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RE: The Big 12 will blow up soon. (My Prediction)
(10-09-2013 09:33 PM)bullet Wrote:  Given the thread on Fox overnight ratings, No Big 12 school will be joining the Pac. Fox is getting killed with their Pac games.

The PAC will expand into Texas in the future because TV will demand it.
10-09-2013 09:39 PM
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RE: The Big 12 will blow up soon. (My Prediction)
(10-09-2013 09:39 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  
(10-09-2013 09:33 PM)bullet Wrote:  Given the thread on Fox overnight ratings, No Big 12 school will be joining the Pac. Fox is getting killed with their Pac games.

The PAC will expand into Texas in the future because TV will demand it.

So why does Texas want to go east?
10-09-2013 09:43 PM
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RE: The Big 12 will blow up soon. (My Prediction)
Ditching BU and TCU won't be as easy as you think...but it should be entertaining
10-09-2013 10:28 PM
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RE: The Big 12 will blow up soon. (My Prediction)
(10-09-2013 09:28 PM)jml2010 Wrote:  
(10-09-2013 08:38 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(10-09-2013 08:36 PM)Knightsweat Wrote:  
(10-09-2013 08:12 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(10-09-2013 08:10 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Are you sure Texas can go independent? I'm not. The Texas legislature have to realize this is the first step in Texas cutting the other schools out of the picture...

Texas simply does not care about the other schools.....

Man, you know nothing about Texas politics. If you think those other Texas schools don't have the stroke to make UT's life hell, you're very much mistaken.

I'm wondering if UT has a hand shake deal with A&M since Texas didn't raise a fuss when they left. UT knew they would be left holding the bag.

UT AND Baylor threw a hissy fit when aggy left. The only school that didn't say a word was Texas Tech. As for as Texas politics go, why in the world would the Texas Leg care about private schools in Waco and Ft. Worth. Bob Bullock isn't getting out of his grave to save Baylor and Ken Starr can only spew his "Baylor being left out hurts the Texas economy" crud for so long. Universities in Dallas and Houston will rightfully laugh at that considering the hand they have been dealt the last 19 years.

For better or worse, UT and Texas Tech are tied to each other. UT and a couple of PAC schools are helping Tech prepare for AAU inclusion in the future. As long as 8 members of the Big 12 find a home, the Big 12 is dead and I hope it happens sooner than later.

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao:lmfao:They can "prep" Texas Tech all they want for AAU inclusion. Tech is at least 100 years away from consideration
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10-09-2013 10:35 PM
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RE: The Big 12 will blow up soon. (My Prediction)
The geography of Texas going west does not work as well as joining a conference with teams in the central time zone. This is why they like the big 12.

this also why I believe they will eventually join the SEC despite cultural differences and academic differences. If they can end up in a Division, with A&M, oklahoma and missouri, and lets say LSU, Arky, that would be an improvement over the current big 12.
10-09-2013 10:40 PM
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RE: The Big 12 will blow up soon. (My Prediction)
(10-09-2013 04:38 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  
(10-09-2013 04:33 PM)lew240z Wrote:  Since we're engaging in fantasies, Virginia, North Carolina, Duke and Georgia Tech go to the B1G to make 18. Then Florida State, Miami, Clemson, NC State, Wake Forest, Virginia Tech, Louisville, and Boston College go the Big 12 to make 18. Or, maybe, NC State and VT go to the SEC and the SEC and Big 12 both are at 16. Syracuse and goes to the AAC. Notre Dame, as usual, will do whatever it wants.
Why not go a step further? Leave UNC out of it altogether. No conference should want a school that promotes academic excellence while offering fake classes for many of their students - including ALL their athletes...

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10-09-2013 11:35 PM
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I would think that the PAC12 would still want Texas, Texas Tech, OU and OSU; who wouldn't? I think that PAC12 expansion is the only way that the B12 disbands.

I'm still surprised that they've passed on BYU (which would have made more sense than WVU- no offense Mountaineer fans).
10-10-2013 12:08 AM
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(10-10-2013 12:08 AM)Ned Low Wrote:  I'm still surprised that they've passed on BYU (which would have made more sense than WVU- no offense Mountaineer fans).

We didn't pass on BYU, they weren't very interested at the time; they were trying to become the independent-minded Notre Dame of the west.

But things change; ND is now in a conference, and BYU will be too someday.
10-10-2013 05:53 AM
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RE: The Big 12 will blow up soon. (My Prediction)
Ok, it's settled, a new conference has been formed. The new members are:

Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State
TCU
Texas Tech
West Virginia
Cincinnati
Boise State
South Florida
Central Florida
Baylor



Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas leave for the PAC 12
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(10-09-2013 03:42 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(10-09-2013 03:20 PM)ECUPirated Wrote:  [Image: balloon.gif]

Beautiful. If only she wouldn't have dropped the balloon on her self and we could see the real shock on her face!

If only the balloon was filled with milk.
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(10-10-2013 05:53 AM)PlayBall! Wrote:  
(10-10-2013 12:08 AM)Ned Low Wrote:  I'm still surprised that they've passed on BYU (which would have made more sense than WVU- no offense Mountaineer fans).

We didn't pass on BYU, they weren't very interested at the time; they were trying to become the independent-minded Notre Dame of the west.

But things change; ND is now in a conference, and BYU will be too someday.

BYU is in a conference just like Notre Dame is.
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(10-09-2013 10:40 PM)goofus Wrote:  The geography of Texas going west does not work as well as joining a conference with teams in the central time zone. This is why they like the big 12.

this also why I believe they will eventually join the SEC despite cultural differences and academic differences. If they can end up in a Division, with A&M, oklahoma and missouri, and lets say LSU, Arky, that would be an improvement over the current big 12.

Exactly. 04-rock
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Agree adding Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC West would be a brilliant move by the SEC!

SEC West
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Arkansas
Missouri
LSU
Mississippi
Mississippi State

SEC East
Kentucky
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida
Alabama
Auburn
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Sounds great to outsiders but I don't see the SEC West teams voting to turn the division into that unwinnable meat grinder.

UT and OU won't be in the SEC.
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(10-10-2013 08:18 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Agree adding Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC West would be a brilliant move by the SEC!

SEC West
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Arkansas
Missouri
LSU
Mississippi
Mississippi State

SEC East
Kentucky
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida
Alabama
Auburn

A&M, Ark, LSU and Mizzou vote no just on general principle. UGA, UF, UTK, SCAR vote no b/c none of them want to deal with a realignment that puts 'Bama in the SEC East. You might get the East schools to stand down if you only moved Auburn and kept Mizzou in the East, but that's still 3-4 guaranteed no votes. As SEC expansions requires unanimous approval (either yes or abstain), this dream would be DOA.
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(10-10-2013 08:26 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  Sounds great to outsiders but I don't see the SEC West teams voting to turn the division into that unwinnable meat grinder.

UT and OU won't be in the SEC.

I think they wouldn't hesitate to vote yes. But it would be a bad move for nearly everyone. The schedule would be too tough in both divisions.
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(10-10-2013 08:18 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Agree adding Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC West would be a brilliant move by the SEC!

SEC West
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Arkansas
Missouri
LSU
Mississippi
Mississippi State

SEC East
Kentucky
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida
Alabama
Auburn

I guess you could go to pods with everyone getting 1 permanent rival

SW pod (perm rival)
Missouri (arky)
A &M (LSU)
Texas (vanderbilt)
Oklahoma (MSU)

River pod
LSU (A & M)
Arky (Mo.)
Mississippi (FLA)
MSU (oklahoma)

Central pod
Tenn (Georgia)
Vandy (Texas)
KY (S. CAR.)
Alabama (auburn)

Southeast pod
Auburn (Bama)
Florida (Ole Miss)
S. Car. (KY)
Georgia (Tenn)
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RE: The Big 12 will blow up soon. (My Prediction)
Its possible the big 12 could cease to being around but it would take the pac 12 jumping to 18 or 20 with 6-8 big 12 school's.
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(10-10-2013 09:12 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(10-10-2013 08:26 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  Sounds great to outsiders but I don't see the SEC West teams voting to turn the division into that unwinnable meat grinder.

UT and OU won't be in the SEC.

I think they wouldn't hesitate to vote yes. But it would be a bad move for nearly everyone. The schedule would be too tough in both divisions.

Good point Bullet, and thats exactly why I think they dont vote yes.

OU and UT are great adds on paper but if they are in the West there are too many teams in there that are used to/feel entitled to 9+ win seasons that would be cut down to 7 or less win seasons that are unacceptable to their fan bases.

The ones who will especially be hurt are MS teams who get no benefit and are looking at 6-7 loss seasons every years.

Thats why I think there is an understanding that neither side (SEC West and UT/OU) even want this to come to a vote.
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