The stats from 2012 show Archer had only 15 yards on 12 carries

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/footbal...l#boxscore

That doesn't seem quite right. Was he injured for that game or did our D contain him that well?

(10-03-2013 11:51 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  The stats from 2012 show Archer had only 15 yards on 12 carries

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/footbal...l#boxscore

That doesn't seem quite right. Was he he injured for that game or did our D contain him that well?

That seems close. They had numerous TFLs on him. He really only had a 15 yd gain on the ground, which IMO was a hold.

They said he had an ankle sprain, but he looked fine. He broke one pass play with a great catch for like 60 yards. He was contained all game.

That is correct. He did nothing on the ground other than his reverse. He really did nothing all game other than the long catch he had.

(10-03-2013 12:08 PM)7 Wrote:  That is correct. He did nothing on the ground other than his reverse. He really did nothing all game other than the long catch he had.

Let's hope our D can contain him the same way on Saturday. It seems like he's their only offensive weapon.

We did refuse to kick to him, and KSU's field position was absolutely ridiculous. First choice, kick it out the end zone, but do not kick it to 30 or 35 to avoid him.

(10-03-2013 11:54 AM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 11:51 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  The stats from 2012 show Archer had only 15 yards on 12 carries

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/footbal...l#boxscore

That doesn't seem quite right. Was he he injured for that game or did our D contain him that well?

That seems close. They had numerous TFLs on him. He really only had a 15 yd gain on the ground, which IMO was a hold.

They said he had an ankle sprain, but he looked fine. He broke one pass play with a great catch for like 60 yards. He was contained all game.

Damn I can still see that blatant hold on that play as well. Part of the lets throw no flags for Kent night!

(10-03-2013 02:15 PM)golf4501 Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 11:54 AM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 11:51 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  The stats from 2012 show Archer had only 15 yards on 12 carries

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/footbal...l#boxscore

That doesn't seem quite right. Was he he injured for that game or did our D contain him that well?

That seems close. They had numerous TFLs on him. He really only had a 15 yd gain on the ground, which IMO was a hold.

They said he had an ankle sprain, but he looked fine. He broke one pass play with a great catch for like 60 yards. He was contained all game.

Damn I can still see that blatant hold on that play as well. Part of the lets throw no flags for Kent night!

I have gone to and watched a lot of football games in my time. I have never seen a game where one team got no penalties - throughout the game and 2 OTs. The fix was so blatant that, in retrospect and considering that we won, all you can do is laugh.

(10-03-2013 02:00 PM)Huskie359 Wrote:  We did refuse to kick to him, and KSU's field position was absolutely ridiculous. First choice, kick it out the end zone, but do not kick it to 30 or 35 to avoid him.

I totally agree. It's the football equivalent of the intentional walk. The Huskies essentially gave up a TD in piecemeal in trying to avoid giving one up on a long kick return. They tried the same thing against Toledo.

I hope Carey does not keep that part of the Doeren strategy. At the very least, it shows we are intimidated and that's a sign of weakness. Kick away! Even if Dri Archer does take it to the house, Lynch and Co. will just come right back out vs an unrested KSU defense to restore the point spread.

You guys are nuts. Kent State had less than 100 yards thru 3 quarters. Kick away from Archer all game. Make their offense beat you.

(10-03-2013 02:15 PM)golf4501 Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 11:54 AM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 11:51 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  The stats from 2012 show Archer had only 15 yards on 12 carries

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/footbal...l#boxscore

That doesn't seem quite right. Was he he injured for that game or did our D contain him that well?

That seems close. They had numerous TFLs on him. He really only had a 15 yd gain on the ground, which IMO was a hold.

They said he had an ankle sprain, but he looked fine. He broke one pass play with a great catch for like 60 yards. He was contained all game.

Damn I can still see that blatant hold on that play as well. Part of the lets throw no flags for Kent night!

https://www.google.com/search?q=dri+arch...B563%3B375
I mean this isn't a hold or anything. BTW, Kent fans refuse to acknowledge any luck and that game and said NIU fans made excuses for the double OT.

(10-03-2013 03:42 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 02:15 PM)golf4501 Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 11:54 AM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 11:51 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  The stats from 2012 show Archer had only 15 yards on 12 carries

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/footbal...l#boxscore

That doesn't seem quite right. Was he he injured for that game or did our D contain him that well?

That seems close. They had numerous TFLs on him. He really only had a 15 yd gain on the ground, which IMO was a hold.

They said he had an ankle sprain, but he looked fine. He broke one pass play with a great catch for like 60 yards. He was contained all game.

Damn I can still see that blatant hold on that play as well. Part of the lets throw no flags for Kent night!

https://www.google.com/search?q=dri+arch...B563%3B375
I mean this isn't a hold or anything. BTW, Kent fans refuse to acknowledge any luck and that game and said NIU fans made excuses for the double OT.

People in my area were yelling at the refs all night. We could not believe the non-calls. KSU could have used a gun during the game and nothing would have happened. Those ref bass turds and their MAC bosses should have all been indicted.

(10-03-2013 02:00 PM)Huskie359 Wrote:  We did refuse to kick to him, and KSU's field position was absolutely ridiculous. First choice, kick it out the end zone, but do not kick it to 30 or 35 to avoid him.

This should not be an issue this game as Wedel as been booming kick-offs into the end zone more than we've had a guy do in years.

He's been awesome!

(10-03-2013 03:47 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 03:42 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 02:15 PM)golf4501 Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 11:54 AM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 11:51 AM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  The stats from 2012 show Archer had only 15 yards on 12 carries

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/footbal...l#boxscore

That doesn't seem quite right. Was he he injured for that game or did our D contain him that well?

That seems close. They had numerous TFLs on him. He really only had a 15 yd gain on the ground, which IMO was a hold.

They said he had an ankle sprain, but he looked fine. He broke one pass play with a great catch for like 60 yards. He was contained all game.

Damn I can still see that blatant hold on that play as well. Part of the lets throw no flags for Kent night!

https://www.google.com/search?q=dri+arch...B563%3B375
I mean this isn't a hold or anything. BTW, Kent fans refuse to acknowledge any luck and that game and said NIU fans made excuses for the double OT.

People in my area were yelling at the refs all night. We could not believe the non-calls. KSU could have used a gun during the game and nothing would have happened. Those ref bass turds and their MAC bosses should have all been indicted.

I guess I'm dumb. Please explain the reason for the conspiracy and the participants involved. You're assuming the refs were paid off or something I guess. Who initiated contact with them to perpetuate this conspiracy? Why hasn't it been brought forward to the public yet? Why haven't the appropriate people been reprimanded?

(10-03-2013 03:36 PM)Huskie_Jon Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 02:00 PM)Huskie359 Wrote:  We did refuse to kick to him, and KSU's field position was absolutely ridiculous. First choice, kick it out the end zone, but do not kick it to 30 or 35 to avoid him.

I totally agree. It's the football equivalent of the intentional walk. The Huskies essentially gave up a TD in piecemeal in trying to avoid giving one up on a long kick return. They tried the same thing against Toledo.

I hope Carey does not keep that part of the Doeren strategy. At the very least, it shows we are intimidated and that's a sign of weakness. Kick away! Even if Dri Archer does take it to the house, Lynch and Co. will just come right back out vs an unrested KSU defense to restore the point spread.

Who cares? No one looks at a team that's kicking away from a player and thinks 'they're intimidated. They're a weak team'.

(10-03-2013 08:25 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 03:47 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 03:42 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 02:15 PM)golf4501 Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 11:54 AM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  That seems close. They had numerous TFLs on him. He really only had a 15 yd gain on the ground, which IMO was a hold.

They said he had an ankle sprain, but he looked fine. He broke one pass play with a great catch for like 60 yards. He was contained all game.

Damn I can still see that blatant hold on that play as well. Part of the lets throw no flags for Kent night!

https://www.google.com/search?q=dri+arch...B563%3B375
I mean this isn't a hold or anything. BTW, Kent fans refuse to acknowledge any luck and that game and said NIU fans made excuses for the double OT.

People in my area were yelling at the refs all night. We could not believe the non-calls. KSU could have used a gun during the game and nothing would have happened. Those ref bass turds and their MAC bosses should have all been indicted.

I guess I'm dumb. Please explain the reason for the conspiracy and the participants involved. You're assuming the refs were paid off or something I guess. Who initiated contact with them to perpetuate this conspiracy? Why hasn't it been brought forward to the public yet? Why haven't the appropriate people been reprimanded?

How can a team not be called for penalties when they commit blatant infractions visible to everyone in the stadium and on TV? How can a college team play 6 quarters of intense football and not commit a penalty? Look at the penalty differential in the game. How can a conference fawn over one team and promote its chances for the OB while ignoring the other team and ITS chances if they win the game? When we won the game, it was like the air was let out of the balloon. It is difficult to prove a conspiracy, but had we lost the game and if I were NIU's AD, you can be damn sure I would have filed a complaint and requested an investigation.

(10-03-2013 09:58 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 08:25 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 03:47 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 03:42 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 02:15 PM)golf4501 Wrote:  Damn I can still see that blatant hold on that play as well. Part of the lets throw no flags for Kent night!

https://www.google.com/search?q=dri+arch...B563%3B375
I mean this isn't a hold or anything. BTW, Kent fans refuse to acknowledge any luck and that game and said NIU fans made excuses for the double OT.

People in my area were yelling at the refs all night. We could not believe the non-calls. KSU could have used a gun during the game and nothing would have happened. Those ref bass turds and their MAC bosses should have all been indicted.

I guess I'm dumb. Please explain the reason for the conspiracy and the participants involved. You're assuming the refs were paid off or something I guess. Who initiated contact with them to perpetuate this conspiracy? Why hasn't it been brought forward to the public yet? Why haven't the appropriate people been reprimanded?

How can a team not be called for penalties when they commit blatant infractions visible to everyone in the stadium and on TV? How can a college team play 6 quarters of intense football and not commit a penalty? Look at the penalty differential in the game. How can a conference fawn over one team and promote its chances for the OB while ignoring the other team and ITS chances if they win the game? When we won the game, it was like the air was let out of the balloon. It is difficult to prove a conspiracy, but had we lost the game and if I were NIU's AD, you can be damn sure I would have filed a complaint and requested an investigation.

Sorry, but that evidence is about as strong as 9/11 being an inside job and the moon landing being faked. You're not addressing the who, what and why of it.

I guess I missed those "blatant infractions" and the MAC promoting and fawning Kent State.

(10-04-2013 06:43 AM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 09:58 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 08:25 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 03:47 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 03:42 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  https://www.google.com/search?q=dri+arch...B563%3B375
I mean this isn't a hold or anything. BTW, Kent fans refuse to acknowledge any luck and that game and said NIU fans made excuses for the double OT.

People in my area were yelling at the refs all night. We could not believe the non-calls. KSU could have used a gun during the game and nothing would have happened. Those ref bass turds and their MAC bosses should have all been indicted.

I guess I'm dumb. Please explain the reason for the conspiracy and the participants involved. You're assuming the refs were paid off or something I guess. Who initiated contact with them to perpetuate this conspiracy? Why hasn't it been brought forward to the public yet? Why haven't the appropriate people been reprimanded?

How can a team not be called for penalties when they commit blatant infractions visible to everyone in the stadium and on TV? How can a college team play 6 quarters of intense football and not commit a penalty? Look at the penalty differential in the game. How can a conference fawn over one team and promote its chances for the OB while ignoring the other team and ITS chances if they win the game? When we won the game, it was like the air was let out of the balloon. It is difficult to prove a conspiracy, but had we lost the game and if I were NIU's AD, you can be damn sure I would have filed a complaint and requested an investigation.

Sorry, but that evidence is about as strong as 9/11 being an inside job and the moon landing being faked. You're not addressing the who, what and why of it.

I guess I missed those "blatant infractions" and the MAC promoting and fawning Kent State.

Yeah, I guess you did.

(10-04-2013 07:52 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(10-04-2013 06:43 AM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 09:58 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 08:25 PM)niubrad00 Wrote:  

(10-03-2013 03:47 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  People in my area were yelling at the refs all night. We could not believe the non-calls. KSU could have used a gun during the game and nothing would have happened. Those ref bass turds and their MAC bosses should have all been indicted.

I guess I'm dumb. Please explain the reason for the conspiracy and the participants involved. You're assuming the refs were paid off or something I guess. Who initiated contact with them to perpetuate this conspiracy? Why hasn't it been brought forward to the public yet? Why haven't the appropriate people been reprimanded?

How can a team not be called for penalties when they commit blatant infractions visible to everyone in the stadium and on TV? How can a college team play 6 quarters of intense football and not commit a penalty? Look at the penalty differential in the game. How can a conference fawn over one team and promote its chances for the OB while ignoring the other team and ITS chances if they win the game? When we won the game, it was like the air was let out of the balloon. It is difficult to prove a conspiracy, but had we lost the game and if I were NIU's AD, you can be damn sure I would have filed a complaint and requested an investigation.

Sorry, but that evidence is about as strong as 9/11 being an inside job and the moon landing being faked. You're not addressing the who, what and why of it.

I guess I missed those "blatant infractions" and the MAC promoting and fawning Kent State.

Yeah, I guess you did.

I did not notice the MAC favoring Kent, but the ESPN commentators sure were. They were talking up how Kent had only lost one game, and how they beat a BCS team, and that could possibly put them in the Orange Bowl, while ignoring how the same could be said of the Huskies.

It was probably similar to something that happened a few years ago (maybe 2008 or 2009, I forget) in the Big East. Last game of the year for #2 ranked, one-loss West Virginia at home against Pittsburgh. With a win, they were most likely in the BCS championship game. The refs did everything in their power to try and help WVU, calling phantom penalties on Pitt and whenever possible, ignoring WVU infractions. In the end, Pitt still won the game, but to everyone, it was blatently obvious there were some "suggestions" given to the refs by the conference office. Things like that are very difficult to prove so I don't think anything was done, but I'm sure it happens many times, including in the MACC last year. Another reason why I think officials should be determined at an NCAA level instead of by conference.

(10-04-2013 07:07 PM)wjfoulks Wrote:  It was probably similar to something that happened a few years ago (maybe 2008 or 2009, I forget) in the Big East. Last game of the year for #2 ranked, one-loss West Virginia at home against Pittsburgh. With a win, they were most likely in the BCS championship game. The refs did everything in their power to try and help WVU, calling phantom penalties on Pitt and whenever possible, ignoring WVU infractions. In the end, Pitt still won the game, but to everyone, it was blatently obvious there were some "suggestions" given to the refs by the conference office. Things like that are very difficult to prove so I don't think anything was done, but I'm sure it happens many times, including in the MACC last year. Another reason why I think officials should be determined at an NCAA level instead of by conference.

Well, if you say it here on a message board, it must be true.

Show one shred of credible evidence that even remotely validates your theory. You can't.

Referee conspiracy theories are funny.