baylor's just doing the smart thing and playing the system the right way. If they are one of two undefeated teams, they will go to the national championship game regardless of their schedule. If they had played Oregon or Stanford or LSU out of conference and lost, they would not. It's an absurd system but it's what we have right now.

As much as I hate to agree with a Pitt fan, you hit the nail on the head here. The present system is setup to reward those teams that run the slate unbeaten, and Baylor is merely taking advantage of that. The new playoff system is supposed to reward more difficult schedules, if they stick to their guns. If that is the case, we'll see a lot of adjustment coming on several schools schedules. We've already seen that happen with teams that have changed conferences. Will we see more with the playoff? We shall see. It depends on whether or not teams will be penalized for having such weak OOC schedules...

WVU is eliminating body bag games in the future. The last one currently on our schedule is the 2015 game against Liberty, and I hope that game disappears in favor of somebody better. But starting in 2016 (BYU, Maryland, ECU), it's all FBS level schools...

What we need is at least an 8 team playoff.

(10-11-2013 08:22 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  What we need is at least an 8 team playoff.

Let's see how the playoff works before we start talking about changing it. After all, if you push for change too fast, they could simply revert back to the old system, due to all the dissatisfaction with the playoff setup...

We'll know in due time as their final five games are against the best the Big XII has to offer.

Right now I'd bet a nickle they win the Big XII.

(10-11-2013 02:31 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  We'll know in due time as their final five games are against the best the Big XII has to offer.

Right now I'd bet a nickle they win the Big XII.

Had you bet earlier in the season, your nickle would have paid out much more when the odds were longer. Baylor is one of the favorites now...

A agree that their OOC schedules are an embarrassment, but I do believe they have a high powered offense this year. Getting the transfer, Seastrunk, from Oregon has really helped them this year. It will be quite an interesting Baylor-Oklahoma game.

Art very well could be the Texas coach next year. They certainly could do worse.

(10-11-2013 02:41 PM)Big Frog II Wrote:  A agree that their OOC schedules are an embarrassment, but I do believe they have a high powered offense this year. Getting the transfer, Seastrunk, from Oregon has really helped them this year. It will be quite an interesting Baylor-Oklahoma game.

Art very well could be the Texas coach next year. They certainly could do worse.

No kidding. He's averaging over 11 ypc. Imagine what kind of yardage he'd have if he averaged more than 15 carries per game. He hasn't played in the 2nd half of any game this season so far...

(10-11-2013 02:46 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-11-2013 02:41 PM)Big Frog II Wrote:  A agree that their OOC schedules are an embarrassment, but I do believe they have a high powered offense this year. Getting the transfer, Seastrunk, from Oregon has really helped them this year. It will be quite an interesting Baylor-Oklahoma game.

Art very well could be the Texas coach next year. They certainly could do worse.

No kidding. He's averaging over 11 ypc. Imagine what kind of yardage he'd have if he averaged more than 15 carries per game. He hasn't played in the 2nd half of any game this season so far...

Well after watching the Kansas State game this team is beatable. Texas Tech did what it took to win but they looked beatable as well. We'll see.

(10-13-2013 12:06 AM)JRsec Wrote:  Well after watching the Kansas State game this team is beatable. Texas Tech did what it took to win but they looked beatable as well. We'll see.

Yes, they sure did.

But, scoreboard is what matters.

Stanford shot its load last week, for example.

Even Tom Osborne's last team, the 13-0 team that rolled Peyton Manning and Co., had such close calls as a 38-24 win over Daunte Culpepper and his 2nd year in D1 UCF squad...along with a 3-pointer over a 5-6 Colorado team, too.

It happens. Familiarity, emotional ups and downs...it would be easier if players were robots, no? Yeah.

(10-13-2013 12:06 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-11-2013 02:46 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-11-2013 02:41 PM)Big Frog II Wrote:  A agree that their OOC schedules are an embarrassment, but I do believe they have a high powered offense this year. Getting the transfer, Seastrunk, from Oregon has really helped them this year. It will be quite an interesting Baylor-Oklahoma game.

Art very well could be the Texas coach next year. They certainly could do worse.

No kidding. He's averaging over 11 ypc. Imagine what kind of yardage he'd have if he averaged more than 15 carries per game. He hasn't played in the 2nd half of any game this season so far...

Well after watching the Kansas State game this team is beatable. Texas Tech did what it took to win but they looked beatable as well. We'll see.

If we stop ourselves on 1/3 of our drives... yeah. Defense needs some work but if we are anywhere close to playing a clean game on offense this game is over in the 3rd. Poor execution.

(10-13-2013 03:01 AM)S11 Wrote:  

(10-13-2013 12:06 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-11-2013 02:46 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(10-11-2013 02:41 PM)Big Frog II Wrote:  A agree that their OOC schedules are an embarrassment, but I do believe they have a high powered offense this year. Getting the transfer, Seastrunk, from Oregon has really helped them this year. It will be quite an interesting Baylor-Oklahoma game.

Art very well could be the Texas coach next year. They certainly could do worse.

No kidding. He's averaging over 11 ypc. Imagine what kind of yardage he'd have if he averaged more than 15 carries per game. He hasn't played in the 2nd half of any game this season so far...

Well after watching the Kansas State game this team is beatable. Texas Tech did what it took to win but they looked beatable as well. We'll see.

If we stop ourselves on 1/3 of our drives... yeah. Defense needs some work but if we are anywhere close to playing a clean game on offense this game is over in the 3rd. Poor execution.

I wish Baylor had dropped passes against WVU like they did against K-State...

Ah well. I guess we'll have to settle for upsetting TT next Saturday...