Do you think we will see a deja vu worst call in the history of college football at the end of our game again with the ole halfback pass in the pouring rain back to the quarterback like we tried against Louisville last year?

(10-03-2013 01:06 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Do you think we will see a deja vu worst call in the history of college football at the end of our game again with the ole halfback pass in the pouring rain back to the quarterback like we tried against Louisville last year?

Nope. I think it will be a 28-3 arse kicking by the Golden Eagles much like ECU's 28-3 arse kicking over #8 WVU back in 2008 after we got nailed by a Hurricane.

Think of it as just washing away the bad juju.

Take advantage of the winds...will be good for throwing 60+ yard with ease.

(10-03-2013 01:06 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Do you think we will see a deja vu worst call in the history of college football at the end of our game again with the ole halfback pass in the pouring rain back to the quarterback like we tried against Louisville last year?

You need to let it go. That playcall was better than your stated plan of having Anthony Alford drop back and impersonate Dan Marino... in a driving rain... behind one of the worst lines in FBS. Coach Buckley tried to pull a victory out of his *** that night and it almost worked. That guy's still on the staff, by the way, and "worst call in history" notwithstanding, the Ellis Johnson Eagle Wannabes played good teams much closer than the Todd Monken Eagle Wannabes have. None of this is pleasant, but it's all factual, and you brought it up.

(10-03-2013 05:26 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 01:06 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Do you think we will see a deja vu worst call in the history of college football at the end of our game again with the ole halfback pass in the pouring rain back to the quarterback like we tried against Louisville last year?

You need to let it go. That playcall was better than your stated plan of having Anthony Alford drop back and impersonate Dan Marino... in a driving rain... behind one of the worst lines in FBS. Coach Buckley tried to pull a victory out of his *** that night and it almost worked. That guy's still on the staff, by the way, and "worst call in history" notwithstanding, the Ellis Johnson Eagle Wannabes played good teams much closer than the Todd Monken Eagle Wannabes have. None of this is pleasant, but it's all factual, and you brought it up.

Ricky Lloyd was actually the QB leading the team down the field, and he had just thrown the best pass all night a few plays earlier. And the OL last year was actually quite good. There were 4 SR starters, most (if not all) of which started on the championship team the previous year. That was a jr high play call. To expect a RB to be able to throw a heavy, water-drenched football and expect your QB to catch the aforementioned football, while also think you can fool the defense with that play on an obvious passing down was ridiculous. And they even called timeout to discuss what play to run. Last year was just a great example of the phrase "you cant fix stupid". That was just another great example of the comedy of errors that e12Loss brought to H'burg. I'm so glad he's gone.

Yes, Buckley is still on staff, but he is not involved with any on-the-field coaching. He is strictly recruiting. I respect Buckley, and think he just ended up in a horrible situation last year, way over his head.

(10-03-2013 06:06 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 05:26 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 01:06 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Do you think we will see a deja vu worst call in the history of college football at the end of our game again with the ole halfback pass in the pouring rain back to the quarterback like we tried against Louisville last year?

You need to let it go. That playcall was better than your stated plan of having Anthony Alford drop back and impersonate Dan Marino... in a driving rain... behind one of the worst lines in FBS. Coach Buckley tried to pull a victory out of his *** that night and it almost worked. That guy's still on the staff, by the way, and "worst call in history" notwithstanding, the Ellis Johnson Eagle Wannabes played good teams much closer than the Todd Monken Eagle Wannabes have. None of this is pleasant, but it's all factual, and you brought it up.

Ricky Lloyd was actually the QB leading the team down the field, and he had just thrown the best pass all night a few plays earlier. And the OL last year was actually quite good. There were 4 SR starters, most (if not all) of which started on the championship team the previous year. That was a jr high play call. To expect a RB to be able to throw a heavy, water-drenched football and expect your QB to catch the aforementioned football, while also think you can fool the defense with that play on an obvious passing down was ridiculous. And they even called timeout to discuss what play to run. Last year was just a great example of the phrase "you cant fix stupid". That was just another great example of the comedy of errors that e12Loss brought to H'burg. I'm so glad he's gone.

Yes, Buckley is still on staff, but he is not involved with any on-the-field coaching. He is strictly recruiting. I respect Buckley, and think he just ended up in a horrible situation last year, way over his head.

OK, it was Lloyd... but that pass you mentioned was just about his only completion of the fourth quarter. We ran the ball something like 10 straight times, and there were damned good reasons for that. Then, we surprised them with a pass, and it worked that one time. But there was no surprising them again with a (traditional) pass on the last play. It was 4th-and-long.

And give Buckley some credit for even getting them down the field. As I said, he pulled a close game against a damned good opponent right out of his ***. This "worst play call in history" crap is just that: crap. He was faced with a situation that demanded creativity, and he exercised his creativity, and it didn't work. Anything Buckley could have called would have had a 5-10% chance of working, at best.

Beyond that, why are we talking about a desperation play call in a close loss that really shouldn't cause us any embarrassment? I don't think Ellis Johnson has ever given up 60 points in a game in his whole career. He didn't at USM. Ellis Johnson was only held under 10 points one time at USM.

If you want my honest opinion, I think nastybunch and a whole bunch of other posters here have hidden agendas. For whatever reason, they're shills for some element of the status quo. They're athletic department employees, or they're donors, or they work for donors, or they're just shills whose egos someone at the athletic department has stroked. Nobody without some kind of agenda would say or even believe some of the crap I see on this board.

Ellis Johnson also had much better talent on his team than Monken has. If EJ hires a decent S&C coach and doesn't try to force Alford on everyone when Campbell and Favor were clearly better options we win 7-8 games last year. Hire Monken last year we win conference probably and have a better chance of a good year this year. And yes that play was dumb as hell it barely worked at practice against air. Desmond Johnson was not by any means a thrower

(10-03-2013 08:14 PM)rebel26 Wrote:  Ellis Johnson also had much better talent on his team than Monken has. If EJ hires a decent S&C coach and doesn't try to force Alford on everyone when Campbell and Favor were clearly better options we win 7-8 games last year. Hire Monken last year we win conference probably and have a better chance of a good year this year. And yes that play was dumb as hell it barely worked at practice against air. Desmond Johnson was not by any means a thrower

I agree with most of that, but going into this season, I did think that our RBs were much better than what I've seen. I don't completely agree that we're just too lacking in talent to play with people. You can see that Kendrick Hardy (is he still healthy?) is a threat... as is Ricky Bradley. The CB we had to put in versus Arkansas (Wilkins?) is clearly a player. We don't have the luxury of having a bunch of players who've performed before to put in, but there are people who can be coached up on the roster.

As for the Louisville play, I think it really depends on your perspective. Do you think there was some better play call that had even, say, a 1 in 4 chance of working (in the rain, against Louisville, on 4th and long, etc.)? If you think there was, then what Buckley called was stupid. I just can't imagine what that other play would be, though, and when people like nastybunch try and answer this question, I'm not convinced by what they say.

(10-03-2013 07:51 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 06:06 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 05:26 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 01:06 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Do you think we will see a deja vu worst call in the history of college football at the end of our game again with the ole halfback pass in the pouring rain back to the quarterback like we tried against Louisville last year?

You need to let it go. That playcall was better than your stated plan of having Anthony Alford drop back and impersonate Dan Marino... in a driving rain... behind one of the worst lines in FBS. Coach Buckley tried to pull a victory out of his *** that night and it almost worked. That guy's still on the staff, by the way, and "worst call in history" notwithstanding, the Ellis Johnson Eagle Wannabes played good teams much closer than the Todd Monken Eagle Wannabes have. None of this is pleasant, but it's all factual, and you brought it up.

Ricky Lloyd was actually the QB leading the team down the field, and he had just thrown the best pass all night a few plays earlier. And the OL last year was actually quite good. There were 4 SR starters, most (if not all) of which started on the championship team the previous year. That was a jr high play call. To expect a RB to be able to throw a heavy, water-drenched football and expect your QB to catch the aforementioned football, while also think you can fool the defense with that play on an obvious passing down was ridiculous. And they even called timeout to discuss what play to run. Last year was just a great example of the phrase "you cant fix stupid". That was just another great example of the comedy of errors that e12Loss brought to H'burg. I'm so glad he's gone.

Yes, Buckley is still on staff, but he is not involved with any on-the-field coaching. He is strictly recruiting. I respect Buckley, and think he just ended up in a horrible situation last year, way over his head.

OK, it was Lloyd... but that pass you mentioned was just about his only completion of the fourth quarter. We ran the ball something like 10 straight times, and there were damned good reasons for that. Then, we surprised them with a pass, and it worked that one time. But there was no surprising them again with a (traditional) pass on the last play. It was 4th-and-long.

And give Buckley some credit for even getting them down the field. As I said, he pulled a close game against a damned good opponent right out of his ***. This "worst play call in history" crap is just that: crap. He was faced with a situation that demanded creativity, and he exercised his creativity, and it didn't work. Anything Buckley could have called would have had a 5-10% chance of working, at best.

Beyond that, why are we talking about a desperation play call in a close loss that really shouldn't cause us any embarrassment? I don't think Ellis Johnson has ever given up 60 points in a game in his whole career. He didn't at USM. Ellis Johnson was only held under 10 points one time at USM.

If you want my honest opinion, I think nastybunch and a whole bunch of other posters here have hidden agendas. For whatever reason, they're shills for some element of the status quo. They're athletic department employees, or they're donors, or they work for donors, or they're just shills whose egos someone at the athletic department has stroked. Nobody without some kind of agenda would say or even believe some of the crap I see on this board.

That was about the stupidest off base post you have ever made. A donor has an agenda? The difference in you and nasty is he IS a donor and has been for longer than you have been alive. That gives him the right to an opinion. The right a non donor doesn't have.

(10-03-2013 10:45 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 07:51 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 06:06 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 05:26 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 01:06 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Do you think we will see a deja vu worst call in the history of college football at the end of our game again with the ole halfback pass in the pouring rain back to the quarterback like we tried against Louisville last year?

You need to let it go. That playcall was better than your stated plan of having Anthony Alford drop back and impersonate Dan Marino... in a driving rain... behind one of the worst lines in FBS. Coach Buckley tried to pull a victory out of his *** that night and it almost worked. That guy's still on the staff, by the way, and "worst call in history" notwithstanding, the Ellis Johnson Eagle Wannabes played good teams much closer than the Todd Monken Eagle Wannabes have. None of this is pleasant, but it's all factual, and you brought it up.

Ricky Lloyd was actually the QB leading the team down the field, and he had just thrown the best pass all night a few plays earlier. And the OL last year was actually quite good. There were 4 SR starters, most (if not all) of which started on the championship team the previous year. That was a jr high play call. To expect a RB to be able to throw a heavy, water-drenched football and expect your QB to catch the aforementioned football, while also think you can fool the defense with that play on an obvious passing down was ridiculous. And they even called timeout to discuss what play to run. Last year was just a great example of the phrase "you cant fix stupid". That was just another great example of the comedy of errors that e12Loss brought to H'burg. I'm so glad he's gone.

Yes, Buckley is still on staff, but he is not involved with any on-the-field coaching. He is strictly recruiting. I respect Buckley, and think he just ended up in a horrible situation last year, way over his head.

OK, it was Lloyd... but that pass you mentioned was just about his only completion of the fourth quarter. We ran the ball something like 10 straight times, and there were damned good reasons for that. Then, we surprised them with a pass, and it worked that one time. But there was no surprising them again with a (traditional) pass on the last play. It was 4th-and-long.

And give Buckley some credit for even getting them down the field. As I said, he pulled a close game against a damned good opponent right out of his ***. This "worst play call in history" crap is just that: crap. He was faced with a situation that demanded creativity, and he exercised his creativity, and it didn't work. Anything Buckley could have called would have had a 5-10% chance of working, at best.

Beyond that, why are we talking about a desperation play call in a close loss that really shouldn't cause us any embarrassment? I don't think Ellis Johnson has ever given up 60 points in a game in his whole career. He didn't at USM. Ellis Johnson was only held under 10 points one time at USM.

If you want my honest opinion, I think nastybunch and a whole bunch of other posters here have hidden agendas. For whatever reason, they're shills for some element of the status quo. They're athletic department employees, or they're donors, or they work for donors, or they're just shills whose egos someone at the athletic department has stroked. Nobody without some kind of agenda would say or even believe some of the crap I see on this board.

That was about the stupidest off base post you have ever made. A donor has an agenda? The difference in you and nasty is he IS a donor and has been for longer than you have been alive. That gives him the right to an opinion. The right a non donor doesn't have.

I've given thousands, maybe tens of thousands to the Eagle Club over the years. More importantly, I'm the kind of alum USM needs, i.e. the kind that wouldn't ever put on an LSU or MSU shirt or pretend to be one of their fans just to fit in. But I don't have any agenda other than the success of my school and my team, and that cannot be said of everyone here. There are definitely posters here - from USM and from other schools - who have other agendas. They're posting to make their boss look good, or the guy who fed them "inside" information look good, or the assistant coach who remembered their name look good. Jeff Hammond had a whole "army" of these shills. If you don't realize that, you've got your head in the sand. Look at what nastybunch posted and how stupid and off-topic it is. Something's going on there that's not explicable in terms of pure USM fanhood.

If everyone at USM were rowing the boat in the right direction (or, at least, had their oars lifted politely out of the water), we wouldn't be having this conversation... at least, we wouldn't be having it on the Impostor CUSA message board.

(10-03-2013 06:06 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 05:26 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 01:06 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Do you think we will see a deja vu worst call in the history of college football at the end of our game again with the ole halfback pass in the pouring rain back to the quarterback like we tried against Louisville last year?

You need to let it go. That playcall was better than your stated plan of having Anthony Alford drop back and impersonate Dan Marino... in a driving rain... behind one of the worst lines in FBS. Coach Buckley tried to pull a victory out of his *** that night and it almost worked. That guy's still on the staff, by the way, and "worst call in history" notwithstanding, the Ellis Johnson Eagle Wannabes played good teams much closer than the Todd Monken Eagle Wannabes have. None of this is pleasant, but it's all factual, and you brought it up.

Ricky Lloyd was actually the QB leading the team down the field, and he had just thrown the best pass all night a few plays earlier. And the OL last year was actually quite good. There were 4 SR starters, most (if not all) of which started on the championship team the previous year. That was a jr high play call. To expect a RB to be able to throw a heavy, water-drenched football and expect your QB to catch the aforementioned football, while also think you can fool the defense with that play on an obvious passing down was ridiculous. And they even called timeout to discuss what play to run. Last year was just a great example of the phrase "you cant fix stupid". That was just another great example of the comedy of errors that e12Loss brought to H'burg. I'm so glad he's gone.

Yes, Buckley is still on staff, but he is not involved with any on-the-field coaching. He is strictly recruiting. I respect Buckley, and think he just ended up in a horrible situation last year, way over his head.

You gotta understand andrewhere actually liked this call to give you a little perspective on him....ROTFLOL!.

(10-04-2013 11:40 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  If e12Loss Johnson had never been hired at USM, we wouldn't be having this conversation... at least, we wouldn't be having it on the Impostor CUSA message board.

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